Could people please stop saying shit like this? It was one fucking guy. Since when does one person doing something become a general description of a group of people? By this same logic, we live in a world where gamers hunt down and kill people for killing them in a game.albino boo said:
Thing is, one is all it takes. If a kickstarted game falls through, and one guy decides to sue the company for effectively stealing his money, and some (idiotic) judge agrees with him, that's precedence. From the viewpoint of someone who doesn't understand how the development process works, and I think we can lump a large percentage of court overseers into this category, and given a bit of crafty wording by a lawyer, it can be made very apparent that this company took this man's money, promising a game in return, but did not deliver, hence thievery.wintercoat said:
Everyone except the FTC who agreed he had a point. I don't think it would ultimately be all that helpful if publishers couldn't lie blatantly and openly about the features of a game and instead had to lie sneakily but the FTC do and exist to enforce that line.wintercoat said:
It was a woman at the Better Business Bureau that stated that Bioware and EA were guilty of false advertising. And I agree, they are. However, this was not a case that needed federal attention. Filing with the FTC was moronic, and again a clear attention grab.Rack said:
Oh no! Consumers go through the correct means when products are falsely advertised! How dare they compromise artistic integrity by complaining when something was falsely advertised!draythefingerless said:
I really hope you're right, because I believe the Kickstarter method of funding won?t survive and I desperately want it to. I mean, I'm getting a proper bloody Shadowrun game out of it making Kickstarter the most awesome thing since Inception. How could I not love it?Shamus Young said:
lol so its ok now to sue people on subjective terms? learn what youre talking about buddy. im surprised youre complaining about the FCC thing, wich is the ridiculous thing, and not about the Retake movement, wich is a sane thing despite being a bit guilt ridden. hey i didnt like that i paid 2 euros for limbo and it ammounts to a shitty short game that i can play tons better for free on newgrounds. im gonna sue the guys who made it for falsely advertising a game with rich and deep complex themes, cause i didnt get that. sounds about right doesnt it? oh hey the new street fighter game was putting a character in one of its trailers for about 5 seconds, but that character isnt in the final game. SUE SUE SUEEEEEEE FOR MAKING DEVELOPMENT CHOICES THAT AFFECT ME. actually i remember people complaining that the trailer for SF4 overhyped the game and they felt let down that the final game wasnt so awesome. :/.Cry Wolf said:
Retake Mass Effect is a bit of a different thing, though I don't feel like getting into that.DrVornoff said:
I really have trouble believing most people don't understand the difference between backing a Kickstarter project and buying a game off the shelf (or Steam...or whatever). We'll see, though.Mygaffer said:
Oops, I should have looked into this more closely before posting, I hadn't grasped the relation between the FTC and BBB and had assumed the FTC was an equivalent to our ASA (Advertising Standards Authority). An ASA complaint of false advertising would be perfectly reasonable since that's exactly what it was but it seems the FTC is not the place for such complaints.wintercoat said:
