How can you decide to make a choice if you don't think that choice is there? That's absurd.DVS BSTrD said:Remember what I said about power being a trick? And just because you don't realize you have a choice doesn't mean it isn't there. I KNOW I have a choice.Hazy992 said:They weren't told to kill the person, they thought it was a learning experiment. The guy in a lab coat makes them feel they HAVE to continue. They don't want to but they're being manipulated into thinking they have no choice.DVS BSTrD said:Either you "kill" the guy or you don't: I don't see how it could BE any more black and white!Hazy992 said:Have you actually looked at the Milgram experiment? How do you explain what happened in the confines of 'they were just taking the easier option'?DVS BSTrD said:No, you're just taking the less painful/easier option.Hazy992 said:Again not that simple. If you're being coerced then it's not exactly your choice anymore is it? You're being forcedDVS BSTrD said:Coercion or not, it's ALWAYS your choice. Authority only has meaning if you decide it does.Hazy992 said:Its not quite as simple as it being a difficult choice, Milgrams study basically suggest that most people will feel coerced into it because it's an authority figure.DVS BSTrD said:It's not easy, but you still make the choice to obey.Hazy992 said:INB4 Milgram experiment
But yeah that experiment shows that it's not as easy ad you think to just say no to an authority figure even if you want to.
"Power resides where men think it resides. It's a trick. A shadow on the wall."
You're looking at this too black and white
You're also coming at this with the assumption that people consciously and rationally make every decision which isn't the case. In a situation like this rationality is the last thing to come into play. They'll have been confused and thought they had to without being able to consider consequences.
It's easy to judge them for this but you have no idea how you'd react in a similar situation.
And unless you live in anarchy power is not just a trick. It has consequences