Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort
Dude, reading comprehension. "The mother of the bully recently went on Australian TV and said that she wanted her son to apologize to Casey." So the mother of the bully wants the bully to apologize to the bullied kid.
She knows her kid was picking on others and was wrong and wants her own kid to apologize. Also, the mother is right, nobody needs this kind of attention, bully or no. The kid got what was coming to him, it's on film, punishments were doled out. Now it should go away.


Edit: Whoops, I see now that there was a change in the article, but they didn't post an edit sign. Guess it did say that before, sorry.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
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Internet Kraken said:
I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.
Fact is, that "modern" society does not equate to a "peaceful" one. As someone who had been bullied before, the last thing I ever wanted to do was get in a fight, but you know what? I ended up getting into them.

Why? Because the school officials refused to do anything about it. It was the same way from Elementary through High School, if it didn't bother or affect them, they weren't going to do anything about it. I will almost 100% guarantee you that Casey had gone to the teachers, the principals, the counselors, and they did nothing.

And to be blunt, when it comes to little pricks, the only way to get anything through to them is through a piledriver to the ground.
The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

Think about it; when you support this kind of behavior, you are essentially saying violence is okay so long as you believe you are in the right. As a society we should be moving away from that mentality.
I would agree with you on one condition. If Casey had been walking down the hall, seen the kid who had been bullying him and decided it was time to pile drive him through the floor. But he didn't, he was attacked and defended himself. Was his action the best "civilized" solution for the situation? No. But it sure beats curling into a ball on the ground and simply taking it or running away and effectively inviting himself to be bullied even more.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort
OP fucked up the post. The mum of the bully wanted her son to apologize to Casey.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort
Yeah, the stupidity of it is making my brain ache. Lemme tell ya if that were my parents, they'd force me to watch the video of my ass-kicking over and over again.
 

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awesome! what a stupid kid attacking someone twice his size. bigger guys always have more control. he let him punch him in the face before he acted. the kid should get a medal for restraint!
 

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I'm all for self-defense and standing up to a bully when it's the last resort. I myself had to confront my own bully when ignoring him did nothing and asking the teachers wouldn't result in anything, when I didn't confronted him, he never bothered me again.

However, a kid of that size, he could have easily broken his fuckin' neck. I'm sure he didn't mean to hurt him like that, since he was in a short fit of rage, but I don't think this should be cheered or encouraged as much as it is.

He stood up for himself after who knows how long he was bullied, yay!

Possibly paralyzing or killing the bully, nay!
Might be my own past sneaking up on me, but I'd side with the bullied kid every day. Seriously, I wouldn't have mind if the bully was paralyzed/killed; it would've been his own damn fault for picking on other people.


And yes, ideally, we shouldn't solve our problems with violence, but kids are stupid. They will generally won't respond to reason or the pleas of the bullied kid, so they'll have to learn the hard way.
 

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Scott Bullock said:
Nimzar said:
Actually the mother wants HER son (the bully) to apologize.

News linky: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/bullied-boy-at-chifley-college-dunheved-campus-suspended-after-fighting-back/story-e6freuzi-1226023526921
Crud, you're right. The article I read that had that quote was less than clear about that, and I apparently mistook it for her telling Casey to apologize. My bad, I'll fix that up. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

To err is human, and all that.
Your not the only one who made the mistake. Several big news folks did the same. Just wanted to point it out.
 

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The degree to which Casey Haynes' actions were appropriate or inappropriate is debatable, but one thing cannot be debated. If someone had not had the malicious intent to cause him mental anguish and bodily harm, he would not have felt need to do anything.

As for the release of the video, I believe that to be absolutely the best outcome. Bullying is very personally directed and almost always hidden from teachers and parents alike.
 

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Nimzar said:
Actually the mother wants HER son (the bully) to apologize.

News linky: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/bullied-boy-at-chifley-college-dunheved-campus-suspended-after-fighting-back/story-e6freuzi-1226023526921
Thank God. If she actually wanted Casey to apologize I'd have been infuriated. Personally...I think good for "Little Zangief." I also love how the internet has turned this story of a relatively unremarkable school fight thing into a sensation.

Also...."Little Zangief"? Personally I'd have called him "Mighty Casey" to be honest.
 

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Veloxe said:
Internet Kraken said:
cursedseishi said:
Internet Kraken said:
I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.
Fact is, that "modern" society does not equate to a "peaceful" one. As someone who had been bullied before, the last thing I ever wanted to do was get in a fight, but you know what? I ended up getting into them.

Why? Because the school officials refused to do anything about it. It was the same way from Elementary through High School, if it didn't bother or affect them, they weren't going to do anything about it. I will almost 100% guarantee you that Casey had gone to the teachers, the principals, the counselors, and they did nothing.

