Kansas may halt cursive education
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some of theses people are gonna meet a harsh reality when they hit that university professor who only accepts work written in cursive and who only writes in it, there always is one...
i for one think it should remain being taught, it is important, and to people who arent typographers and english teachers...
i for one think it should remain being taught, it is important, and to people who arent typographers and english teachers...
I'm European (Swedish), and beyond my signature I haven't used cursive... in the last 15-or-so years, maybe? We may have had a few assignments in high school that required cursive writing, but nothing since then.PhunkyPhazon said:
EDIT: I'm going to a college/university now, after years of trying to figure out what I want to do with my life, and all assignments are handed in digitally, because it's much easier for everyone involved.
I stopped writing in cursive as soon as I started secondary school. I preferred to write without the letters joined up, I don't see what the issue is.
If it was halting handwriting altogether that'd be something completely different.
That said, waiters and waitresses get paid more than in America due to minimum wage laws we have. So they are still getting what is considered a reasonable wage without a tip.
If it was halting handwriting altogether that'd be something completely different.
In the UK it largely depends. Some places (normally restaurants if you have eight or more people in the group) tend to automatically add a "service charge" to the bill as standard. If they do that then tipping is not considered necessary. Otherwise 10% of the bill is considered polite, and is generally expected.Sidney Buit said:
That said, waiters and waitresses get paid more than in America due to minimum wage laws we have. So they are still getting what is considered a reasonable wage without a tip.
I've left classes because of utterly stupid requirements and demands, at one point raising my hand in a class during orientation (first day) to be excused - I then walked to the guidance councilor and asked to be transferred to a different professor down the hall.neverarine said:
And, could you please illuminate for me: How is it important? Because it's fancy-looking? Because its heritage (English heritage, maybe, but in the United States we have as many German as English-decedents). I honestly have no idea why it could be considered important - its a mode of writing that does a poor job and is being naturally phased out.
I used to write in 'cursive' but I found it made my handwriting worse and just looked childish to me, so I now write in print.
I haven't noticed a significant drop in the speed of my writing but I certainly find it a lot easier to read. It also has the added bonus that when a form asks me to write in block capitals all I do to fuck up now is forget to put it in capitals.
I haven't noticed a significant drop in the speed of my writing but I certainly find it a lot easier to read. It also has the added bonus that when a form asks me to write in block capitals all I do to fuck up now is forget to put it in capitals.
I think a balance would be best, losing something like cursive would be bad, i needed it at uni when taking notes because i couldn't print fast enough to keep up and sometimes missed things (laptops weren't practical as the tables in the lecture halls were too small to sit them on)
I got made to learn joined up writing in Primary School as we were told we would need it in High School.
This was a lie, I spent my entirety of high school writing in my own, terrible handwriting, which did not involve joining up letters (but was more legible than my terrible handwriting WITH joined up letters).
Furthermore, in this modern day and age, the only time I need to write things with a pen are:
1. In my own notebook, for my own future perusal (ergo, handwriting is a waste of time).
2. Letters to my Fianceé(Who cares not a jot how bad my handwriting is, and is generally just excited that I still handwrite letters in this modern day and age).
3. Birthday/Christmas cards (As if anyone even reads them)
4. Filling out official forms (nigh on all of which state that my answers must be written in BLOCK CAPITALS).
So, yeah...
Cursive writing is a fucking waste of time. Good for you Kansas.
Now, ban creationism being taught in Science class.
This was a lie, I spent my entirety of high school writing in my own, terrible handwriting, which did not involve joining up letters (but was more legible than my terrible handwriting WITH joined up letters).
Furthermore, in this modern day and age, the only time I need to write things with a pen are:
1. In my own notebook, for my own future perusal (ergo, handwriting is a waste of time).
2. Letters to my Fianceé(Who cares not a jot how bad my handwriting is, and is generally just excited that I still handwrite letters in this modern day and age).
3. Birthday/Christmas cards (As if anyone even reads them)
4. Filling out official forms (nigh on all of which state that my answers must be written in BLOCK CAPITALS).
So, yeah...
Cursive writing is a fucking waste of time. Good for you Kansas.
