Joining the glorious PC Master Race
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A lot of people suggest the 360 controller and from what I have gathered, in my experience, this is your best option.
If you have a PS3 controller however you can find software that easily tricks a game into thinking it's a 360 controller too.
Any option should work either way; personally I only use a controller for Dark Souls and racing games so I can't say whether or not controllers are generally compatible with a lot of games.
If you have a PS3 controller however you can find software that easily tricks a game into thinking it's a 360 controller too.
Any option should work either way; personally I only use a controller for Dark Souls and racing games so I can't say whether or not controllers are generally compatible with a lot of games.
Not meaning to be confrontational, but playing devils advocate.....
1) my last gaming PC was a b**** to get working. Software updates, hardware updates, it's often that I had to optimise the machine for the game. In consoles, the game has been already optimised for the machine.
2) viruses/malware. I know consoles could be hit by these too but I've had a ps3 for 7 years and not once have I ever had any kind of software/hardware problem. PC has SOMETHING wrong with it on a regular basis
3) price. A half decent PC to avoid what I said above? Probably £700-800. I've bought a PS4, PSVita and games on both for that.
And finally 4) exclusives. Last of us, god of war, infamous SS are some truly excellent games. Microsoft exclusives such as Halo, Left4Dead ad Gears of War have just not really compared.
Each to their own, but I've had less problems with my PS3, PS4 and PSVita combined in all the time I had them than I have in a couple of months with a PC.
1) my last gaming PC was a b**** to get working. Software updates, hardware updates, it's often that I had to optimise the machine for the game. In consoles, the game has been already optimised for the machine.
2) viruses/malware. I know consoles could be hit by these too but I've had a ps3 for 7 years and not once have I ever had any kind of software/hardware problem. PC has SOMETHING wrong with it on a regular basis
3) price. A half decent PC to avoid what I said above? Probably £700-800. I've bought a PS4, PSVita and games on both for that.
And finally 4) exclusives. Last of us, god of war, infamous SS are some truly excellent games. Microsoft exclusives such as Halo, Left4Dead ad Gears of War have just not really compared.
Each to their own, but I've had less problems with my PS3, PS4 and PSVita combined in all the time I had them than I have in a couple of months with a PC.
1) Laziness.Pheo1386 said:
2) Uncarefulness/Stupidity
3) Get a job..?
4) http://i.imgur.com/TCRFBGs.jpg
The problems come with being un experienced, why do you want to be a pleb and play on a console when you could actually try and understand the technology you are using, my guess is that you didn't even build your PC, you are one with your PC, you know what you put into it, you know what can go wrong, consoles are just this closed box that some manufacturer gave to you. Building your first PC is what makes you love PCs, I remember first time fucking around with my first PC, I broke a Pentium I processor, it was so expensive back then, but that's why I'm in IT today. You must understand the technology you are using to love it, you can never say that you built a console, so excuse me while I go sit on my golden chair of peasants bodies..
No but seriously, some times I too get the urge to just say fuck this and buy a console, but patience is the key I guess.
My latest was easy, but then it's like the 5th one I've built. Experience helps.Pheo1386 said:
This used to be more of a problem than it is now. Just get some good antivirus(for a free option I recommend Avast!) and something that limits websites from sending you malware, like a noscript plugin, or things which cannot be discussed on this forum.Pheo1386 said:
I haven't had a malware/virus problem in years. Much of it because I've plugged the infection vectors, so my antivirus doesn't even get much to do.
