Just a Rumor: Fallout 4 is in Boston

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Is that a rumour? Or do you have more than a feeling that it will be there?

I am from the UK... and all I know of Boston is that the people are the closest to Brits you can get, it had the best tasting harbour in the world and it is named after a horriffic town in Lincolnshire! :/

 

[Eddie the head]

I am not talking about satire. I am talking about the mentality of the NPCs that make no sense 200 years later.

The entirety of Fallout 3 was just people sitting around doing NOTHING but whine and complain about how their lives suck now that America isn't around. Regardless of the fact none of them would know anything about pre-war America.

Its like us sitting around talking about how American life sucks and how it was so much better under Roman rule if we didn't know who Romans were.

They didn't rebuild like the Californians did. They didn't start cultivating crops. They didn't start actual trade caravans.They did absolutely nothing for 200 years.

California was hit first, and had to deal with problems worse than DC ever did. What was the East Coast's excuse?

Did we play the same game? I don't remember this. I think they said some stuff about it was better before the bombs fell. Is that what you are talking about? Whats left of the american government is vilified to a hellish degree? They are concertedly not making the military look good. I'm sorry I just have no idea what you are talking about. Care to explain?

 

[immortalfrieza]

I think that it won't really matter whether Bethesda or Obsidian makes the game, they're both smart enough to take a look at what New Vegas did and it's reception and incorporate what worked and what didn't into the next game, so it'll probably be good either way.

EDIT: Also, while I'm aware of it, I don't get this complaining about bugs in Bethesda and Obsidian games, the most I've ever seen is the occasional rock with part of the texture missing, that's it. Maybe it's because my computer is able to run the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games with plenty of computing power to spare, or I've been VERY lucky, I don't know.

As for the location, I'm hoping they aren't going for Boston. Why? It's just because it's not that well known of a location. I've never been anywhere near D.C. but I can take a look at the Lincoln Memorial or the Washington Monument in a game and know instantly what I'm looking at. I also know Vegas well enough despite never being within 500 miles of it to know it's largely about gambling and such, not to mention New Vegas' general western theme is something everybody knows. In short, they're locations just about anybody can identify with no matter where in the world they live, which is important because Fallout is intended to reach a worldwide audience, and that's easier to do if the game takes place in a location most have at least a passing knowledge of.

Boston? Not so much. I don't even have a clue what the place looks like, what kind of monuments it has if any, and pretty much the only event I can think of in history that's notable in Boston is the Boston Day Massacre, which is a pretty minor footnote when it comes to American history.

A place like Chicago or New York would probably work better, Chicago since the 50's mobster era would fit perfectly with Fallout's overall theme, while New York is a place with lots of identifiable landmarks, would be a place that probably would have been hit pretty heavily by the bombs, and both are pretty well known major U.S. cities in their own right.

This is under the assumption they'd stick to America of course, a place like London or Paris or somewhere like that would be good for a setting out of the good ol USofA, since they have yet to explain what the hell happened to the rest of the world in the 200 years since the apocalypse.

 

[immortalfrieza]

I'm pretty sick of "generic post-apocalyptic wasteland, set in generic U.S. like country."

Then stop playing Fallout games, because that^ is what the series is and always will be.

 

[rosac]

>.> I still hope for a Fallout outside the US. And, just for clarification, "outside the US" does NOT equal Russia!

The world is so big. There is so much to see and so many stories that can be told...

I want an Arabic city to be done. Maybe an African country, post war egypt anyone?

I know that canon wise, not many places outside the US or China were affected, but still.

 

[Eddie the head]

The Enclave actually isn't the military. Its the presidency and the legislative branch. It's brotherhood of steel is what's essentially left of the US military. Right up until Bethesda made them seemingly reproduce by a cloud of spores.

If you actually look at everyone in the entirety of Fallout 3. None of them do anything.

