Just a Rumor: Fallout 4 is in Boston

[Saviordd1]

Fallout: Detroit.

It's already shit central and less than an hour away from me.

Is it REALLY that bad? I've never been but the rumors can't be that true can they?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Here is hoping they get someone other than Bethesda to write the game. Like Obsidian.

Here's hoping that Bethesda has more input in the game this time and doesn't allow Obsidian to fuck it up with invisible walls at every corner and shitty containment excuses in game.

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Seriously fuck the bomb-collar. While interesting it just made navigating the Sierra Madre irritating as fuck.

OT: Should be interesting. I really want to see more of the East side of America again, I want to be able to see how that's progressed on a larger scale than just the ruins of Washington. Something like a larger version of the Pitt with a fresh and interesting story would be perfect.

I said writing, not developing. Bethesda are shit writers, but they are really good at making interesting places to explore. Obsidian are excellent at weaving narrative with game mechanics.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Fallout: Detroit.

It's already shit central and less than an hour away from me.

Is it REALLY that bad? I've never been but the rumors can't be that true can they?

You know how Robocop was set in a dystopian Detroit overrun by gangs and in a state of disrepair? It could have been set in modern day and looked exactly the same, minus death robots

 

[Gitty101]

Any Fallout 4 news is good news, even if it is just a rumor.

Could be a very interesting and different take on the 'new age' Fallout titles so far. No longer on the fringes but actually in the Commonwealth. Lots of government toys to play with. Sounds like fun no?

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

I said writing, not developing. Bethesda are shit writers, but they are really good at making interesting places to explore. Obsidian are excellent at weaving narrative with game mechanics.

I like to think they improved a bit in Skyrim but they're still nowhere as good at writing as Obsidian, add to that the fact that Obsidian is composed of some of the original Fallout developers and you have little to no reason not to choose Obsidian over Bethesda. Damn, now I want even more Fallout 4 details and rumours.

 

[War Penguin]

Here is hoping they get someone other than Bethesda to write the game. Like Obsidian.

Here is my hope: Obsidian writes the story and characters, as well as implement good and lovable companions, but Bethesda does the sidequests and designs the wasteland and its intricacies.

Best of both worlds.

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

I'm excited about the prospect of a new Fallout game but not excited about it taking place in Boston.

I mean, I'm not against it being set in Boston, it just doesn't do anything for me. I'll play it and love it but the setting will just be a window dressing.

 

[Gabanuka]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

Boston is one of the few American cities I've been to and I dont know, seems a bit too open for a Fallout game, like an odd mix of F3 and NV. We'll see, at least it means they can play around with the whole historical aspect.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

How bout Canada, HUH? What the FUCK is wrong with CANADA!? GRAAUUUGGHGH


Boston would be interesting

 

[A Satanic Panda]

So FO3 did the Korean War parallel, New Vegas did the Vietnam War parallel, and now FO4 will do the Civil Rights Movement parallel. Dear god... History is repeating itself already. War never changes.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

I was hoping for Fallout: Australia... but as a New Englander who HATES driving in Boston, I'd love to see it get the post-apocalyptic treatment. So... it gets this Fallout fan's approval.

 

[freakonaleash]

Boston is boring. Fallout Des Moines!!!!!

 

[snekadid]

Here is hoping they get someone other than Bethesda to write the game. Like Obsidian.

i don't know, i perfer games that eventually get fixed. That and obsidians history of releasing unfinished games<I don't care what the excuse, they were released half done and can only be judged by the work handed in> means i am far from a fan of the company.

 

[Rock Beefchest]

Fallout: Detroit.

It's already shit central and less than an hour away from me.

Is it REALLY that bad? I've never been but the rumors can't be that true can they?

"hey lay off Detroit, they are living in Mad Max times up there"

Internet cookie for the reference.

I think that NYC would be a better alternative just for the fact that is is such a massive city that is completely full of landmarks that the entire world can recognize.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

So, here's hoping it's actually post-apocalyptic, unlike the last one.

Oh right because nothing says "fun" like no progress EVER.

And gamers say they're sick of copy-pasted games.

I'm of the mind that there are two groups of Fallout Fans. The ones that started with the old games, and understand the core themes of rebuilding and black humor of the originals, and those that started with Fallout 3, and were treated to a more traditional apocalypse scenario.

I prefer to move into a new age rather than wallow in the wreckage of what came before.

Pre-war America was a festering shit hole that made Africa look good. Every city was a ghetto. Everyone was starving. Inflation was through the roof. The military itself was starting to rebel.

Bethesda does the old "America is a utopia lost" crap that only appeals to nationalists who post "rallies" to rebel against the liberal government and stockpile guns by the crate-load. At least the old games knew America sucked, and didn't pander to American egos.

If the world really was that good, the bombs would have never had dropped.

Trying to stick to a dead wasteland, sitting around whacking off to the idea that "ooooh America was the best" is stupid. Especially if the entire history of fallout points to this fact.

Why do I get the idea that you never finished Fallout 3? The only people in that game who claimed that America was a grand ol' place to be are the goddamn Enclave (Ya know, THE BAD GUYS!) the people who listen to their broadcasts, and a bunch of propaganda posters! The only people besides them who have ANY knowledge of America are a historian that has most of his facts wrong, 3 Dog who has nothing but distaste for the museum that has something he needs, and ghouls who have other things to worry about!