Well you could get a decent one cheaper, but that's what you'd expect for a somewhat future proof one that runs games on high/ultra settings that consoles can't even dream of. You can get a console-equivalent PC for a console-equivalent price(or possibly less), you'd just be stuck playing games on low settings, just like on consoles. Also due to game pricing, I could get 100 good games on the PC for the price of 10 games for the PS4/Vita. Suddenly the PC is looking more economical.Pheo1386 said:
Many more exclusives on PC, and cheaper games.Pheo1386 said:
Don't forget that consoles are built with budget components, PS3/4 might not have as much problems as the 360 did(47% hardware failure rate!) but even the PS3 and PS Vita both had a 10% failure rate, we don't have numbers for PS4 yet, as far as I'm aware. Consoles aren't free of hardware problems, but when they happen you can't fix them yourself, like you often can with PC(get replacement part), you're left with a bricked system, which is expensive to send in for repair unless you're still on warranty(PC parts have warranty too), it can often cost as much as just buying a used system.Pheo1386 said:
You're first point is just patently false. Especially in light of today's PC gaming platforms and the current state of console gaming. Notably: day one patches, stability patches, firmware updates, and consoles being bricked by a combination of bad hardware and poorly coded games.Pheo1386 said:
Sorry, but this is a user issue, not a platform issue.
If a user is idiotic enough to surf the web and/or download files haphazardly and without some amalgam of protection or self awareness then it's on them if their machine gets any malware.
And personally? I haven't had any issues with my PCs in regards to gaming, that weren't the result of something I did or something the dev screwed up, for near a decade. And the few times I have were similar situations to what's been happening on consoles.
I have never and will never understand this complaint...
This is still a fallacy. And, in the long run, PC gaming winds up being drastically cheaper than console gaming.
This is a matter o...wait. Hold on.
Huh-wha?
Anyway, this is a matter of taste, not quality or quantity. If anything PC has, and has had, far more exclusives than any given console. Especially in the last few years.
Quite frankly, if "exclusives" are your primary draw then consoles are the last platforms you want to turn to.
I get the disdain people have at the prospect of PC gaming, but much of their revulsion is based on misinformation and rhetoric. Some perpetuated by the community, some by the console makers.
I'm not saying PC gaming is for everyone. Not even remotely. But I think a lot of gamers miss out on the opportunity to try it just because they refuse to learn about it.
Go with the 360 controller. It works with damn near everything and it's a solid controller.
I'm sorry but that list makes me laugh every time I see it brought up. People think it proves that consoles are getting the short end of the stick for exclusives, but it says the exact opposite for me. There are so many good looking games on the console side of things, whereas I have to comb through the PC list to find something that even looks remotely decent to me. The PC side has so much stuff that looks like utter garbage. I always liken it to quality vs quantity, if you want mountains of bad-decent games, PC's got you covered, if you want fewer but better exclusives, consoles are the way to go.MetalDevil said:
I would suggest a dualshock 3 with betterDS3: http://betterds3.ciebiera.net/
Set up motioninjoy, run motioninjoy thru this software, use the default X-Input settings, and you get what amounts to a 360 pad with a better D-Pad.
Set up motioninjoy, run motioninjoy thru this software, use the default X-Input settings, and you get what amounts to a 360 pad with a better D-Pad.
Admittedly the PC average metacritic score is a hell of a lot higher than I would have guessed it to be. Yes, there are good PC exclusives. I would never dispute that. However, the ratio of garbage to good games is considerably higher than it is on consoles, because it's a lot easier to make games for the PC. If we reviewed and factored in all the free-to-play MMOs, really obscure indie titles, and low budget garbage that flies under the radar and either doesn't get a Metacritic score or not enough reviews for it to count, I would bet you that average would be a lot lower. If we look at all the games that come out on each platform (not just the ones that got reviewed), describing it as quantity vs quality isn't that unfair of an assessment in my book.The Lunatic said:Savo said:
What you've said is completely and utterly untrue.
I apologize if that came across as condescending to the PC platform, but I seriously am having trouble remembering the last time I was truly impressed with the PC lineup for a given year. I'm old enough to remember when the PC was the hottest place in town for exclusives (for me at least), but those days seem to be long gone, and I've gotten a bit jaded.
On another note, let me tell you what I see when I look at that chart I quoted. This is largely based in taste, but I'm seeing some damn fine exclusives across the board for the console side of things. The kind of games that people preorder and can't wait to play. There's AAA exclusives that, if nothing else, outspend the competition to the point that they're at least fun to play just to enjoy the production values.
