If somebody pencils in Kanye on election day just because he ran a campaign for 1.5 weeks, I assure you, said person never had any intention of voting for [morally necessitated choice] this year.
Kanye West announces bid for president.
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Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why anyone is expecting him to pull any significant number of voters who weren't going to vote Libertarian or Green anyway if they're really didn't like the main two?
And the Libertarians and Greens aren't exactly pulling massive hauls despite actually being on the ballot in most state. Even with Trump vs. Hillary, both parties combined managed to pull less then 5% combined.
I just can't no more. I have been a fan of Kanye for a while. College Dropout, Late Regristration, and Graduation are albums I will look back a considered a pivotal part of youth. Hell I remember being little and seeing him come to my uncles parties selling his mixtapes and beats to people. But you have to draw a line in the sand.
Ever since his mom past he has gotten worse and worse and mix in a a cultural stigma against psychologist and mental health not being a thing in general when was growing up.
Now though his own choices are racking up and I feel more bad for his loved ones and their patience than him right now.
While he needs help, and definitely should sit down and shut up, I stopped feeling for him since 2010. 2016/17 is where I considered him dead for all I care.
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It's why i generally try to stay away from Kanye drama. Sure, it's funny to watch another trainwreck the man got himself into, but i feel like giving him attention only eggs him more into continuing with this nonsense, instead getting help.
Yeah, it's not even funny anymore, man legit looks like he's suffering some kind of manic episode and is losing his grip. 
He shouldn't be out there doing a doomed, disorganized probably pretend presidential run, he should be seeing a doctor!
...Ugh...I seriously hope that if I ever start to lose my mind, that I won't be so far gone that I'll be hostile to mental health specialists. We REALLY need to normalize getting help.
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He shouldn't be out there doing a doomed, disorganized probably pretend presidential run, he should be seeing a doctor!
...Ugh...I seriously hope that if I ever start to lose my mind, that I won't be so far gone that I'll be hostile to mental health specialists. We REALLY need to normalize getting help.
O O FThat typo could be viewed as a Freudian slip
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I'm assuming that in the USA as the UK, the standard for being committed is that someone must be a danger to themselves or others. Launching asinine presidential bids and ranting crazily about slave mentalities and all that isn't going to cut it. After that, someone's also got to want to improve, otherwise psychological treatment is likely to fail even if they get it.Yeah, it's not even funny anymore, man legit looks like he's suffering some kind of manic episode and is losing his grip.
He shouldn't be out there doing a doomed, disorganized probably pretend presidential run, he should be seeing a doctor!
He can inflict a lot of pain in the meantime. How awful for his daughter, to have her potential termination made public in a media frenzy that way; this could be family-destroying stuff. Probably the biggest (although not least deserving) loser will be Kanye himself, but he might need to fall in order to realise he has to fix himself.
Yeah, it's not even funny anymore, man legit looks like he's suffering some kind of manic episode and is losing his grip.
He shouldn't be out there doing a doomed, disorganized probably pretend presidential run, he should be seeing a doctor!
...Ugh...I seriously hope that if I ever start to lose my mind, that I won't be so far gone that I'll be hostile to mental health specialists. We REALLY need to normalize getting help.
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That's the thing, no matter how many times you going to tell him to go get help oh, he won't do it. Out of a vain attempt at narcissism and spreading "the word". what does not help either, and this has been said before, is that people keep enabling or encouraging him. Like I said before, he might as well already be dead.
Awwww, you changed it. I was going to make a bad jokeStupid Google speak.
Screw it, I'm going to do it anyway.
BrawMan: "...is dad to me."
Wait, Kanye West is you father?
Ahhhhhhhh, so much better
Whatever works for you. I know this is just a joke, but I'm serious when I say my father is a way better father and person than Kanye can ever hope to be. I'm glad I'm not related to that douchebag.Awwww, you changed it. I was going to make a bad joke
Screw it, I'm going to do it anyway.
BrawMan: "...is dad to me."
Wait, Kanye West is you father?
Ahhhhhhhh, so much better
That's likely in part because he's heavily insulated from consequences. Mostly by money, which can protect from a wide range of problems as well as afford management and entourage to deal with issues; also, one must presume, family (i.e. chiefly Kim).
If I remember rightly he's got bipolar disorder, so catching him in a bad manic phase is probably going to be shitshow at the best of times. He's also, I suspect, a somewhat megalomanic narcissist. That's a lot of problems to be carrying around, and I suspect having a status as a star (with the adoring fans, hirable yes-men) is not going to do wonders for keeping such people stable and grounded because they can so easily gratify their fantasies.