The Brotherhood of steel sits on its ass, collecting nothing worthwhile. A guass rifle and a T-51B armor? Common. A winter pattern non-MK 1/2 combat armor? not even worth noticing. The new BOS seems incredibly easy to impress. They have this stupid idea they should "protect people" when there really isn't anything worth protecting in DC. Almost every settlement is outside DC itself. There would be no need to patrol surface streets.

The settlements? Barely a hand full of people complaining about their problems. There is at least one person in a town who can't stop talking about America and how it was so "great."

They complain that nothing grows, yet plant life isn't actually effected by radiation. Chernobyl is still lush and green. Hell even the southern Californians grew food, and California is basically a giant desert.

They complain about radiation in the water, yet that can be taken out by use of a distiller. Ocean water can't be radioactive past base point by what I researched. The fish are even edible, as the Californians have been fishing for a while now.

They complain about how life is hard (by their own fault), and yet they do nothing for themselves. When they don't complain about their problems, they harp on about a long dead country they knew nothing about.

"The Enclave actually isn't the military. Its the presidency and the legislative branch." . .. .... hmm.. .. ...... . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . just one . . . . . . . . . This, just. One second. The president of the united states is the Commander-in-chief of the armed forces. If colonel or whatever it was brakes off form the military, because they are doing sick shit or whatever. And then after that fights the presidency's armed forces and the Enclave is an armed force. They are at best rebels. Not even that they are decedents of rebels. The united states has its roots in England a lot of the laws a lot of the ideas for government come form England they use to be part of the British empire but not anymore. The united states is part of the British empire in the same way the BOS is part of the military. No they are clearly divorced form it. For the rest of it those are plot holes and I never saw the "harp on about a long dead country they knew nothing about." Maybe a bit with Lincoln getting romanticized, but that happened's a bit to the British guy killed the slave trade decades before hand and they did better. But spare the slave bits, who are more about a man not a country, what are you talking about? I don't see this where is it?

 

[fish iron4]

I want a Fallout set in London

 

[Pearwood]

I guess Fallout European Grand Tour isn't gonna happen. I want to fight rad-lions in the Colosseum!

I know that canon wise, not many places outside the US or China were affected, but still.

Really? I never looked into it, I just assumed with them calling it the apocalypse it was world wide.

 

[twohundredpercent]

I hope they start out with one non-Core region location and expand using some decent DLCs like in New Vegas.

I'm thinking off the top of my head Boston, Chicago, Toronto, and the area around Lake Erie, since I heard those mentioned in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

Also I hope they get the sort of original Fallout team to work on it this time. It's a shame that they're so unwilling to deviate from the core region though just because they live there.

I'll still get it if it's in the core region and it's done by the main, original Fallout people of course.

 

[immortalfrieza]

I'm pretty sick of "generic post-apocalyptic wasteland, set in generic U.S. like country."

Then stop playing Fallout games, because that^ is what the series is and always will be.

It's the generic U.S. part that gets to me.

• Why not an urban, tropical island, just beginning to regrow and resurface from under the rubble, with spats of colour slowly piercing the dark, war weary landscape, hinting at life and hope for those left behind? The stray flower here and bits of green grass there help to remind the people what they are striving to re-obtain. But of course, not everyone wants things to go back to the way they were and the road to restoring paradise is a chaotic and difficult one.
  
  Why not somewhere cold and frigid, where raiders are the least of your problems and survival means shelter and warmth, a place where a thick jacket and a warm fire is more desired than a gun. Those brave enough to explore the icy surface find ruined towns buried under tons of snow. left to rust and fall apart by their people, rushed underground to flee the bombs. But they may also find great riches, left behind and untouched by the less daring. No doubt others also seek such fortune.
  
  Perhaps a grand and flourishing city, totally untouched by the destruction and war of the rest of the world. Refugees from all over make the arduous journey from their desolate homes, in search of the fabled golden city. But the city is run by greed and those that control the unspoiled resources keep everything for themselves.

• 
  
  Isn't this part pretty much what New Vegas was?
  
