Joining the glorious PC Master Race

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

yahtzee invented it? haha woahhh there, giving the guy way too much credit.

The "Glorious PC master race and dirty console peasants" meme originates in Yahtzee's review of The Witcher.

[link]http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-glorious-pc-gaming-master-race[/link]

I'm honestly shocked, I swear I had heard it used multiple times before 08, in high school fanboyism was at its worst when the 360 and ps3 first came out and I had 2 pc friends who swore by their towers pc would always be better. The conversations were hilarious to watch so I didn't mind at the time.

But I'll concede that point, your factual proof is greater than my subjective memories at this point.

 

[The Lunatic]

Regardless of what bitter console plebs bring up, welcome to the master race.

Remember, one must have patience and a sense of humour when dealing with lower races.

In terms of a controller.

Well, you're on a PC, given ultimate flexibility, you can use literally whatever you want as an input, you're not limited to what Microsoft or Sony can afford to sell you.

For wireless. Look into Bluetooth technology, a lot of motherboard have this by default, and if not, a USB dongle (hehe) can be purchased for a few dollars.

PS3 controller supports Bluetooth and thus can be connected right off the bat, and configured to function as if it were an Xbox device and thus have automatic support on games.

Xbox controllers, plug them right in, they'll be detected and work straight away.

Beyond that, want to use a steering wheel for your FPS? Go right ahead, just configure the specific inputs to whatever keys you want on the keyboard.

Want to control the game with your mind?

Look into Emotiv!

http://emotiv.com/

Want to move your head around and have your character's view change accordingly?

Look into TrackIR

https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/

Ultimate in one-handed gaming? Look into modding a 3D Mouse to do your bidding!

http://www.3dconnexion.co.uk/


The possibilities, really are quite endless! And there's nothing beyond a little bit of effort to stop you from doing any of it.

 

[Vigormortis]

Any tips, brands, pitfalls?

The beauty of PC gaming is, as long as you're willing to put in the effort, you can do just about anything.

So my advice is: pick the controllers you're comfortable and most familiar with and use those. Odds are that there's already official drivers or community work-arounds that will enable you to use that controller on your PC.

yahtzee invented it? haha woahhh there, giving the guy way too much credit.

While I agree with much of the rest of your post, the thing is....Yahtzee did actually coin the term; in so far as the meme is concerned.

 

[Exhuminator]

Do you know why everyone recommends getting a 360 controller for your PC? Because you're mostly going to be playing console ports on it. Most PC gamers are still console gamers, just playing with higher resolutions and better frame rates. Despite what they tell themselves, they're still playing gussied up hand me downs.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

yahtzee invented it? haha woahhh there, giving the guy way too much credit.

While I agree with much of the rest of your post, the thing is....Yahtzee did actually coin the term; in so far as the meme is concerned.

yeah I didn't edit my original post but someone did notify me of this, I'm still surprised, it honestly feels like I heard the term way before then, but then again what do I subjectively know. (and I hadn't even heard of Yahtzee until the end of 09', so it's not like I could have picked it up from him subconsciously.)

 

[Vigormortis]

yeah I didn't edit my original post but someone did notify me of this, I'm still surprised, it honestly feels like I heard the term way before then, but then again what do I subjectively know. (and I hadn't even heard of Yahtzee until the end of 09', so it's not like I could have picked it up from him subconsciously.)

Sadly, I noticed that other post after I'd posted mine, so...

My B.

And to be fair, he coined the term roughly six years ago. Given how prevalent it's become; ironically, unironically, and even referentially outside it's original meaning; it's not hard to see why one might forget or not be aware of it's origin.

 

[Vigormortis]

Do you know why everyone recommends getting a 360 controller for your PC? Because you're mostly going to be playing console ports on it. Most PC gamers are still console gamers, just playing with higher resolutions and better frame rates. Despite what they tell themselves, they're still playing gussied up hand me downs.

Most PC games are on windows. Windows is run by microsoft, who is known for their overzealous protectionism.

They try their hardest to make sure their stuff works on their platform and screw everyone else.

So the xbox controller is the only choice for windows because microsoft wants you to give it money. Same reason we are tethered by Direct X and internet explorer even though both of those things should be long obsolete.

Using a controller on PC on anything except platformers and quick time events is suicide. That is their only purpose.

If we went linux, we would have a much larger range of controller but we are stuck with microsoft.

If you want to use another option, you use xpadder or something similar. Which doesn't always work.

and console ports? The highest sellers on steam are mostly PC exclusives. Hell, the new releases section is still mostly PC exclusives.

TLDR: stop being jelly.

But...but...

It goes so well with my PB and bread.

 

[Vigormortis]

Do you know why everyone recommends getting a 360 controller for your PC? Because you're mostly going to be playing console ports on it. Most PC gamers are still console gamers, just playing with higher resolutions and better frame rates. Despite what they tell themselves, they're still playing gussied up hand me downs.

