Just Cause Dev Claims PS4 Will Out-Power Most PCs For Years

[AT God]

My 3 year old PC is stronger than the PS4. I wonder if this statement is meant to apply to gamer's PCs or PCs in general. Getting high settings and solid 60fps on lots of games requires at least what the PS4 can put out.

If they are talking about all PCs like laptops, office workspaces, etc, then yes they are technically right and they are also trying to deliberately mislead people.

 

[Absolutionis]

I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

Which is virtually identical to saying it'll "outpower most PCs".

It's not really saying much with a large amount of notebooks out there being barely enough to (and used exclusively to) simply run MSOffice and Internet Explorer.

 

[crepesack]

Still buying a PS4. Ain't nobody can stop me.

 

[grigjd3]

The PC I assembled six months ago has 16 GB of a much faster RAM. After optimizing the run load, it tends to run extremely lean. The thing boots in 3 seconds and I am fighting dragons in Skyrim after only five more seconds (the main hold-up being logging into Steam's server). I also know my video card is more powerful than the chipset that will exist in the PS4. I think this guy is just desperately trying to hold on to the notion that his chosen platform will be dominant. It might be and I might be interested in a PS4 (after it's been out a while) but this reeks of fanboyism even more than the typical flame wars.

 

[ron1n]

Wow people are taking this personally ahaha

Yes this guy is talking out of his ass, yes the Ps4 is powered by a shitty AMD APU with shared memory, No It won't be 'more powerful' than whatever Mid-High end gaming PC you have.

Captain obvious to the rescue...fuck.

 

[Waaghpowa]

I think he means it will out power "The average PC" for years to come.

Which is virtually identical to saying it'll "outpower most PCs".

It's not really saying much with a large amount of notebooks out there being barely enough to (and used exclusively to) simply run MSOffice and Internet Explorer.

I still think it's needed because there are some people who will read it an instantly assume all.

 

[Rack]

My PC I bought earlier last year cost about $900 and has 8gb RAM an i5 2500 and a 560ti. It might just be able to handle PS4 ports in a years time at minimum settings at 640x480 if I'm happy with 15fps but in all practical terms is completely outpowered by the PS4. And yet I'm unlikely to upgrade for a few years at least.

Those are the kind of PCs he's talking about. With proper optimisation and a custom OS it might be able to match the PS4 but in the real world, no chance.

 

[ron1n]

My PC I bought earlier last year cost about $900 and has 8gb RAM an i5 2500 and a 560ti. It might just be able to handle PS4 ports in a years time at minimum settings at 640x480 if I'm happy with 15fps but in all practical terms is completely outpowered by the PS4. And yet I'm unlikely to upgrade for a few years at least.

Those are the kind of PCs he's talking about. With proper optimisation and a custom OS it might be able to match the PS4 but in the real world, no chance.

Which would be true, except when it gets to that stage, you have the opportunity to UPGRADE.

The reason his quote is so stupid is because he's claiming it will be dominant for 'Years to Come' assuming PC hardware isn't routinely advancing .

Heck, all you'd have to do to get your computer back well above required specs a year from now, would be to by a newer lower end GPU.

PS4 has no such evolutionary luxury.

 

[Rack]

My PC I bought earlier last year cost about $900 and has 8gb RAM an i5 2500 and a 560ti. It might just be able to handle PS4 ports in a years time at minimum settings at 640x480 if I'm happy with 15fps but in all practical terms is completely outpowered by the PS4. And yet I'm unlikely to upgrade for a few years at least.

Those are the kind of PCs he's talking about. With proper optimisation and a custom OS it might be able to match the PS4 but in the real world, no chance.

Which would be true, except when it gets to that stage, you have the opportunity to UPGRADE.

The reason his quote is so stupid is because he's claiming it will be dominant for 'Years to Come' assuming PC hardware isn't routinely advancing .

Heck, all you'd have to do to get your computer back well above required specs a year from now, would be to by a newer lower end GPU.

PS4 has no such evolutionary luxury.

Well, there's a chance the PC will need a RAM upgrade to keep up, meaning a motherboard upgrade and 8gb on a PC may prove woefully insufficient, you need 4gb to keep up with the PS3s 512mb after all. Even if that isn't the case I won't necessarily buy that new graphics card and that's what will keep the PS4 ahead. If I wanted a more powerful PC it's extremely unlikely I won't be able to get one but I won't have the motivation to do so until there's an absolutely killer app. That'll be a few years most like.

 

[Shilefin]

Oh wow. I'm starting to think that console-oriented devs *want* PC gamers to think they're technically unsavvy. A new generation is good news for everyone, but the PS4, even before its release, can be compared optimistically to a decent, mid-to-high end PC. Not to mention the fact that PC's have much more possibilites and upgrade rapidly. Just stop giving PC enthusiasts reasons to look down upon you guys. Please.

 

[Colt47]

The PS4 will outpower more than 50% of PCs, regardless of specs. A PC with similar specs to the PS4 will be easily outpowered by it. Yes, a mid-high end gaming PC will be able to run games much better, with more graphical flourishes, but out of the huge numbers of PC's in the world, I reckon these gaming PC's will be a fairly low percentage of them. Therefore the PS4 WILL outpower most PC's.

That was a true statement back a few years ago, but given the architecture and the power difference between the intel and AMD processors this isn't going to be the case with the current generation of consoles, at least in regards to gaming rigs. What will be the case is that the the PS4 will run smoothly and be able to handle games at much better level than the previous generation ps3. There likely will be a 60 fps standard on games for the next five or six years on the ps4 post release.

Every generation people say that finally developers will forgo effects for IQ and FPS, but we already have the Killzone devs saying that an exclusive launch title will be running at 30 FPS [http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/killzone-shadow-fall-demo-runs-at-30fps-digital-foundry-tests-suggest/]. To be honest, that's why I don't take stock of the fact that consoles will be superior because devs can target the specs exactly; it's technically true, but they'll end up targeting pretty explosions instead of the boring parts of visuals like resolution, framerate, and AA.

...So the developers got what they wanted, and they are going to continue doing the 30 fps treatment? After having things run at 60 fps trying to go back to 30 fps generates migraines (and I mean that quite literally).

 

[Griffolion]

Well, since my PC already out-does the PS4, I guess I'm not in the "most" category.

Also, please don't insult Intel, Nvidia and AMD by thinking they're not going to come up with some spectacular advances in the future, even for low to mid range PC's.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

In other news, Linus Blomberg was seen at the bank cashing a large check with the Sony logo in the corner.

 

[CriticalMiss]

Calculators are computers and there are lots of those in the world. So yes, the PS4 is more powerful than calculators. Gaming is safe for another generation.

 

[fix-the-spade]

To be fair, there is a big difference between DDR5 and DDR3 (you probably have the latter).

It's using GDDR5 rather than true DDR5, which doesn't exist yet.

It's essentially DDR3 but with faster timings and higher voltages for use in graphics processing. Strictly speaking 8GB of it is a hell of a lot (a 7990 only has 2x3GB for example), but it's going to be system memory as well, so it's not a massive amount by current standards.

 

[DeaDRabbiT]

Console can no longer compete so now they are playing catch-up by trying to mirror the PC.

Haha, it seems like you might require some NPD numbers to show you how the consoles "Can't compete"

I'm sure there are quite a few reasons that aren't readily apparent for software sales on console lagging, but after the hardware revision it will again be PC "trying" to compete.

 

[Giyguy]

it'll out power a pc, but it won't out sell PCs.

i think that's all that needs to be said.