Just a Rumor: Fallout 4 is in Boston

[Pandabearparade]

Oh, and sorry to disappoint obsidian fans, but Bethesda is developing Fallout 4. Deal with it.

Hi. I'm a fan of both Bethesda and Obsidian. Everyone already knew Fallout 4 was going to be developed by Bethesda. There is no call for acting like a fanboy douche.

 

[ChaplainOrion]

For some reason a Fallout Niagara Falls game popped into my head.

My family lived there for years before moving and my grandpa still lives there. In the 50's it was a bustling industrial center where they made tons of stuff, they were building the hydroelectric plant and when that went so did the rest of the place. I bet in the Fallout universe the place didn't fall apart. They also mention in Point Lookout that a Chinese agent sabotaged Niagara Falls but they didn't say exactly what. and since it's right on the border I would imagine that there could be a Canadian v American sentiment still going on there, with the "Canucks" getting aid from Toronto and the "'Mericans" having the remains of Niagra Falls and Buffalo. And in the end all the problems are solved in a game of "death-puck"

Also I always wondered what the hell happened to Native Americans. They weren't anything important so the nukes probably avoided the reservations and there was also a ton of discontent amongst the reservations against the USA, so I could also see the Chinese instigating rebellion or other such things and being a regular pain in the ass for the USA.

 

[Pandabearparade]

Yes, because every single faction vying for the magical Scientific Mcguffin was totally original story telling and makes them the gods of story writing...

Are you talking about the platinum chip? If so, I don't think you know what a MacGuffin is. It has a clearly defined purpose in the story, it's not mysterious. House/Yes Man tell you exactly what it does and why it is of significant strategic importance.

Further, for two of four of the paths you can take it is of no importance at all and can be effectively ignored.

If you want to point to a bad main story in the Fallout series, Fallout 3 wins hands down. It's not contest. From middle to end the entire plot just unravels into facepalm moment after facepalm moment.

 

[Jaeke]

I'm currently hoping for a more grizzly location like the Appalachian or maybe Canadian/Alaskan wilderness type. You know, evergreen and coniferous, like the Falkreath hold and maybe a pinch of the Riften hold from Skyrim.

But Boston? Cool beans, especially if they expand on the city-size. I loved D.C., vastly more so than that pathetic excuse of a city they call New Vegas.
And maybe some seafaring navigation could be a part, that would be cool...

 

[EboMan7x]

Although I am not a fan of baseball I can't help but feel this is somewhat poetic justice, I having annoyed countless individuals with my points for why NYC would be the best choice, Boston being home to the Red Sox, NYC being home to the Yankees, and those two teams sharing a rivalry. My lord, what a horribly formed sentence.

 

[Jaeke]

I'm pretty sick of "generic post-apocalyptic wasteland, set in generic U.S. like country."

Then stop playing Fallout games, because that^ is what the series is and always will be.

It's the generic U.S. part that gets to me.

• Why not an urban, tropical island, just beginning to regrow and resurface from under the rubble, with spats of colour slowly piercing the dark, war weary landscape, hinting at life and hope for those left behind? The stray flower here and bits of green grass there help to remind the people what they are striving to re-obtain. But of course, not everyone wants things to go back to the way they were and the road to restoring paradise is a chaotic and difficult one.
  
  Why not somewhere cold and frigid, where raiders are the least of your problems and survival means shelter and warmth, a place where a thick jacket and a warm fire is more desired than a gun. Those brave enough to explore the icy surface find ruined towns buried under tons of snow. left to rust and fall apart by their people, rushed underground to flee the bombs. But they may also find great riches, left behind and untouched by the less daring. No doubt others also seek such fortune.
  
  Perhaps a grand and flourishing city, totally untouched by the destruction and war of the rest of the world. Refugees from all over make the arduous journey from their desolate homes, in search of the fabled golden city. But the city is run by greed and those that control the unspoiled resources keep everything for themselves. Above ground the city is clean and white, an icon of the future. Below the busy roads, the refugees are crammed into sewers and ruined cities, long since built over. Do you help keep order and power, forcing the lowly peasants into their holes? Or do you lead a rebellion of the people, taking over the untouched paradise and helping the weak? Maybe still, you play both sides for all their worth and seize every opportunity you can. Whatever path you walk, the mystery of the city that withstood the end of the world awaits.

The opportunities are limitless. So yes, keep Fallout as Fallout, but simply making another generic American wasteland will do to the brand what Modern Warfare did to Call of Duty--stagnation.

Are you American? I don't mean to ask this question with distaste but the point I'm trying to get at is that American's (which is the home of all of the games' developers to boot) get a sense of satisfaction (for lack of better word) when they play these games, especially Fallout 3, because it's their homelands capital. Now I'm not generalizing that every American who plays Fallout 3 loves it the most because it's in Washington D.C., but that had a lot of affect, especially on me, as an American.
It was fascinating to relive in the capital of my nation in the retro-futuristic wasteland that ecompassed the game, from seeing the barely-standing monuements I have visited in my own very person, and to stare at the molding and creaking remains of the Mall I have walked through with my own two feet.
Probably the monumental reason I hold Fallout 3 higher than it's successor Fallout: New Vegas, was because of the atmosphere it created in such a short time, and it's because of the significant landmark it uses as it's setting, that Fallout 3 fleshed out this gritty, and alien, yet so familiar place that stabbed itself right into a special place of my heart, and earned the game it's place as one of my favorites of all time.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Here is hoping they get someone other than Bethesda to write the game. Like Obsidian.

