JK Reviews: Oldboy

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Julianking93

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Revenge is quite an interesting theme in movies and one that is difficult to handle. Despite its simplicity, in the wrong hands, these themes just seem cliche and reused and often times, they are. Unfortunately, it is very seldom seen done well with any true originality. Then comes something like Oldboy and it completely obliterates the bar of standards for not only revenge themed films, but for cinema in general.



[HEADING=1]15 Years of Imprisonment.... 5 Days of Vengeance[/HEADING]​


Loosely based on the manga of the same name, Oldboy is the second movie in director Park Chan-Wook's Vengeance trilogy. Like its predecessor, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Oldboy continues the tradition of Wook's style of film making and, in the very basic description, means it is full of heavily violent or outright disturbing imagery.

Oldboy follows the story of Oh Dea-Su (Choi Min-Sik), a seemingly average Korean business man with a bit of a drinking problem. We first meet Dea-su in a police station as he sits waiting to pass bail while going on and on in a drunken and hysterical fit. All this occurs on his daughter's birthday. After being bailed out by his friend, Joo-Hwann, Dae-su attempts to call his daughter, only to mysteriously vanish in the one instant Joo-Hwann takes his eyes off him.

Oh Dae-su has been kidnapped and for no apparent reason. He is locked in a small cell resembling a shabby apartment which only consists of a TV, a bed, a desk and a small slot in the heavily fortified door in which to give him food. He is never spoken to throughout his imprisonment. Never sees another human being. He's only kept slightly sane by imaginary combat training and writing long journals describing the horrible things he's done he's done to people over the coarse of his lifetime.

This goes on for 15 long years and just as quickly as he was kidnapped, Oh Dae-Su is released back into the outside world equipped with expensive clothes, a new haircut, a cellphone and given the objective to find out who his captor is and why he was imprisoned within a 5 day time limit.


Oh Dae-Su's first encounter with another human wasn't particularly pleasant
So describes the central plot of Oldboy, but in no way summarizes the movie as a whole. What was just described all takes place within the first 10 minutes of the film. From there, it proceeds on a dark and grizzly road of pure vengeance and rage as Oh Dae Su goes on a hunt for the people responsible.



From the very moment the film begins, you can feel the humanity that resides in Dae-Su. He's not a bad person in the least. Merely an average man with a seemingly average life. However, from the moment he's imprisoned, his humanity is slowly drained along with his sanity. Once he is released from his prison, what was left of him is gone. He has become a monster and as he himself put it "The old Dae Su is dead and never coming back"


While it would be foolish for me to attempt to describe the plot of the film further, and as to avoid unnecessary spoilers, I will refrain from doing so, but the film's story itself is unlike any other. Even comparing it to the very manga it is based upon wouldn't be accurate as they follow two completely different styles of story telling. Park Chan-Wook has made a near masterpiece when it comes to pure storytelling and in terms of writing.


The acting is something to be heavily praised as well. Credit obviously will go to all the actors themselves as no part is played poorly, however particular mention must be made to Choi Min-Sik's portrayal of the main character. Going to the lengths he did to prepare for the role itself and even going so far as to eat a live squid is something to be commended over, especially considering he's a practicing Buddhist.


While the acting and script writing is something to be mentioned, other things that I normally wouldn't particularly notice in any other film stand out and make it shine on it's own. Different aspects such as the brilliant musical score and even the colouring of the film itself bring a certain life to the movie when it all comes together in a way I've yet to see redone. Even the cinematography is something to be praised. The visual effect given adds a perfect tone and the camera work is done phenomenally by Chung-hoon Chung. This results in what is possibly the greatest fight scene in the past decade.

Which brings me to a little fact I mentioned earlier, the film itself is violent. Very violent. It takes brutal violence to a new extreme by making it all feel real. There is no excess gore. There's not really much gore to be had throughout but this is something which Asian cinema seems to have perfected. It's not what you see, it's what you don't see. That's what makes these scenes so great. They're never done for shock value either. They're presented as a whole. It perfectly shows what Oh's imprisonment has done to his psyche. He is no longer a man. He is now almost completely devoid of emotion. This is made more evident by the "squid" scene mentioned prior.


"Hammer Goes Where?"

Though, of course, no movie is perfect and Oldboy isn't without it's flaws here and there even though they are all very minor. While I praise things like writing and acting, there are certain moments in the film that don't seem to fit with the basic feel of the rest. In particular, there is a scene towards the end of the film that shows Oh Dae-Su in a completely different light. For the entirety of the film, he is shown as a merciless shell of what was once a man, then at the last scene, he is shown cowering and pleading at the foot of his enemy. While this is merely a personal gripe towards the choice to present the main character in this way, it's still something that got under my skin a bit.

A quick thing to note, however is that the movie itself isn't extremely accessible to those not used to the more eccentric side of cinema. Those familiar with Chan-Wook's previous work, and really any Asian films in general, will notice the high amount of accessibility for a film like this, however to more mainstream audiences, this will be an adventure into unknown, and perhaps frightening, territory. While not quite on par with something as wild and erratic as something like David Lynch's work, it certainly isn't a movie casual film goers will appreciate.


