Justin Beiber sued for $9million

[lacktheknack]

Wow, less Justin Bieber hate than normal. I guess his voice-plummet fixed things.

Anyways, I do question the girl's decision to go to a Justin Bieber concert unprepared. It seems more like self-harm than anything. A friend of mine asked if I wanted to take her to the JB concert the same day I read that the RUMOR that he MIGHT arrive in Sydney two days early resulted in nine girls taken to the hospital (eight with hyperventilation, one with A BROKEN KNEE). I turned her down, as I figured from that story that I'd be trampled to death and the last thing I ever heard would be a chorus that all of the harpies of legend combined couldn't match. If I HAD gone, and suffered hearing loss, I'd blame myself.

 

[Ryan Hughes]

First off: The woman is not going to get 9 million dollars. She and her lawyer are high-balling the case in order to force an out-of-court settlement. Tinnitus is usually something that occurs over time, if I recall correctly, one of the band members of "The Who" actually has the condition from the prolonged exposure to his own concerts. Sometimes, loud explosions can cause permanent Tinnitus, like a bomb or artillery on the battlefield, but in order to win in court, the woman would have to prove that is was -specifically- this concert that caused her Tinnitus and not something else.

On the other hand, it has been a long standing legal fact that when you purchase something, you have every right to assume that using that product in a responsible manner will not harm you. Tobacco manufacturers have skirted this with heavy legal spending, and McDonald's won their cases against people claiming that their food caused obesity by claiming that the McDonald's corporation does not encourage people to eat their food every day. But, in this case, showing up at a concert can be assumed to be a "responsible use" of the purchased product, i.e. a ticket.

So, if she can prove that her Tinnitus stems from that concert, and she was not doing anything like putting her ear to the speaker, then she can win the case. Even so, it is unlikely the judge will allot the full 9 million, rather, payment for permanent medical services and a much smaller punitive sum.

 

[Nouw]

She should have known better because she was going to a concert, a Justin Bieber concert at that too. Expecting to leave with your hearing undamaged is just plain silly when you're not wearing any ear-plugs.

 

[the_green_dragon]

Don't concert tickets usually have some sort of disclaimer on the back, protecting from exactly this?

I think some even suggest u bring ear protection. That lady is gonna be fighting an uphill battle to get anything

I'm laughing cause it's Justin Bieber but in all honestly, good for him for being successful.

 

[Callate]

We'll have to ban Bieber. He's a menace. Ah, well, can't be helped.

Seriously, though, I wouldn't expect the case to make it very far. It's unfortunate that the woman is suffering this way, but it's a fairly predictable risk of attending a rock or pop concert; some people bring ear plugs to such occasions for just such a reason.

 

[Rule Britannia]

She'll probably end up with coverage of treatment costs and a small ammount of compensation, 9 million is way too much.

I hope he loses the money, just because he's Justin Bieber .

 

[Hawkolf]

Things like these are the exact reason I'd never be brave enough to live in America. Someone would sue me while tripping over something while robbing my house...
Just like that coffee thing, you're talking about the Liebeck, right? She put the coffee between her legs, opened it and then spilled it all over herself. Way I see it, it was completely and utterly her fault. Coffee might have been little hotter than usual but it was her fault for deciding to pour it on herself. I could see if she would've dropped the cup because of the heat but she was just clumsy. I would love to see someone trying to make a lawsuit like that in Finland. Judge would laugh it off.
Same thing with this woman. It's obvious how much screaming there would be at the Justin Bieber concert. She could've gotten ear plugs but she didn't. Not Bieber's fault. There's something really wrong about justice if lawsuits like these get through on regular basis.

 

[Charli]

Allowed herself to be taken to a Beiber concert without viciously punching the person who dared suggest it. Not too impressed by this women just on her own Merits.

Know what garbage is, and avoid it like it has the lurgy.

Just like when my dog thinks it's a great idea to roll around in a mud puddle I'm not too impressed by this lady's foresight.

 

[DugMachine]

Is it bad that the whole time I watched that video I kind of wished it would break and fall into the crowd...

 

[Tippy]

Wrong. Her ear damage had very little to do with the speakers or Beiber's gondola.

Let me tell you a story - I was once unfortunate enough to stand amongst ~20 women when their heart throb (who will go unnamed) passed by and caused them all to scream in unison. I don't know if any of you have heard a girl scream at their maximum possible volume at close proximity. I mean rape-level volume (they can't possibly get louder than that...can they?). It's not just the volume, it's also the extremely high pitch. Multiply that by 20 and that's what my ears got. I was partially deaf for a full two days (constant ringing, couldn't sleep) before I finally started hearing normally again.

Now multiply that by 5,000 and you basically get a Beiber concert - the girls are there for Beiber, not his music. Add in the volume coming from the music itself and you're probably getting a constant 70-90db and spikes of 120-150db which, if you have sensitive ears and aren't wearing plugs, can hurt your eardrums potentially beyond repair.

Remember, a woman's scream is their greatest weapon and for a very good reason - it is loud as fuck and extremely shrill. History has shown more than enough proof of this. Maybe nature equipped them that way or something (damn you nature!).

FYI ear damage can happen in any concert...and while what Beiber did wasn't the smartest thing, this is NOT his fault. It's the woman's fault for attending the concert without knowing the consequences of being around his screaming fangirls. It must've made a heavy metal concert sound about as loud as a hair dryer.

Joke time!
A true Beiber fangirl would take the permanent ear damage as a BLESSING (from Beiber himself!), not as something to sue him over.

 

[AMMO Kid]

Just as I was starting to think that we were going to run out of reasons to sue one another in this country... Oh well, she deserves some form of compensation for that. You only have two inner ears you know.