Here's hoping that Bethesda has more input in the game this time and doesn't allow Obsidian to fuck it up with invisible walls at every corner and shitty containment excuses in game.

Spoiler

Seriously fuck the bomb-collar. While interesting it just made navigating the Sierra Madre irritating as fuck.

OT: Should be interesting. I really want to see more of the East side of America again, I want to be able to see how that's progressed on a larger scale than just the ruins of Washington. Something like a larger version of the Pitt with a fresh and interesting story would be perfect.

 

[Saviordd1]

-WUT-

Okay....
Allow me to respond in kind
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas

See that first sentence, where is says, and I quote
"Fallout: New Vegas is a role-playing video game developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Bethesda Softworks."
You know "Developed" means that Obsidian made it right? And published means that Bethesda just shipped it...

On top of that, I know my history, Boston was a big part of Abolitionism movements, but not really the war itself; it sent a few regiments true but no major battles happened near it or anything like that.

On top of THAT, did you actually READ any of the stuff you sent? Or were you just to lazy to actually read so you googled it and said you understood it, because you clearly don't.

Also, owning an IP doesn't mean that Bethesda will exclusively make Fallout games, as told above they gave the actual making of a game to Obsidian.

I mean, dear god man, THINK.

Yes, because every single faction vying for the magical Scientific Mcguffin was totally original story telling and makes them the gods of story writing...

Are you talking about the platinum chip? If so, I don't think you know what a MacGuffin is. It has a clearly defined purpose in the story, it's not mysterious. House/Yes Man tell you exactly what it does and why it is of significant strategic importance.

Further, for two of four of the paths you can take it is of no importance at all and can be effectively ignored.

If you want to point to a bad main story in the Fallout series, Fallout 3 wins hands down. It's not contest. From middle to end the entire plot just unravels into facepalm moment after facepalm moment.

Its a Macguffin for about 65% of the plot (and side bets isn't part of the plot and we all know that's where a lot of your time was spent) and it gets explained at the end of the first act/beginning of the second, that's cause enough to call it a Macguffin (Though I give you credit for spelling it right when I couldn't)

Beyond that, how is it full of facepalm moments? Sure I'm not saying its shakespeare but it wasn't nearly that bad.

Plus, you know, at least it set up motivation beyond getting shot in the head. (Which I agree with Yahtzee on as a bad motivation)

 

[Cowabungaa]

As long as they make the city properly explorable and not 90% cordoned off like Washington DC or cut up into boring little pieces like New Vegas I'm probably happy with any big, cool city.

My vote still goes to New York or New Orleans, as I know fuck-all about Boston, but I'll wait and see with curious interest.

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

I wanted Indianapolis........

 

[DrOswald]

So, here's hoping it's actually post-apocalyptic, unlike the last one.

True dat. NV felt nothing like living in a post-apocalyptic setting, especially with a city like vegas still intacted (somehow).

Oh, and sorry to disappoint obsidian fans, but Bethesda is developing Fallout 4. Deal with it.

I actually thought that the setting in New Vegas was much better than in Fallout 3. I also think it is much more lore friendly than a typical post post-apocalyptic setting at this point. I mean, New Vegas took place 204 years after the so called apocalypse.

To put that in better perspective, based on the current average generation gap of 25 years (best number I could find) in the USA, if you are now combat age (18+, or the age of the player character) your great great great great great great grandfather was in the war when he was your age. If we assume a maximum of 90 year life span in a world with virtually no health care (a very generous estimate,) it is impossible for anyone alive to have ever seen someone who had ever seen someone who was alive when the war was happening.

This was actually something that really bothered me about Fallout 3. Its been 200 years! Why don't these people start rebuilding? Why are the content to live in the burnt out remains of a pre war house? They could at least fix that giant hole in the wall so they aren't eaten by mutant scorpions while they sleep. But no, everyone just sits around moaning about how much it sucks that the world ended when their great great great great grandparents were in diapers. Why I should care about these people when they clearly don't care about themselves?

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

Does that mean that every npc will sound like the scout? I approve.

 

[TheCrapMaster]

As long as it gives me a major city like fallout 3 to explore im happy.

And seeing how this seems to be abit about wenting on how the latest two installments were i wanna leave my thoughts.

Story wise fallout new vegas was the better of the two latest fallout games. BUT "feeling" wise fallout 3 wins big time for me. I liked the part where you actualy can get lost in the city between the metros and in the open big city. The random looting places you could find where a skeleton sits at his dinner table with the plates and forks all set out before him. Never knowing whats behind the corner. Random looting in the middle of nowhere that wasent a area marker. Computers with the days before the fallout journals and pre fallout depos to find. Small communitys with people and overall random npcs that seems nice but actualy are cannibals to vampires, nuka cola addicts and so on. Heck it even had a old school computer game in it! And lets not forget Dunwich*shivers*

Basicly fallout 3 had more details and feel built into it.