I already knew all the details. Plus, it's mentioned in the video I posted it. And there's nothing somewhat about it; Kanye is a full-blown megalomaniac narcissist who does not care for anyone aside from his ego.
You don't have to feel bad, having a mental disorder doesn't exclude a person from criticism for shitty behavior. And sure, while Kanye's problems might mainly stem from a chemical imbalance of some kind, the fact is he's still going out there and putting himself in the public eye, using his influence and platform, to push agendas. And that type of behavior, in my opinion anyway, doesn't give him a pass.
I'm probably biased on this subject, but that's because I lived for 30ish years, with an older brother who has schizophrenia, and possibly bipolar, who was a constant threat to my family. He openly threatened to kill me multiple times, because he was hyper religious as well (a common trend I've seen), and felt that the angels were telling him to do things. And he absolutely DID try and kill my mother and father. That was a fun night, let me tell you, coming back from a movie with friends at 19, to a house lit up by red and blue lights, and an ambulance outside my house, carting off my dad. Because my brother choked out my mom because she wouldn't give him his entire social security check at once (knowing he would blow it all on drugs and have nothing to subsist on for a month), and then when my dad pulled him off her. He started kicking my dad in the chest, who had had open heart surgery only a few months prior. Walking into the house, seeing the trail of blood and broken glass leading to the location of the fight, was a very fun time. Even after that, when he was out, there was the constant threat of him maybe just randomly showing up, manic as hell because he was off his meds, and maybe he'd actually kill one of us. I had to prepare myself personally, for the fact that I might have to kill my brother, to protect my mother.
And that's just one person, with mental disorder, and his direct impact on one family. I have no clue how many random people my brother might have terrorized when he would cycle between months of insanity and lucidity, but I know how it tore my family apart.
Kanye has a world wide platform to spread his insane bullshit. He couches his bullshit in religious trappings, because he knows people will excuse eccentricities of someone if they seem to be devoutly religious, as if that's an excuse. And there is a terrifyingly large % of voters, who will let their religious beliefs, dictate their voting choices.
So don't feel bad about making fun of him. He puts himself out there, for the world to see, and acts like a fucking fool and idiot. The fact that he's a mentally unstable fool and idiot, doesn't insulate him from criticism of his actions. Being crazy, doesn't excuse you from being an asshole. Your actions still impact the world around you, even if you aren't making those actions due to a rational mind.
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The other common trend I've personally seen regarding not seeking help, is if they have a heavily religious component to their disorder, they will often think they are "fixed" or "healed". They go to some church, have everyone pray for them, tell them that the POWAH OF GEEEEZUSSS!!! will heal them and all that shit, and they get that huge rush of endorphins of the crowd effect, and think they are fixed. So they don't need their medication anymore. And the idea that "the reason you feel normal again IS the meds" doesn't factor in their minds at all.
Also, to be fair, sometimes the medications needed to treat psychological issues, can have some really shitty side effects. My brother went through a pharmacy of different drugs back in the 90s and early 2000s, as they tried to nail down what was wrong with him, and find something that worked. And he had mixed results, but one common thing, for him at least, was that he had the bad luck of getting most of the side effects. And they would be some shitty things, in some cases literally. Bowel issues, cramping, gagging/vomiting sometimes, muscle twitches, etc. You name it, he probably ended up with them. So he had the choice of either take drugs to feel sane, but feel like shit in every other aspect of his body, or don't take the drugs, feel reasonably normal, physically at least, and let his mind go apeshit.
And it wasn't an easy choice for him. Still didn't excuse what he did when he would spiral down into insanity, but I can appreciate the pros/cons of that type of situation, might be too much for some people to manage.
Yeah. There are few classes of drugs so awful for side effects as antipsychotics: horrible drugs to be on. Around for 70 years, dozens and dozens of them available, and they're all grim. The main advance in that time has been for more modern ones to reduce the likelihood and severity of really, really bad side effects (motor dysfunction) at the cost of increased susceptibility to less bad but still unpleasant side effects (sexual dysfunction, weight gain, sedation, etc.)
Although Kanye would more likely do better with lithium or an anticonvulsant (as they can be effective for mania) rather than an antipsychotic. Even so, many people with bipolar don't like them, as they can suppress emotional range, coginition, and generally feel quite mentally deadening.