Though, despite my mixed feelings towards the ending, I can't say that there's really much else to nitpick at. The ending itself is what has garnered most of the hype surrounding the movie. It's highly improbable but not impossible and that's the beauty of it. It catches you off guard and no form of media has ever left the same impact on me as this has. Oldboy is a film that ventures into the realms of emotional extremes in it's violence and graphic nature. While it at times seems a bit overdone, it's never without good reason. It's something no other piece of cinema has been able to repeat and this, unfortunately, will lead to the inevitable copy or remake of a near masterpiece of a film.

Let's just pray to every deity known to man that this [http://movieodyssey.com/files/2009/06/movie-odyssey-presents-oldboy-copy.jpg] doesn't actually happen...




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Zeromaxx

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You've got a top notch review there, I like the style it's somehow succinct and wordy at the same time. I've never seen this movie, but after reading your review (as well as seeing how highly everyone speaks of it around the forum) I'm considering hunting down a copy.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Nicely done. Well written and informative.

This is one of my all time favorite movies, I was hooked right from the first ten seconds.

I disagree with your point about the grovelling scene however! In my mind the events previous to that were a good justification for him to return to his old, pathetic self.
 

BlueInkAlchemist

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I was really afraid Netflix's Instant Queue was going to deprive me of this film. It's here to stay, however, and currently second in the running for this week's poll.

Great review, JK. I'm even more eager to check this out.
 

Sven und EIN HUND

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Superb review, very well written. I must disagree with you about the grovelling scene though. Personally, I think it's an important turn for Dae-su and an excellent method of contrast that perhaps devalues physical power and menace in favour of providing his character with increased emotional depth. Perhaps it suggests that however changed his character has become, he could immediately return to the state of his mind in his past-life given the necessary provocation, and that might be the director making a profound comment on humanity. Still though, excellent review and I agree on pretty much every other ground, keep 'em coming.
 

Julianking93

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AgDr_ODST said:
would you be willing to review Let Me In give your opinions on it?
I was going to....but then Marter reviewed and said almost exactly what I was going to say about it, so having two reviews saying the same thing with almost no contrast between one another doesn't really make sense :p
AbsoluteVirtue18 said:
angry snippy
Well, I got this off of Amazon for about 5 bucks (and the movie is definitely worth that) so it's not that expensive.
BlueInkAlchemist said:
Great review, JK. I'm even more eager to check this out.
I think this is the first time you've responded to one of my reviews. Coming from you though, that's an honour. Thank you! ^-^
Sven und EIN HUND said:
I can see that and while I've heard plenty of arguments defending his reaction towards the end (seriously, how the fuck would you react to that?) it seems I may be a minority....but still, to me, it was just such a sudden change of character, that it seemed almost a little over the top. Then again, that very well could have been what they were going for.
FargoDog said:
That's the point though. It's violent and brutal without even having to show anything. The teeth pulling scene isn't gory in the least, but it leaves your imagination to come up with what else might be happening. All that you're left with is an image of the guy after with a bloodied cloth in his mouth.

It's like what the guy who
was about to rip out Oh's teeth said. You know the part I'm talking about :p
 

Julianking93

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FargoDog said:
What I meant was I felt those scenes weren't overly brutal because of the style they were presented in, with that classical music playing in the background and the sort of dark humour that's laid over the top of the whole scene, because the film (at that point) clearly wants to paint Oh Dae Sue as more of a hero than a monster. For example, the scene in SFMV where..

the guy hooks the girl up the car battery to her ears

was more what I would define as 'brutal', as it's very stark and grim, with no emphasis put on who is morally right in the situation, while in Oldboy the music and the presentation of Oh Dae Sue at that point in the movie took away some of the more 'brutal' aspects, at least for me. I can totally see where you're coming from though, and don't consider what I'm saying as a complaint against the movie.
I can understand that. Though, Oldboy was the first in the series I watched and I had never seen something by Wook before, so that style of film making was all new to me and I didn't really pick up on the dark humour of it all. Though, after a second viewing, yes I could see the comedic bits, but only because I was more accustomed to Wook's styles.

However, if you want a movie that's brutal yet filled with dark humour, go watch Thirst, which I will be reviewing next! ^-^
 

Snork Maiden

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Class review of a class film. Have to throw my hat to the side of liking the groveling

- Woo-jin's aim was to completely destroy who Oh Dae-su was, and at the end his plan comes to fruition and he succeeds. What's left of Oh Dae-su is finally flattened, and we're left with someone truly broken. The fact that Woo-Jin kills himself straight after only compounds this - he has won, Oh Dae-su has been brought to his level, and nothing Oh Dae-su (even with his trusty hammer) can do can change this.