  

  Above ground the city is clean and white, an icon of the future. Below the busy roads, the refugees are crammed into sewers and ruined cities, long since built over. Do you help keep order and power, forcing the lowly peasants into their holes? Or do you lead a rebellion of the people, taking over the untouched paradise and helping the weak? Maybe still, you play both sides for all their worth and seize every opportunity you can. Whatever path you walk, the mystery of the city that withstood the end of the world awaits.

The opportunities are limitless. So yes, keep Fallout as Fallout, but simply making another generic American wasteland will do to the brand what Modern Warfare did to Call of Duty--stagnation.

Wow, just... wow. The way you describe it sounds pretty awesome, I would LOVE for a Fallout game to be in a formerly densely populated city, somewhere with tons of skyscrapers, with lots rubble, ghouls, super mutants, and people. D.C. was a too sparse for my taste, especially for the so called capital of the U.S. I'd also like to see less mutated monster animals and such and more people or former people to fight and ally with.

The problem as I see it is post apocalyptic media has just been too much about wide open stretches of nothing littered with bandits and such pretty much since Mad Max, and they're afraid to deviate from this formula. The only thing that's really been different from that is zombie apocalypses, and those are are pretty impractical for a Fallout game.

What I'd like to see most of all though, is to see the choices that I make in a Fallout game have REAL impact on the game's world, and not just in the still pictures at the ending (BTW, they should drop the pictures thing and go with animation instead IMHO) but RIGHT after you do it. Have you ever noticed that in Bethesda games how it doesn't really seem to matter if your character ever did anything before the ending? Unless you just up and kill everybody, the world doesn't to get better or worse in most cases than if you never did anything at all.

i.e. Sure, I just got your starving town food/deprived your town of food/helped you train for battle/negotiated a trade agreement/cut off your supplies etc., would it be too much to ask that you LOOK AND ACT like you're a little more or less prosperous than you were before I showed up? You know, make the town look cleaner and people dress nicer and acting happier or more run down and people looking more impoverished and miserable?

 

[silver wolf009]

=/ disappointing.
I'm still hoping for one held in a excessively coastal city, so i can have my post apocalyptic pirate dream come true.

Boston is coastal. The colonials weren't dumping tea into a river.

I was thinking more like Florida, which according to some theorists will be mostly flooded by the time of the apocalypse.
edit: a city in Florida*

Ahh...well you could also do that in my home city of Charleston, SC. We have tons of pirate stuff here. Blackbeard did blockade the city and hold some key citizens for ransom.

Hell yeah Blackbeard! NC pride!!

*Pirate state inhabitant gush.*

OT: *Ahem.* I'm optimistic. Very optimistic. I hated NV, so I'm glad Bethesda is at the reigns on this one, and I'm hoping for another one like 3. I sunk so many hours into 3, and I want to do it again with this one.

 

[Sean Hollyman]

Eh I can't wait til the next Fallout, but I know little to nothing about America so I don't know anything about location

I still think Fallout Alaska would be cool, mutant polar bears and yetis and shit.

 

[Tropicaz]

So, here's hoping it's actually post-apocalyptic, unlike the last one.

True dat. NV felt nothing like living in a post-apocalyptic setting, especially with a city like vegas still intacted (somehow).

Oh, and sorry to disappoint obsidian fans, but Bethesda is developing Fallout 4. Deal with it.

It's meant to be set hundreds of years post-apocalypse. Surely after 200 years stuff would get rebuilt and some sort of society would begin to be formed..

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

I am not talking about satire. I am talking about the mentality of the NPCs that make no sense 200 years later.

The entirety of Fallout 3 was just people sitting around doing NOTHING but whine and complain about how their lives suck now that America isn't around. Regardless of the fact none of them would know anything about pre-war America.

Its like us sitting around talking about how American life sucks and how it was so much better under Roman rule if we didn't know who Romans were.