New vegas was still a great game, the DLC to it was awesome and as i said before the main story and plotting was way better then fallout 3. The feeling of stroling through the desert with the in game radio on and some nice western insipred weapons was a nice touch. But exploring and feeling you actualy found something hidden never got to me in new vegas, it was basicly going through a flat open world where the exploring got to basicly walk to the next landmark in sight. And the fact that the place never got hit hard by nukes fits the place perfect story wise with mr.house and all...but come on the game series is named "fallout". Sure i can understand the designers wanted to take abit new direction and not make the same setting as before.

So in short. New vegas= great story with the DLC realy rounding up the game most exelent with the burning man and more about the courirer before being shot in the head. Exploring and setting wise"mjeh".

Fallout 3= Great enviroment where it realy felt post-apocalyptic, exploring high and low in buildings and world known landmarks in ruins. Overall main story and mystery "mjeh".

And sry for most probably alot of typos and bad gramar. Not that good spelling in english.

 

[Legendairy314]

Boston hmm? Seems we might get some references to what happened in fallout 3 rather than New Vegas. I'm interested to see what's happened to this "new" Brotherhood of Steel and whether their reach has gone that far. I've got a theory that eventually the FO3 Brotherhood and NV NCR will eventually meet in the middle of the U.S. and spark another Civil War. But that's just me...

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

F3 was just as buggy when it came out. Also, QA was handled entirely by Beth. Obsidian had 11 months to make F:NV using the bugladen Gamebryo engine. That combined with the nonexistent QA by Beth and what they turned out was fucking fantastic.

Edit: After a brief bit of research into Bethesda's QA history, I have been humbled.

[small]. . . . . I still stand by that Fallout 3 wasn't nearly as buggy though. . . . .[/small]

. . . . . . . . . . Fallout 3 (or anything made by Bethesda) never screwed up something as simple as a save function in an RPG.

Three saves. A quick save, an auto-save, and a regular manual save. All in the same place. All made after seven fucking hours playing New Vegas when I called it a night. All gone the next time a booted up the game. Turns out, this was the most common problem New Vegas players had until it was finally fixed three days after launch.

After that, I still ran into more glitches than my time in the Capitol Wasteland. The experience as a whole certainly was worth it, but the technical problems were a fucking nightmare. The truth of the matter is Obsidian is the king of broken games Obsidian and Bethesda share the crown of shitty QA conduct, okay?

 

[Knight Templar]

More fallout? Yay. A little wary of Bethesda since they were trying so hard to make the game so very fallout in 3 and failed so very hard, but the game was still amazing.
And since we're over on the east cost there's no danger of retcons or similar issues.

Your opinion. Just like it's my opinion that Fallout 3 spits in the face of the canon.

This isn't D&D, so I don't think matters of canon are up left up to opinion

 

[piinyouri]

If it's true, cool.


I'll be buying it regardless of the setting, or any announcements short of DRM.
Just not for the PS3.

 

[Aaron Foltz]

Fallout: Detroit.

It's already shit central and less than an hour away from me.

 

[Mortons4ck]

Dare I say it I am fed up of the US cities...go somewhere I know a little closer to home...Cardiff maybe...or OK maybe London would work better.

Either way I am sure it will be a sweet game but I am sure if I ever went to washington or vague the last 2 games would have been a lot more interesting to me full of the oh god I remember that etc...as they stand they are just ruined cites

Having a FallOut outside of the U.S. would be like having the Doctor be an American in his next incarnation, mate.

 

[Saviordd1]

-OH DEAR GOD THE IGNORANCE-

Apparently I know more about it then you.

You said CIVIL WAR (That event that happened from 1861-1865, you know, big war, lots of death)
and then you said tea party (That event where BRITISH COLONISTS threw tea overboard from a boat...88 years BEFORE the civil war)
No; that is some messed up logic, you mention civil war, then bring up something more related to the American Revolution!
I mean...WUT, that makes no fucking sense.
I might as well mention the fucking Napoleonic Wars in relation to World War 2, because, hey, they both involved Europe as a battleground right? I mean sure they were fought over totally different reasons in totally different time periods, but hey, they're both part of Europe's history.

I mean, to be this ignorant, you'd have to either A: Not know the differences in American History AT ALL or B be trolling. Neither one is good, especially if you live in the USA.

Okay, and as for Bethesda helping with the creation of New Vegas, sure, they authorized the story, gave them resources and...that's about it.

You know at the time Bethesda was deeply busy with making Skyrim right? Their help in development was extremely limited if existant at all, they sure as hell didn't help pick the setting (As Bethesda has a thing for the East Coast) they sure as hell didn't write the story (The story writing styles are totally different) and they sure as hell didn't make the atmospheric choices.

You are WRONG, you are speaking out of your ass on American history and have no idea what your saying about game development.