 

[AngloDoom]

Wait, what? Justin Beiber is being sued because people saw him and screamed loudly?

That seems a little unreasonable.

 

[lacktheknack]

Add in the volume coming from the music itself and you're probably getting a constant 70-90db and spikes of 120-150db which, if you have sensitive ears and aren't wearing plugs, can hurt your eardrums potentially beyond repair.

For comparison, 150 dB is louder than a jet engine at 100 feet. That may seem like a fair distance, until you actually are that close when it starts up.

It's also freakishly close to a shotgun blast, except longer and higher pitched. It's only ~30 dB from killing your hearing instantly, and 44 dB from being the loudest sound you can possibly hear.

That means that a screaming stadium full of women is about to a power saw what the loudest sound possible is to the screaming stadium full of women.

 

[Slayer_2]

She knew the risks, if she didn't, she's really stupid, and I hate to say it, but she deserves it. Not like all the money in the world will stop the ringing, only time will do that. Greedy fucking American trying to grab money any way she can. These frivolous lawsuits are laughable, only in America would this be considered for more than the millisecond it takes to laugh at her. Even though I'm not at all a JB fan, I dislike these stupid people and their petty lawsuits more than all his music combined.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

Justin deserves any shit he gets. I lost all respect for him when he sort of implied that everyone who gets raped deserves it.
*Clarifying*
You probably have heard his stances on abortion. He thinks it's sinful and terrible. An interviewer asks him "What about rape?"

He says "Well I'm real sorry for you, but everything happens for a reason"

WOW.
Uh...
Given that he's heavily, heavily Christian, and there have been cases in Christianity where rape was used as punishment for sins, the feeling I got from that is that justin thinks god decided for you to get raped, because well, fuck you.

What an asshole. And that's also ignoring just the way he trivialises rape in that interview. Fuck him.
Note, I'm not one of those people who hates all boybands/tweenage dream people. I have nothing against one direction for instance, I just think their music's shit. I don't think they deserve any hate.
Justin on the other hand....
Eugh.


But 9 million for ear damage? Seems a bit excessive.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

What kind of idiot goes to a concert without earplugs and expects to walk out without a ring in their ears?
What kind of idiot goes to a Justin Bieber concert without earplugs?
What kind of idiot goes to a Justin Bieber concert?
Justin Bieber is an idiot.

Fixed that for you.

Fixed it even better.

Maximum fixage achieved. [footnote]In all seriousness, I don't actually have a problem with the guy, but bandwagons are fun.[/footnote]

Anyway, the topic: 9 million dollars for a whooshing sound? Yeah, that's insane. I mean, it's crazy that a Bieber concert can generate the kind of sound, but it's not really his fault.

Also, that heart-gondola was the silliest thing I have ever seen.

 

[Yopaz]

This is like that American lady who sued McDonalds because she split her warm coffee on herself and it burnt her because you know coffee is warm, well no shit Sherlock who would have thought it, coffee that is hot? I know we have to stick to the letter of the law and stuff but where did common sense go? Sad thing is she'll probably get a decent size of money out of this which is a shame even if it is Bieber, yeah my hate of whiny bitches trying to get something for nothing is greater than my hate for Beiber, never would have thought it.

Actually that case was won for an entirely different reason. McDonalds had been making coffee so it would be too hot to drink right away to make sure people wouldn't get a refill right before they were leaving. Since this is not illegal the judges jumped on this opportunity to give them some punishment for a sleazy business tactic.

OT: It's a concert... I thought everyone knew about the dangers of loud sounds and how you have to take actions yourself in order to protect yourself from loss of hearing when you decide to go to one. I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere.

 

[exessmirror]

Add in the volume coming from the music itself and you're probably getting a constant 70-90db and spikes of 120-150db which, if you have sensitive ears and aren't wearing plugs, can hurt your eardrums potentially beyond repair.

For comparison, 150 dB is louder than a jet engine at 100 feet. That may seem like a fair distance, until you actually are that close when it starts up.
you know 180 db is 10 times as loud as 150 db right?
It's also freakishly close to a shotgun blast, except longer and higher pitched. It's only ~30 dB from killing your hearing instantly, and 44 dB from being the loudest sound you can possibly hear.

That means that a screaming stadium full of women is about to a power saw what the loudest sound possible is to the screaming stadium full of women.

 

[Jonluw]

Question: What idiot goes to a concert without ear plugs and expects to walk out without a ring in their ears?

Also the tinnitus, or just the ring in your ears in plain English, goes away after a few days, a week at most and it's almost quiet again. Nothing to claim damages about. And that's from my experience of a pretty heavy blow to the head right on my ear that instantly made everything sound like it was underwater. Music should be less bad.

Tinnitus may very well be permanent.
I personally know a drummer with permanent tinnitus.

OT: If the tinnitus is permanent, I hope she gets some money, but 90 million is an unnecessary amount.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Actually, depending on how loud the sound and where she was in the crowd she could get permanent hearing damage, so if her hearing was damaged because of that thing then she might have a case.

She has permanent hearing damage. The ring in your ears is caused by tiny parts of your hearing dying.

And she still doesn't have a case, because everybody with at least half a brain knows that sounds at concerts can be loud enough to do that to you. The woman knew that or should've known that, neglected to take any precautions, and now seeks to blame someone else for her own mistakes.

That's not how it works.

Although, it is the US. Whether or not she has a case totally remains to be seen. Sometimes the more ridiculous a case is, the more chance it has in the US.

Never said she has a case, just might and will probably get something out of it since for some reason that's how it works here.

I seriously doubt she will win though since she should've known better, but hey, some people are just special little ducklings.