Now, ban creationism being taught in Science class.
My lecturers all either didn't care whether it was joined-up, or required that assignments were produced on computer. This was 5 years ago. I find it difficult to believe that tertiary education has regressed since then.neverarine said:
Also, of all places, Kansas is in the lead of phasing out something archaic and embracing skills of the current and future world.Queen Michael said:
Are you talking about true cursive or about having a mostly joined up style? If you're talking about true cursive than I can agree with that, nobody writes 100% in joined up just for the sake of it, everybody develops their own style. The majority write in a mostly joined up fashion and as a result very few people print.J Tyran said:
I am also left handed and it mostly depends on what type of ink you're using as to whether you smudge, older fountain pens are probably the worst. Newer gel pen types don't smudge most the time. I also developed a rather slanted writing style to compensate for having my hand at an angle to avoid the ink while I was using ink pens as a child, which is what I revert to for speed. Like I said I can't comment on what the newest generation of children are being taught anymore, but for people roughly my age in their late teens and early twenties it is still considered the norm.
That may be as a result of my area or the fact that my secondary school was one of those faffing around kind of grammar schools with 400 years of history. All I can say is that what I am saying is true for the people around me and the people around those people I have asked.
The only thing I have ever had to do is sign my name in cursive and even that you can pretty much write whatever the fuck you want as long as your consistent about it.
Take cursive out and get kids typing. We have kids born AFTER the internet boom who still type with their indexes at 35 wpm. Its sad.
Take cursive out and get kids typing. We have kids born AFTER the internet boom who still type with their indexes at 35 wpm. Its sad.
Oh finally!senordesol said:
Cursive is a curse on teachers everywhere. It is useless, for one, but it is also VERY HARD TO READ.
Why are we even teaching a writing style that makes your writing more difficult to read? Why are we teachers making our student's homework harder to make out that it already is?
Typing classes and computer competency classes - word processors - e-homework. These are the ways of the future. These are the ways we'll get homework we can actually read.
So hooray for Kansas!
My experience with cursive was a nightmare... basically in the UK in years 5-7 we were expected to write in cursive, then and i'll never forget this shit in year 7 we had to write a book for a primary school child hand written.
BUT we were told we could not join up our letters and had to print everything now as i had been using cursive for 2 years this was incredibly hard to do and had to train myself not to join the letters.
The effects of this is my handwriting is now appalling some letters joined some not...
BUT we were told we could not join up our letters and had to print everything now as i had been using cursive for 2 years this was incredibly hard to do and had to train myself not to join the letters.
The effects of this is my handwriting is now appalling some letters joined some not...
It's not a bad thing. I was forced to write everything in cursive from Gr. 2-4 and I switched back to normal printing in Gr. 6. I don't know anyone that still writes in cursive except for calligraphy.
Someone clarify for me, is 'cursive' classed as:
1) Letters joined up and very slanted
OR
2)Most letters joined up, with little or no slant
Because the 1st I could understand getting rid off, it is hard to read, but the second is quicker for taking notes and generally doesn't look like a 5 year old is writing.
1) Letters joined up and very slanted
OR
2)Most letters joined up, with little or no slant
Because the 1st I could understand getting rid off, it is hard to read, but the second is quicker for taking notes and generally doesn't look like a 5 year old is writing.
The sad part is, it took me almost half a minute to figure out what this "cursive" thing is and why elementary school students were being taught about curse accounts.
OT: but how will they ever learn to sign their name on the waivers? It'll be legible! Think of the consequences!
OT: but how will they ever learn to sign their name on the waivers? It'll be legible! Think of the consequences!
As a Kansan: SWEET! I can say that I never really needed cursive. The only thing I used it for was signatures, and even then it eventually mutated into some handwriting that only I can write, but everyone can read. TYPING on the other hand has been very useful. Being able to type at 72 wpm is MUCH more useful than handwriting today.
I like writing, and typing, but I've never learned cursive and don't much care for it. It's unnecessary, and joined-writing can be learned on your own (as you scribble away to capture your history teachers every word). Better to focus on typing, or other skills.