Journey Creator: Games Aren't Good Enough for Adults

[wintercoat]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

OT: Can't we go a month without some developer shooting his/her mouth off? Just one month. I don't ask for much. Is it so hard to be humble after making a hit game?

 

[pilouuuu]

I don't totally agree. Games can be good to adults if they cater to our inner child, something that's related to something called imagination.

The thing is violent games cater to our inner animal, to our basic instincts, and adults are supposed to become more sophisticated as years go by, that's why you start to need games that make you use your imagination, that have more philosophical themes and make you THINK about life, but are not about life itself, unless you're playing The Sims, but even in The Sims you use your imagination to create a control small creatures made of pixels.

 

[Monsterfurby]

As a fan of strategy games of the more complex king, I can only shake my head at this. Dude. Not all games are shooters. I am not saying that these are teaching me major life lessons, but if you say playing Poker teaches me something, I would reckon playing any strategy game ever does, too.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

OT: Can't we go a month without some developer shooting his/her mouth off? Just one month. I don't ask for much. Is it so hard to be humble after making a hit game?

Because they're funded and published by Sony?

Unless the definition of Indie changed when I wasn't looking

 

[Fearzone]

This time he makes sense. I'm finding myself more and more bored by most games out there. A man can only go back to Super Stardust so much.

 

[Racthoh]

It would be nice if the next time a developer opens their mouth about the game industry they would do so without making reference to shooters and how terrible they are for society. It's getting old. There are other genres out there. In any case he just sounds like someone who should be ignored. By his logic I supposed gaming during the Atari and NES eras were a waste of time because the technical limitations prevented anything truly thought provoking from emerging.

I play games to have fun, stop telling me what fun is supposed to be and let me decide for myself.

 

[Tiger Sora]

Are video games meant to be emotionally / intellectually stimulating forms of media relevant to real life.

Or.

An escape to a fantasy realm for which you can leave your own world/life for a multiple of reason ranging from just boredom to the extreme.

Many play games because life's given them a short stick, or it's just not enough for them. Sure some may be trying for what that man said. But I believe it to be more an escape from reality. Or you know, you just like games cause they're fun. All valid reasons.

 

[RJ Dalton]

*cough*bullshit*cough*
Honestly, you could make the same argument about any form of media, be it games or books and you'd be just as wrong either way. Well, maybe slightly more wrong with books, because books engage the brain more than most other forms of media, but not much more wrong.

 

[wintercoat]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

OT: Can't we go a month without some developer shooting his/her mouth off? Just one month. I don't ask for much. Is it so hard to be humble after making a hit game?

Because they're funded and published by Sony?

Unless the definition of Indie changed when I wasn't looking

Actually, their contract with Sony ended after they finished Journey. They're an independent studio now.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

OT: Can't we go a month without some developer shooting his/her mouth off? Just one month. I don't ask for much. Is it so hard to be humble after making a hit game?

Because they're funded and published by Sony?

Unless the definition of Indie changed when I wasn't looking

Actually, their contract with Sony ended after they finished Journey. They're an independent studio now.

Indeed, but with no Indie titles under their belt.

At the moment, they're just as Indie as I am

 

[ultrachicken]

Making someone cry because the game made them kill someone who the game made them fall in love with because the story is a dick isn't relevant to real life either. Sure you made me invested emotionally in the story and the characters, but it doesn't teach me anything. I don't appreciate people more, I don't feel bad for people in real life, and killing people close to me hopefully won't be relevant to life either. I like his conclusion, but I think his reasoning isn't sound.

Are you talking about Journey? Because I don't remember that part.

 

[Richardplex]

Making someone cry because the game made them kill someone who the game made them fall in love with because the story is a dick isn't relevant to real life either. Sure you made me invested emotionally in the story and the characters, but it doesn't teach me anything. I don't appreciate people more, I don't feel bad for people in real life, and killing people close to me hopefully won't be relevant to life either. I like his conclusion, but I think his reasoning isn't sound.

Are you talking about Journey? Because I don't remember that part.

I was not, I haven't played Journey. I was referencing Fate/Stay Night, a visual novel.

 

[Vault101]

was I inteullectually stimulated while playing journey?..I can't remember, all I was thinking was [i/]whoa...the emotionally manipulative "artsy levels are off the charts here[/i] I did like the game though

but am I noticing a pattern here?

AAA bigshots seem to be "huurrrr multplayer! graphics!"

while the "indie" artists are like "nnneeerrr...we need In-too-lec-too-al stimulation...haw haw haw arnt so deep and clever?"

 

[wintercoat]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

OT: Can't we go a month without some developer shooting his/her mouth off? Just one month. I don't ask for much. Is it so hard to be humble after making a hit game?

Because they're funded and published by Sony?

Unless the definition of Indie changed when I wasn't looking

Actually, their contract with Sony ended after they finished Journey. They're an independent studio now.

Indeed, but with no Indie titles under their belt.

At the moment, they're just as Indie as I am

However, they do, presumably, have something in the works that will be their first independently funded project. I would think it still counts.

Also, I'm pretty sure you're considered mainstream. And I've heard the rumors about where you get your funding. You couldn't be indie if you wanted to.

 

[wintercoat]

Oh look, an indie game creator has a giant, pretentious ego. How unexpected!

Dude, he's not indie.

Uhhh, yeah, he is. Thatgamecompany is an independent studio consisting of a handful of people. They've made three games, all considered indie titles. How is that not indie?

By the fact that all of their games have been completely funded by Sony from day one.

As I said to Daystar, their contract with Sony ended after they finished Journey. They are, at this moment, the moment where he made his comment, an independent dev studio.