Don't want to get into what's more or less brutal, but to me that final scene was incredibly powerful. The hero has lost, the man we've been cheering on has been crushed. Leading on from that, I thought the final hypnosis scene soured this somewhat - it brought on some interesting questions (what would you do in his situation?), but ultimately I thought it diluted the final scene. Oh Dae-Su lost his tongue, but other than that he finds redemption of a sort; his ordeal is lessened, the last scene is weakened.

Incidentally, what did you think of Lady Vengeance? I've started watching it about 4 or 5 times, but always end up turning off at the exact same point. Granted I've either been less than sober or utterly exhausted, but I generally found the start of the film fairly slow and it seems like a bit of an ordeal to watch from the beginning *again*.

Also obviously Will Smith would obviously improve the film. Obviously.
 

Julianking93

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Snork Maiden said:
I understand your point completely and like what I said before, when you put it that way, it does make sense.

However, my gripes with the scene weren't so much with what he was doing, rather how he was doing it. I felt it was overplayed and overdone though, I guess only the actor or the director can be blamed for that.
When Dae-Su started licking Woo-jin's shoes, I couldn't help but giggle to myself a bit considering how ridiculous it was. Yes, after watching it again, I can see how we're meant to feel as if, even though he killed himself, Woo jin has ultimately won in his quest to build up Dae-Su into a heartless monster, only to bring him back down to the pathetic excuse for a man he once was

Still, my main frustration with the scene has more to do with the acting or the choice of actions used to portray it rather than the theme or emotion of what was really going on.

As for Lady Vengeance, I've yet to see it. I've seen Mr. Vengeance but not Lady and I've yet to even purchase it. I've heard it was the weakest of all of Wook's movies, so I guess that's why I'm putting it off. Though, Thirst is the most recent film of his I watched and I will be reviewing that soon as it was a particularly fantastic film.

And yes, Will Smith would makes this such a wonderful movie. /sarcasm

But....they are making that with Will Smith....and Steven Spielberg as Director...
 

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Quite a good review Mr. Julian. I noticed one grammar mistake, but that's really it.

Anyway, this film is still on my 'to-buy' list. Still gotta track it down!
 

zombiesinc

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A very enjoyable review! Putting aside the fact that this is one of my absolute favourite films, your review made we want to watch it, again. Ultimately, I think that should be the goal. Not necesarily to watch the film, but to give an informed, organized, and objectionable enough review to help the reader decide whether they should attend or avoid a movie (or read a book, or listen to an album, etc).

Honestly, I think I'm going to sit down tomorrow night and watch it. The beauty of discussing a film, or reading another person's review of one is that it allows you to hopefully see the film in a different light. If not that, it enables you to recognize things previously missed, or appreciate things you may not have realized were so significant.

I had heard that this was part of the Vengeance trilogy and I actually have the other two films already, so it's good to be reminded of that. I'm in for some movie watching this weekend! Thanks.

Also, I look forward to reading more reviews. :)
 

Eagle Est1986

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This is probably my favourite movie of all time. You've just shamed me by reminding me that I don't actually own it.
 

Julianking93

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Sinclose said:
Beautiful review. I love that movie to death, but I'm still hunting down the other installments of The Vengeance trilogy...
Please do so! The movies are fantastic, as are most of Wook's movies. Though, having rewatched Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance last night, I'll say that it definitely has the most emotional scenes to it. Even more so than Oldboy. But, I will say to be a bit cautious with Lady Vengeance. It's not that it's bad, it's just....not as good.

Other than that, would be nice if the stars in the rating thing were a bit more customized. Like a 5/5 rating should deserve golden stars, or something like that. As it stands I had to count the stars to know the rating, and I'm assuming it's marked over 5 stars.
This is just a minor issue though, just saying a more visually striking score would be nice :p
Keep it up JK! ^_^
I had used gold stars for all my other reviews before and wanted to change things up a bit and I thought the red and black would go well with a movie of this type :p
 

Yureina

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Pretty good review here Julian!

That movie sounds like it has a very similar plot to the book/film The Count of Monte Cristo. Actually it sounds like they match up quite alot except for their settings and a few other elements. If you liked this, you may want to look into that book and possibly its most recent film adaptation.

As for the review itself, it's pretty good, but there were a few moments where it did not flow as well as it could have. You may want to do a little more proofreading just to make sure that everything is as good as it can be. Still, its a good review overall. :)

- Rei
 

Julianking93

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Yureina said:
Pretty good review here Julian!

That movie sounds like it has a very similar plot to the book/film The Count of Monte Cristo. Actually it sounds like they match up quite alot except for their settings and a few other elements. If you liked this, you may want to look into that book and possibly its most recent film adaptation.

As for the review itself, it's pretty good, but there were a few moments where it did not flow as well as it could have. You may want to do a little more proofreading just to make sure that everything is as good as it can be. Still, its a good review overall. :)

- Rei
Thanks for the constructive criticism, though I must ask, what part in particular didn't flow very well?
 

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Julian, I have to say, I think this is one of your best reviews so far. It's a really good read and nice and informative. I shall add this to my ever-growing pile of stuff I need to buy/watch. ...I really need to stop reading your reviews, they hurt my wallet! XD

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