Minecraft, Terraria, FTL, just about every MMO ever, The Witcher, MechWarrior, Starcraft, Dota, League of Legends, Torchlight, Diablo, Hard Reset, Killing Floor, Painkiller, Payday, Amnesia, Homeworld, Company of Heroes, Outlast, Project Zomboid, Rust, DayZ, Hawken, Starbound, Sins of a Solar Empire, Civilization V, Freespace, and hundreds if thousands of other PC exclusives or PC originals that I dare not even attempt to list lest I go insane from monotony....would beg to differ, good sir.

And besides, the reasons people so often suggest a 360 controller are three-fold:

1: It's the only one that has any kind of built-in robust native driver support for Windows. (thanks Microsoft)![footnote]Said with an emphatic smile, two thumbs up, and not a HINT of sarcasm. Nope. No sarcasm at all...[/footnote]

2: It's one of the few "standard" controllers that people are familiar with; especially if they're coming from gaming on consoles.

3: A lot of people aren't even aware of the vast array of other controller options available on PC.

But please, continue to condescend to PC gamers as if you know what the hell you're talking about. It makes you seem so very mature.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Welcome to another side of gaming where you can do no wrong I suppose?, I mean from what I've seen near the end of page 1 and the rest of this page, there is nothing that can ever go wrong and that the gamer can do wrong in PC gaming, I'll likely be proven right in either a few minutes and hours with the usual reply from someone on here.

Cannot see this thread ever talking down another side, no sir not at all.

 

[The Lunatic]

Welcome to another side of gaming where you can do no wrong I suppose?, I mean from what I've seen near the end of page 1 and the rest of this page, there is nothing that can ever go wrong and that the gamer can do wrong in PC gaming, I'll likely be proven right in either a few minutes and hours with the usual reply from someone on here.

Cannot see this thread ever talking down another side, no sir not at all.

Nothing can ever go wrong that can't be fixed.

Hardware breaks? Nothing new, happens to every form of hardware, at least now you don't have to buy a whole new console to replace the broken part.

Software issues? Not had these in a while, but, usually it's something simple, and easily solved, worst case, the internet has a massive and open community, and you can just ask people.

Last issue I had was with some indie game, to fix it, all I had to do was close a graphics card monitoring program.

PC Gaming has its issues, absolutely, but, the idea that it's somehow magnitudes more buggy than consoles? Pretty much complete bullshit.

Why do you seem to take issues with computer hardware? What's wrong with something being objectively better and people discussing it's objective advantages over another format?

And if you're so sure about PCs having some hidden downfall we're not mentioning, why don't you tell us?

What can a console do, that a PC absolutely can't do better or has no equal to?

 

[Exhuminator]

as if you know what the hell you're talking about. It makes you seem so very mature.

Says the guy who devolves into ad hominem tactics.

Console and PC gaming are equal for different reasons. Neither is more glorious or masterful then the other. To believe otherwise is purely elitist and toxic. This comes from a guy who owns three gaming PCs and lots of various consoles, and has been gaming since 1983, so yeah I have a clue buddy.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Given how prevalent it's become; ironically, unironically, and even referentially outside it's original meaning; it's not hard to see why one might forget or not be aware of it's origin.

I think this is the crux of my memory fogginess, the damn phrase is used in so many different ways (thank god most of the time it's used ironically as a joke.) that it's just implanted everywhere in my brain like a sleeper agent

*twitches*

MUST.KILL.CONSOLE.PEASANTS.

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Welcome to another side of gaming where you can do no wrong I suppose?, I mean from what I've seen near the end of page 1 and the rest of this page, there is nothing that can ever go wrong and that the gamer can do no wrong in PC gaming

fixed, pretty sure you meant to put the no in there.

I'll likely be proven right in either a few minutes and hours with the usual reply from someone on here.

Master PC gamer chief, reporting for duty at 1006 hours. *Salutes*

Cannot see this thread ever talking down another side, no sir not at all.

what other side? he was making a light hearted joke and was simply asking advice on what kind of controllers to get for a pc so he doesn't misspend money on something that won't work well. What other side could you possibly referring to?

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

The peasant pad is the best for PC (bet master race are really hoping that valve pad isnt crap, that or it will just be a 360 pad knockoff). Now all you have to do is beg for console games now like GT5 or whatever. Hee hee. I kid, a little bit anyway. 360 pad is the best for PC. Apart from Steam, also sign up with GOG for your non-DRM gaming needs, and some nice freebies every now and then plus classics. Also they sell for cheaper than Steam, so i like them for that.

 

[Vigormortis]

Says the guy who devolves into ad hominem tactics.

Says the guy that doesn't actually quote me, thus not alerting me to your new post.

Ad hominem? Please. That's the cry of someone who has no counter-point to the argument against their claims.

I refuted your assertion. So unless you only bothered to read the end of my post, your "devolves into ad hominem tactics" claim is ridiculous.

Console and PC gaming are equal for different reasons. Neither is more glorious or masterful then the other. To believe otherwise is purely elitist and toxic. This comes from a guy who owns three gaming PCs and lots of various consoles, and has been gaming since 1983, so yeah I have a clue buddy.

Well, "buddy", I never said one was better than the other. I game on PC and consoles and hold no person to their platform of choice. You're putting words into my mouth.

In fact, all I did was point out how utterly and objectively wrong your original assertions were. Something you've yet to counter-argue.

