Judge Awards Sony With Visitor IDs of PS3 Hacker's Website

theriddlen

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Sony is full of absent-minded retards.

I pronounce you the second company on my blacklist. You've earned it.
 

Something Amyss

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Kenjitsuka said:
So when are they going to sue the Escapists ISP so they can find out who commented on this comment on the case?
"LOL"

Look me up, Sony!

The thing I don't get is what this research demonstrates. They claim they need it to prove their case against him, but how? His visitors, even if they used his tech for piracy, do not dictate whether or not he broke the law. If we could use that kind of example as evidence, every gun manufacturer would be in jail because their hardware has been used in crimes (regardless of intent). Proving he "distributed jailbreak materials" seems rather flimsy, since jailbreak materials in and of themselves have been found legal.

They want the personal information of people to which he distributed something they contest but even defined withing the context of a legal term? That really does sound like an excuse to get the info for other reasons. Maybe not to sue everyone under the sun, but other reasons.

And the judge agreed? I wonder if he has a specific reason or, if like many people who legislate and preside over technological issues, he has no freaking clue.
 

IndianaJonny

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So some judge in California believes it's within his authority to hand over details of people from across the world into the hands of Sony? Yeah, the 'internet' sounds like an "overly broad" jurisdiction to me.
 

JediMB

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What.

I...

What.

Joseph Spero must be completely computer illiterate for even considering giving all that information to Sony. This is insane.
 

Beastialman

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I'm going to leave a comment about how Sony's legal system is flawed and this is over stepping their boundaries.

10 bucks says Sony and Youtube work out a deal where they have my comment edited to say "YEAH BOI I BOUGHT 3 OF DIS SHIT TIME TO HACK COD AND USE MY PS3 AS AN ILLEGAL ABORTION TOOL."
 

sunami88

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C'mon Google! Fight it! This war has been coming a while, just like how The Piratebay et al can be sued for indexing torrents, but Google is suspiciously left off the roster.

Don't give them this kind of power!
 

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BRB getting on one of the videos to tell Sony to shove a long pointy object up a place where it shouldn't be. XD

OOT: This is... way too fucking much. Why the hell would any judge grant this?
 

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bahumat42 said:
geez people this only being used as EVIDENCE. Their not even doing anything about the people they have info on (yet). And even if they did, they would be in the right, its their service and they should do the best to protect it from thieves and people ruining games due to hacks.

Oh and it has already hurt sony, ala the killzone 3 leak. So yeah kinda an issue they should deal with.
Fun fact: a video from Geohotz was linked here, on the Escapist, so if you have been following the news here, chances are that you are a criminal in Sony's eyes.
 
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bahumat42 said:
geez people this only being used as EVIDENCE.
So you've no problem that if you've ever visited a Weblog/YouTube account that is now being used for fraudulent activities, your personal details can be used as evidence in a court of law for a crime?

Or that Sony could accuse you of downloading information from that site, and sue you as an accessory, if you've ever accessed that site, even when it wasn't used for fraudulent activity?

And contrary to the Data Protection Act (or any other Non-US Law protecting Privacy), your personal information could be stored by Sony as long as the case is ongoing?

That's a stunning abuse of power.

EDIT: By the way, that's the same California that's trying to ban people using adult games; and they've just granted a right to grab all gamer accounts. Can't see any conflict of interest there at all....
 

Cipher1

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Well I didnt know some judge in California had the power to do such a thing let alone would... well I guess you learn something new every day.
 

FalloutJack

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Speaking as a PS3 owner, I have this to say to Sony.

Oh please, try to sue everyone on the planet. I'd love to see someone literally inundated with lawyers citing all manner of legal hash at once. (Sort of like in The Dark Knight?) I may have Sony products, but that doesn't mean I don't find this ridiculous.
 

Scorched_Cascade

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bahumat42 said:
geez people this only being used as EVIDENCE. Their not even doing anything about the people they have info on (yet). And even if they did, they would be in the right, its their service and they should do the best to protect it from thieves and people ruining games due to hacks.
So you are fine with the judge handing sony all personnel information on anyone who has interacted with a person of interest to them? They want anyone whose seen his youtube videos (probably including his real life friends) and anyone whose seen his twitter feed. what about people who have seen news stories about it and have googled it to get more information?

Sony who is not an unintrested party when it comes to personal information usage; its a major player in the overly draconian RIAA.

It's equivalent to Person A committing a minor crime and the police receiving personal information on anyone who has ever been spotted by CCTV walking past or anywhere near Person A. Except it's much worse than that because they are receiving information on people from other countries who are not subject to their laws. In fact it is down-right illegal according to our (UK) data laws to hand out people's personal information without a very strong cause.
 

aashell13

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everything about this case makes me glad i don't own a ps3, and at this point i don't see myself buying anything of Sony's in the future.
 

TheGuiggleMonster

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Everyone who doesn't live in California (like myself) please join me in commenting on all his videos, looking at his blog and downloading whatever he's uploaded onto the internet so far.