And to be blunt, when it comes to little pricks, the only way to get anything through to them is through a piledriver to the ground.
The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

Think about it; when you support this kind of behavior, you are essentially saying violence is okay so long as you believe you are in the right. As a society we should be moving away from that mentality.
I would agree with you on one condition. If Casey had been walking down the hall, seen the kid who had been bullying him and decided it was time to pile drive him through the floor. But he didn't, he was attacked and defended himself. Was his action the best "civilized" solution for the situation? No. But it sure beats curling into a ball on the ground and simply taking it or running away and effectively inviting himself to be bullied even more.
Thing is no attempt was made to walk away or do anything of the sort. If he had moved and the kid pursued him I would agree. But he didn't and went straight to fighting instead. Again I don't blame the kid for this because it is very hard to resist such urges, however I really don't like that his violent behavior is being praised.
 

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I was bullied like this in school, verbal taunts at first and all that, then came the first punches to the side and shoves into the wall.

Suddenly I had enough, the last time I got bullied I punched him right on the jaw and he fell back and hit his head on the window sill. He ended up with a concussion and locked jaw.

Both my parents and my teacher said it was good job on my end. Been bullied for years. This was in 6th or 7th grade I believe.
 

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I only feel bad for the runt in one respect, he hath called down the wrath of the interwebz upon himself.
 

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Holy shit.

As someone who'd had this happen, and has done this before, You are a man now. So proud of this kid.

Nimzar said:
Scott Bullock said:
Nimzar said:
Actually the mother wants HER son (the bully) to apologize.

News linky: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/bullied-boy-at-chifley-college-dunheved-campus-suspended-after-fighting-back/story-e6freuzi-1226023526921
Crud, you're right. The article I read that had that quote was less than clear about that, and I apparently mistook it for her telling Casey to apologize. My bad, I'll fix that up. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

To err is human, and all that.
Your not the only one who made the mistake. Several big news folks did the same. Just wanted to point it out.
It happens. But hey, at least this one was nipped in the bud.
 

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By the way, this Kid could be related to the Epic Beard Man... http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/epic-beard-man
 

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MGlBlaze said:
Jamous said:
Wooooo! But seriously, what the hell did Ritchard Gale think he was doing? Dickhead. And you can tell his family are fucking idiots as well; Ms. Gale wants CASEY to apologise for her son being a dick? What the hell?!
Nimzar said:
Actually the mother wants HER son to apologize.

News linky: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident
The Escapist seems to have made a mistake on that one.

Matt_LRR said:
I have to side with penny-arcade [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/3/18/] on this one.

It is impossible to condone the pile-driver, especially since he came within about an inch of dropping the bully straight on his head and killing him, but it's equally impossible not to side with casey for striking back in a definitive way.

bully got schooled, bully deserved to get schooled. Im just really glad no one was seriously hurt, because it could easily have gone terribly wrong, and casey would undoubtely be facing charges if it had.

-m
Yeah, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. The whole thing has left me with fairly mixed feelings based on how many ways the pile-driver move could have gone wrong, but thankfully what could have gone wrong did not go wrong for once.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up. That is another thing to add in isn't it. -VERY- glad it didn't go wrong.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort
WRONG.

She wants HER kid to apologize to Little Zangief. Read more carefully, with less cynicism.

EDIT: Wait, did they edit the article afterwards?
 

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Yes but that doesn't work. Would it have possibly diffused the immediate situation? Ya, it's possible the bully might have taken his victory of punching Casey in the face and simply shouted insults at him as he walked again. But what does that do for Casey? If anything it just makes his situation worse because now the bully and his friends are going to simply spread it around the Casey is a chicken shit who won't defend himself. Like you posted in response to someone else, yes, fighting back (even if you beat the bully) doesn't mean that it will end the bullying and it could very well make it worse (revenge mindset of the bully and what not). But until such a time as this "civilized" system (the schools and the systems above the schools) allows for a meaningful outlet for the bullied it leaves them basically 2 choice: A) Simply live with the bullying/ignore it or B) Fight back.

I don't know how Casey's parents are handling the situation but I would hope, I imagine you would be similar in opinion here, that they are at least reminding their son that violence isn't always the answer and that he should always try to avoid the conflict instead of taking part in it.
 

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The larger Kid who comes in at the end and pulls the kid out of the way at the beginning, obviously had a apart in this. I would guess he told the little guy to do it because he had his back. I hope somebody other than the girl who steps in at the end "deals" with that ass before something like this happens again.

I hate little sh*ts like that.
 

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dragongit said:
Quickly! Hide this before Jack Thompson see's this and blames Video Games for teaching their kids violence! He's busy with the Shooter mod now! Quick quick!
cheers.

OT/P:
while i think that the main reason that this is viral is because a. it is fuckin hilarious, and b. the people who "rule" the netwaves, i.e. 4chan, were probably bullied as a kid because they were nerds, fat, skinny, etc. and can sympathize with the kid and give him the seat of honor.
(also, this has been out since at least monday, so what's the holdup?)