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Hades said:
I have a feeling whoever decided to remove R&P genuinely didn't expect people to just post political topic on the Off Topic forum. Their reaction to finding out must have been amusing.
The people who decided to remove R&P are the same people who told site members to post politics in Off Topic:

https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/703.1056841-Religion-Politics-Forum-Closed-as-of-27-March-2019#24297434

No one posted about politics in Off topic until directed to do so. I am guessing they may be using the same framework some other gaming sites use that also have religion and politics merged with Off Topic as the reason for this. Some other sites just throw everything outside gaming into Off Topic like this and have done so for years and I am guessing that is what is happening here as well as they move to v2.

We are likely just spoiled by them catering to our fondness for having plate dividers so our food doesn't touch.
 

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Marik2 said:
shes going to come in and say things about the mods when she comes back from the void
Something something "SEE, the suspension proves I'm RIGHT about the bias and spitefulness!" while simultaneously ignoring the fact that calling the mods spiteful, and directly singling someone out and calling them a strong reason for whatever the problem is... is a bit of a dick move to do on both accounts.

Not that it has anything to do with one's personal choice of actions that lead to said suspension or anything
 

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I like how the minute I stop paying attention, R&P gets gutted, and people catch bans and suspensions left and right.

RIP to the homie Lunatic. RIP to the homie Saulene aka lil s aka Rage boner Brigade Commander. Gone but not forgotten(for another day I guess).
 

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They also say the squeaky wheel gets the oil, so it can go both ways.

Generally speaking though- having a go at mods generally only ever ends one way. It shouldn't really come as a surprise.
 

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So I just realised Saelune's current ban isn't the same one received in here, but an additional one straight after. This piques my curiosity- When a suspension ends, is the offender's forum health meter still in the red and easily tipped into another suspension? Or is it cleared, but a severe enough infraction can tip it straight back into suspensville again?
 

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Squilookle said:
So I just realised Saelune's current ban isn't the same one received in here, but an additional one straight after. This piques my curiosity- When a suspension ends, is the offender's forum health meter still in the red and easily tipped into another suspension? Or is it cleared, but a severe enough infraction can tip it straight back into suspensville again?
The forum health bar stays in the same place after the suspension ends, so yeah, any further infractions within six months will lead to at least another suspension, if not a permanent ban.
 
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When the site relaunched, the newly-returned and since-departed EiC Russ Pitts pledged "We?re leaving politics at the door." Despite that pledge, this site has become a political discussion forum with occasional game news. Used to be a site to come to discuss and share a love of games and geekdom, now it's been taken over by the left and is a place for progressive/leftist political ideology. The Escapist is no longer a place for escapism. The writing is on the wall, I feel it now deep down in my bones.

Despite the bustle of V2, the sense of community is gone, replaced with toxicity and divisive politics. It wouldn't even be as bad if open and honest discussion were permitted, but it isn't. Far from being welcoming, only one ideology is tolerated and anything else gets branded -phobic. There is an identity crisis on this site and has been from before R&P and even Wild West existed. It wants to be a family-friendly site, yet the audience are adults, not teens. It wants to be a games site, but allows political discussions. It permits discussion of political and religious issues, then warns and bans people for taking part. Site members are mature adults who are policed like kids, discussions of the most divisive topics are permitted but people are suspended and warned for joining them and the fun of games is fallen by the wayside.

Here is the site's own mission statement: "Escapist Magazine is an evolution in online media and community, where geeks of all kinds can watch, read, share, and contribute to everything fun ? our guiding reason for being."

But despite that, the *least* fun, most boring, most controversial, most divisive and toxic posts have overtaken it. I don't blame the mods, those who have sincerely done their best and kept this site alive voluntarily, but a lack of a direction or vision has turned this site into an unwelcoming political forum new members don't want to join. What happened to Lizzie Finnegan and her award winning reporting? The Unskippable videos that made us laugh and poked fun at absurd cutscenes? The badges and quizzes, even the red button...maybe it's just wider culture overtaking the site, but it's a tragic shame that this is what it's become. This site was my place to come to indulge my love of games for a decade, I think it's just force of habit now years later that I still visit.
 

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Dude, how are you surprised by this? The escapist forums have been the inbred child of tumblr and 4chan since at least 2010.
 

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An update:



Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
An update:



Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
Hah, yeah. As someone else said, they didn't close R&P, they closed Off-topic.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
An update:



Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
We love polluting the place with politics.
 

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Not caring about politics just means you have the privilege to not care.
 

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Saelune said:
Not caring about politics just means you have the privilege to not care.
Well that's a complete load... Nobody in these recent posts said they didn't care about politics. They only said they'd like it to be sectioned into its own place, like it used to be, so that we don't mix and merge types of discussion
 

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Drathnoxis said:
Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
Then make more Off-Topic threads: fill the forum with non-R&P discussion.

Not directed at you personally, but...

Be the change you want to see in the world, take responsibility for the content of your forums, etc. This is user-generated material. Why do so many people seem to think everyone else should be creating debate, and are unhappy when they aren't generating the "right" sort of stuff?
 

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Agema said:
Drathnoxis said:
Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
Then make more Off-Topic threads: fill the forum with non-R&P discussion.

Not directed at you personally, but...

Be the change you want to see in the world, take responsibility for the content of your forums, etc. This is user-generated material. Why do so many people seem to think everyone else should be creating debate, and are unhappy when they aren't generating the "right" sort of stuff?
Although, yes there are far more political discussions going on and more people participating in them at present, Our new editor let us know they were going to be focusing on games and movies, so it makes more sense with the theme of the site to make a film and television subforum than a R&P subforum taking what he said into consideration. Of course they could make a "real life" subforum to discuss all current events including R&P and whatever else is happening in the real world if they really want to "escape from reality" in Off Topic due to so many real events tying into politics as well due to the reality of the world we live in. But I dunno, it may just be easier for them to have less subforums to police overall, I am not sure what their planned layout is or whether it would be feasible in the first place.
 

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Just to let everybody know, this month's feedback thread is over here:

https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/703.1057306-The-State-of-Escapist-Magazine-August-2019

So let your feedback be known.
 

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Agema said:
Drathnoxis said:
Can we PLEEEAAAASE bring back R&P? Off-topic isn't even usable anymore. At least when we lost Gaming Discussion to spam it was funny, this just makes me want to leave the site.
Then make more Off-Topic threads: fill the forum with non-R&P discussion.

Not directed at you personally, but...

Be the change you want to see in the world, take responsibility for the content of your forums, etc. This is user-generated material. Why do so many people seem to think everyone else should be creating debate, and are unhappy when they aren't generating the "right" sort of stuff?
R&P threads tend to move faster though, since people are caught up in more contentious arguments and keep coming back. Whereas other threads sink to the bottom because they don't generate as many arguments.

Saelune said:
Not caring about politics just means you have the privilege to not care.
I can hardly imagine that there are many people who's lives depend on constantly arguing about politics on some forum on the internet that's fading into obscurity. Half the people you argue with here don't even live in your country.

And even if one does care about politics, why is it required that one be constantly engaged with the topic. Is it so bad to have a place where people can get along with one another and discuss entertainment, ignorant of the fact that they may be ideological enemies? The site is called 'the Escapist' after all.