They didn't rebuild like the Californians did. They didn't start cultivating crops. They didn't start actual trade caravans.They did absolutely nothing for 200 years.

California was hit first, and had to deal with problems worse than DC ever did. What was the East Coast's excuse?

. . . . . . . . . . The hell are you talking about? That is in no way tied to your original complaint I pointed out, nor does it make sense when you look at the actual game.

The Enclave actually isn't the military. Its the presidency and the legislative branch. It's brotherhood of steel is what's essentially left of the US military. Right up until Bethesda made them seemingly reproduce by a cloud of spores.

If you actually look at everyone in the entirety of Fallout 3. None of them do anything.

The Brotherhood of steel sits on its ass, collecting nothing worthwhile. A guass rifle and a T-51B armor? Common. A winter pattern non-MK 1/2 combat armor? not even worth noticing. The new BOS seems incredibly easy to impress. They have this stupid idea they should "protect people" when there really isn't anything worth protecting in DC. Almost every settlement is outside DC itself. There would be no need to patrol surface streets.

The settlements? Barely a hand full of people complaining about their problems. There is at least one person in a town who can't stop talking about America and how it was so "great."

They complain that nothing grows, yet plant life isn't actually effected by radiation. Chernobyl is still lush and green. Hell even the southern Californians grew food, and southern California is basically a giant desert.

They complain about radiation in the water, yet that can be taken out by use of a distiller. Ocean water can't be radioactive past base point by what I researched. The fish are even edible, as the Californians have been fishing for a while now.

They complain about how life is hard (by their own fault), and yet they do nothing for themselves. When they don't complain about their problems, they harp on about a long dead country they knew nothing about.

Oh oh ooooooh... I see. You're not saying that everyone in the wasteland is just sitting around doing nothing, they just aren't doing what you think they should be doing by your definition of a Fallout game.

Also, science also says that radiation won't make monster crab-people and giant scorpions. Radiation is magic in video games in comic books (actually in some cases literally in comic books). And someone seems to have forgotten that the DC Wasteland is a complete warzone.

 

[Terminate421]

I'm still hoping they come and check out Atlanta, I'd use the game for an art project at SCAD while I am there.

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

I prefer [Bethesda] Fallout to The Elder Scrolls. I can't really put my finger on why that is. They're both great, but given a choice I'd pick Fallout any day.

 

[Saviordd1]

Here is hoping they get someone other than Bethesda to write the game. Like Obsidian.

Yes, because every single faction vying for the magical Scientific Mcguffin was totally original story telling and makes them the gods of story writing...
Oh wait, no it doesn't, they wrote 3 good characters and everyone pooed themselves.

OT: Called it, now, if someone hasn't made the USS Constitution a fortress for an over the top GO AMERICA YA raider group I shall be very disappointed.

 

[Saviordd1]

-snip-

But Obsidian made New Vegas...
and Boston doesn't really scream Civil War...
I don't even understand what logic train you used...

 

[Korten12]

>.> I still hope for a Fallout outside the US. And, just for clarification, "outside the US" does NOT equal Russia!

The world is so big. There is so much to see and so many stories that can be told...

I want an Arabic city to be done. Maybe an African country, post war egypt anyone?

I know that canon wise, not many places outside the US or China were affected, but still.

Uh... What? Did you read the canon at all? Even before China and the US nuked everything the world was fucked. There was the huge resource wars in Europe versus the middle east which ended in everything being destroyed by nukes, and then after the US and China fought more nukes around the world were dropped. Since the US was the only place to have Vaults (since Vault-tec was essentially part of the Gov) they were the only ones able to make it. Which even then they weren't able to even make half of the vaults needed.

I guess Fallout European Grand Tour isn't gonna happen. I want to fight rad-lions in the Colosseum!

I know that canon wise, not many places outside the US or China were affected, but still.

Really? I never looked into it, I just assumed with them calling it the apocalypse it was world wide.

Read above.

 

[Starblazer117]

I will piss my pants if they set it in Wyoming.