Seriously, I have NO idea where you got the idea that the game was some celebration of America, and the fact that you DID does not bode well for you.

 

[Therumancer]

To be honest I hope they stop screwing around geographically to be honest, though that's a bit too much to ask. Part of what makes this work is the idea that the world was decimated and pretty much everything else is dead beyond these little pockets rising up. If they start showing life/hope/socieities in the aftermath of the apocolypse everywhere it destroys the entire point of this kind of setting. This is one of the big reasons why I have been so vocal about Fallout not going to other countries outside of the US, as much as people there would like to see themselves surviving to some extent, it kind of defeats the point of the setting.

Going to the East Coast where I live (I'm in Connecticut, but Boston isn't that far away) is kind of a joke because to be honest this is one area that would be totally decimated beyond the point of recovery, indeed the coast line would probably be pushed back so far that most of these states on the east coast would be underwater (a point that many post apocolyptic writers that know what they are doing don't forget). Don't get me wrong, on some levels seeing my own home survive would be nice, but I know that's not practical or appropriate, I can't criticize others without accepting the same thing myself.

The reason why the East Coast would be decimated is simply put naval power, which is one of the big strengths of the US. This is where we manufacture and base a lot of our nuclear submarines (despite the efforts of certain presidents), not to mention Connecticut being where the Coast Guard Academy is located (where I live in fact). Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusets, New Hampshire, all dead. To have any hope of beating the US in any kind of war your going to have to get biblical with this area, and to be honest with a lot of the technologies involved for missle interception and such your going to have to break the east coast to get anything (missles, planes, etc..) further into the country, and to do that is pretty much going to mandate hitting it with so much crap that your basically going to saturate the defenses and pretty much sink the entire region. There has been a bit written about it, and you'll notice what this part of the country looks like on most post apocolyptic maps.

Basically, having Boston of all places survive is pretty much insane. DC was pushing it, but I could vaguely see that possibility based on location depending on how much was left and actually got past the coastlines and other defenses en-route. Places like Vegas surviving are more reasonable because they are out in the desert, and don't really have much in the way of strategic value. Vegas presents no real threat, where a lot of the states of New England pretty much have enough firepower based there to end the world ten times over.


That said, I hope Bethesda and Obsidian work out a compromise. I think Obsidian should do the writing and basic game structure design, and Bethesda should actually build it. Bethesda produces a lot of bugs but makes more solid games than Obsidian in a technical sense, but when it comes to ideas and writing, Obsidian has it all over Bethesda. We won't see this version of the series live up to it's potential if we keep having to deal with either/or situations.

As far as real world political analogies go, I think there is some referential black humor, but people who make such comparisons are reading a LOT more into it than is intended.

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

Frankly, I don't care where it is, I just want guns that don't suck until you put 5 million points into them. Or better yet, give us more choice with actual rifles rather than giving us fucking nuke launchers.

 

[Saviordd1]

-You kill puppies with your horrible words-

NO, its not a simple miswording mistake, NO ONE calls the "American Revolution" a "Civil War" not even the British, both recognize it as the "Revolution" "Revolutionary War" "American Revolution" "War for Independence" or "United States War For Independence" had you called the Revolution the American Uprising or something, yes, it would be a simple miswording, but naming it something that NO ONE calls it is not a simple miswording, it is a full blown mistake that I could in NO WAY predict, especially since the American Civil War is called the "Civil War" so you calling it a Civil War would make me think of the American Civil War; don't pawn your mistake off on me when it is clearly mistake that would confuse ANYONE who knows history. (Seriously, its like Calling the war of the roses the Flower War)

And I won't even go into how wrong the generalization about the entire US Revolution being based around taxes is.

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I'm not sure if that's funny, or horribly horribly sad.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

-You kill puppies with your horrible words-

NO, its not a simple miswording mistake, NO ONE calls the "American Revolution" a "Civil War" not even the British, both recognize it as the "Revolution" "Revolutionary War" "American Revolution" "War for Independence" or "United States War For Independence" had you called the Revolution the American Uprising or something, yes, it would be a simple miswording, but naming it something that NO ONE calls it is not a simple miswording, it is a full blown mistake that I could in NO WAY predict, especially since the American Civil War is called the "Civil War" so you calling it a Civil War would make me think of the American Civil War; don't pawn your mistake off on me when it is clearly mistake that would confuse ANYONE who knows history. (Seriously, its like Calling the war of the roses the Flower War)

And I won't even go into how wrong the generalization about the entire US Revolution being based around taxes is.

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I'm not sure if that's funny, or horribly horribly sad.

I live in Ontario Canada. We usually refer to Windsor as part of Detroit that spilled over the river. The I went over the bridge. Windsor looked like paradise compared to the slum we saw.

 

[Saviordd1]

I live in Ontario Canada. We usually refer to Windsor as part of Detroit that spilled over the river. The I went over the bridge. Windsor looked like paradise compared to the slum we saw.

Yeah, I'll put that under "Horribly horribly sad"