I look over at the PC side and I see a lot of free-to-play games. I see a lot of MMOs, both free and paid. I see a lot of obscure indie titles that, although probably not that bad, I doubt I'll remember twenty minutes past the time I finish them. There's a bunch of strategy games, which is to be expected since they really only work on PC, which is cool, and we have some WRPGs. I'm not factoring in every single game that's represented, but you get the idea.
I love my PC. But, from where I'm sitting, the PC exclusive scene isn't all that great.
How often do us PC gamers get blockbuster can't miss AAA exclusives that light the gaming world on fire? Games like The Last of Us that have people crowing about them for months on end? We get some cool stuff like Day Z and the Witcher 2 (well, it was exclusive for a while anyway), but I basically have to keep a console just so I don't miss out on the awesome exclusives that won't come to PC. Like I said, a lot of it is taste. Maybe you love the PC exclusives, and that's perfectly fine. I don't particularly enjoy indie games, MMOs, or strategy games, so that's where I'm coming from.
its not hard to avoid if you have anti virus, dont go to dodgey sites and slick on dodgey shit...ot know what you are downloading...Pheo1386 said:
what the heck are you typing this on anyway? chances are THAT could get a virus
[quote/]Each to their own, but I've had less problems with my PS3, PS4 and PSVita combined in all the time I had them than I have in a couple of months with a PC.[/quote]
left 4 dead is not an exlcusive its on PC
After a while out of this thread, I return and it's still exactly the same as where I left off.Signa said:
If anything the guy already has a chock full load of answers for his controller question, one person happens to utter a slight of the PC platform and the usual people come out and jump him, then another and another, before long this topic has well and truly turned into a console vs PC thread with the PC side declaring utter dominance and factual winnings on their end, I wish this shit fest would stop or at least have the Escapist make it a perma ban rule to prevent this kind of crap from ever happening again because it's getting us nowhere and c certainly doesn't win anything.
While I do agree in that the joke has overdone its stay and has been used in a non-ironic/satire way by assholes, I think by context and the general admittance to the person being a newbie we can assume it wasn't meant in any sort of negative fashion, but just a joke to try and break the ice with the crowd. Obviously a few people are unsettled by it, but those typically aren't the people he was aiming a response from. And not to say anyone SHOULDN'T be offended by the joke, but a little bit more diplomacy and passiveness can go a long way if you don't like what someone said. (Not aimed at you, but answering a joke that offended you with a passive aggressive response or an indirect angry response can be the stick that lights the flame)s69-5 said:
like if I won tickets to a boston red sox game in the clubhouse, to break ice I'd probably crack some yankee's joke to get a smile or show I'm coming with friendly intentions, even if I have no ire and enjoy many of the yankee's players. Maybe not the best metaphor, but it's what came to mind at the moment.
(Also, I knew someone who had the xbox live name "Aryan Trainer" and "Aryan master race", it was quite impressive how many times he got shot down in chat before even mentioning a peep due to his name. Just a random personal experience I'd let you know about.I didn't approve of it and neither did he, but it was his dad's old username that was free xbox live so he just played on it.)
Yeah there are quite a few pro-pc players than can be elitist dicks, and I think they let their heads get much bigger than they can handle sometimes with how they deliver messages aggressively rather than in a assertive/passive manner, it's unnecessary and I've seen it more in abundance from pc people. That being said, some if not alot of the answers in here do back up their responses with facts and links to their sources, which is why I think sometimes some "dicks" get rattled up, trying to use objective facts on subjective views and vise versa.
appreciate the civility.
If you use a controller you can't be part of the PC Master Race. Ween yourself off it, then come back. Seriously, once you play with a keyboard and mouse for a couple months you will see how superior it is. Then you will never be able to use a controller again.
Uhhhh.. no.lonesome killer said:
I have a 1400? PC, I've never owned a console, yet I use a controller, why you ask? It's comftorable, especially while you're on the indoors bike, you know, exercise, something I started to do is only play games while I run, needless to say I don't play many games anymore.