So...care to share with the class why we should accept your original claims at all or are you going to just keep changing the topic and presenting strawman arguments?

 

[Exhuminator]

There's no point in being histrionic about the history of PC gaming, I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about modern times and the way things are now.

My point is simple. The majority of folks who are new to PC gaming, are actually mainly playing console ports on their PC. That's why they need a 360 pad, instead of a mouse & keyboard. Most people are treating their PCs as souped up console game players. They're mainly playing console ports with better frame rates and higher resolution. That's not my opinion, that's pure fact based on sales of PC games for the past many years.

If you play AAA PC games, it's most likely they are ports. Look at how many of those have console versions. Now look at when the console versions were released, it's before the PC version was. That's because the PC version is the port. Ask yourself how many of the indie PC games you're playing are also available on XBLA, PSN, or eShop. Then look and see when said indies were released on those online stores, it's most likely before they ported to PC.

Right now the biggest selling PC game is Titanfall. The game is also on Xbox One (and 360...). Funny how the biggest selling PC game is also on console. Then again, that's been the case for years. The number one selling PC game is almost always a port of the number one selling console game. Don't think so? Right now the number one most requested PC game is Dark Souls II, which is a console game, factually.

I'm not saying consoles are better than PC. But I am saying the vast majority of "master race" PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them. Because according to sales data, most PC gamers are actually playing the same games the console gamers are, just turbocharged and belated.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

But I am saying the vast majority of "master race" PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them.

you do realize how many people have already pointed out that is entirely a joke, right? there isn't some critical divide where you must be one or the other either, I would argue many if not the majority of people who game on pc also have a console or two or more, so splitting sides there is silly.

Because according to sales data, most PC gamers are actually playing the same games the console gamers are, just turbocharged and belated.

...isn't that what most people argue in favor of pc for? I mean right there in itself is a positive for the pc, if you can mod a game to holy hell and back with whatever you please, and the "same games" are on both platforms, how is that in any possible way a negative to the pc?

 

[DrOswald]

There's no point in being histrionic about the history of PC gaming, I'm not talking about history. I'm talking about modern times and the way things are now.

My point is simple. The majority of folks who are new to PC gaming, are actually mainly playing console ports on their PC. That's why they need a 360 pad, instead of a mouse & keyboard. Most people are treating their PCs as souped up console game players. They're mainly playing console ports with better frame rates and higher resolution. That's not my opinion, that's pure fact based on sales of PC games for the past many years.

If you play AAA PC games, it's most likely they are ports. Look at how many of those have console versions. Now look at when the console versions were released, it's before the PC version was. That's because the PC version is the port. Ask yourself how many of the indie PC games you're playing are also available on XBLA, PSN, or eShop. Then look and see when said indies were released on those online stores, it's most likely before they ported to PC.

Right now the biggest selling PC game is Titanfall. The game is also on Xbox One (and 360...). Funny how the biggest selling PC game is also on console. Then again, that's been the case for years. The number one selling PC game is almost always a port of the number one selling console game. Don't think so? Right now the number one most requested PC game is Dark Souls II, which is a console game, factually.

I'm not saying consoles are better than PC. But I am saying the vast majority of "master race" PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them. Because according to sales data, most PC gamers are actually playing the same games the console gamers are, just turbocharged and belated.

Here is the problem: Sales charts do not tell you the whole story. The strength of the PC platform is not in the AAA market, it is in the diversity of games available. Of course the sales charts are always going to be topped by AAA multiplatform games. But total up the 15:1 game ratio of the PC to any other platform and I guarantee that PC exclusives sell far more and far more time is spent on PC exclusives, if only because console games tend to be so expensive and short. I bet the time I have spent on Civ V last year alone would account for more time than all the console ports I played on PC last year.

 

[Vigormortis]

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Sales data? I wonder if you've even looked at any proper sales data since most of your assertions are just patently false. Absurdly false, even.

I'm also curious where you got the Titanfall sales data. I've actually looked and could find almost nothing concrete. So I have a hard time believing that it is the "best selling PC game right now". It may very well be, but even if it is, it's irrelevant. Titanfall started out as, and was coded as, a PC game first. It was ported to the consoles. Rendering your entire claim moot.

PC gamers are being amazingly hypocritical if they do really think console gamers are somehow beneath them

The only hypocrisy on display is you claiming that people in this thread have been poking fun at console players when you are the only one who's actually brought up the topic.

 

[Vault101]

My point is simple. The majority of folks who are new to PC gaming, are actually mainly playing console ports on their PC. That's why they need a 360 pad, instead of a mouse & keyboard.

unless its a special case like Dark Souls you don't need a controller for a port if youre more comfortable with M/K, I was fine with DMC and a K/M

 

[Kathinka]

controllers are fun and very viable for most third person games.
now should you dive into the vast pool of first person games, i'd recommend investing a few hours to learn how to use mouse and keyboard. not only will it greatly enhance your performance as a player, it also opens the door to games much too deep and full of possibilities to be played with a controller, like red orchestra 2, arma or insurgency. plus you won't ever be able to really compete with m+k players online.