Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

[Internet Kraken]

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Ideally, the kid would opt to simply ignore no matter how difficult that might be. That really would be the best thing to do from a moral standpoint. However, as I have said multiple times before, I know this is very difficult to do, so I don't blame him for using violence.

I just don't like how people are praising this kid for beating someone up. He shouldn't be punished, but he should also be aware of the error in his ways. You're probably right, his parents have told him this. However a ton of people keep saying there is nothing wrong with him using violence and that is the problem I have with this.

 

[sumanoskae]

Ummm... good for him, I guess.

I fail to see what set's this incident apart from average school violence.

Good on the kid for standing up for himself, but is this really so novel as to inspire an entire thread?.

I guess the internet will make memes out of anything...

 

[Igen]

If I ever get the chance to meet Casey, Im going to get his autograph, and I will hand him all the money in my pocket. Bravo kid, bravo.

If I ever get the chance to meet Ritchard, the middle finger and some insults will do nicely. Insult to injury? In this case, hell yea.

 

[Sodoff]

Heh. I love Anonymous.

 

[juggalosqueaks]

Kudos to this kid. As someone who was bullied incessantly from the 3rd grade all the way into my junior year of high school I can easily empathise with him. Sadly, the only functional way of dealing with a bully is through brute force.

I recall in the 7th grade when a friend of my primary bully at the time called my late father a ****** to my face (my dad was in fact gay and he'd found out through word of mouth) I said to myself enough is enough and clocked him hard with a right hook. A security guard came over and asked what happened and he jumped to his feet and said "nothing, we were just talking." lol

Next year another of my main bully's friends picked a fight with me outside of school and we duked it out with me not knowing he had been training in the martial art since he was 5. I couldn't land a blow but he couldn't keep me down either so it ended in a draw but I guess he respected me after that or something 'cause he never bullied me again.

Later in the 10th grade some little freshman found it fun to bully me and I did my best to ignore him till he paid a friend to throw a pencil at my head in math class, resulting in a psychotic snap that ended with me being dragged off him by two jocks while he gasped for air after I just about strangled the life out of him. Suffice it to say he never spoke to me, much less bullied me, again.

Bottom line is you can go to authority figures who'll always give you the same response, "Oh, well we'll talk to him about it. In the meantime just try to ignore him." or you can do something about it. Bullys choose certain targets specifically because they know they won't fight back so fighting back is really the only functional solution short of waiting to graduate and yeah, he could have potentially done some serious damage to the scrawny punk but odds are even if he had and charges were pursued, they would be dropped on account of self defense (at least they would be here in the states, dunno aussie or UK laws).

Tl;Dr Well played, Zangief kid, Well played.

 

[lewiswhitling]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

Fact is, that "modern" society does not equate to a "peaceful" one. As someone who had been bullied before, the last thing I ever wanted to do was get in a fight, but you know what? I ended up getting into them.

Why? Because the school officials refused to do anything about it. It was the same way from Elementary through High School, if it didn't bother or affect them, they weren't going to do anything about it. I will almost 100% guarantee you that Casey had gone to the teachers, the principals, the counselors, and they did nothing.

And to be blunt, when it comes to little pricks, the only way to get anything through to them is through a piledriver to the ground.

The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

Think about it; when you support this kind of behavior, you are essentially saying violence is okay so long as you believe you are in the right. As a society we should be moving away from that mentality.

I would agree with you on one condition. If Casey had been walking down the hall, seen the kid who had been bullying him and decided it was time to pile drive him through the floor. But he didn't, he was attacked and defended himself. Was his action the best "civilized" solution for the situation? No. But it sure beats curling into a ball on the ground and simply taking it or running away and effectively inviting himself to be bullied even more.

Thing is no attempt was made to walk away or do anything of the sort. If he had moved and the kid pursued him I would agree. But he didn't and went straight to fighting instead. Again I don't blame the kid for this because it is very hard to resist such urges, however I really don't like that his violent behavior is being praised.

actually, he was quite clearly paralyzed with nerves. You can tell cos when he was being hit repeatedly in the face, the only thing he could do was pathetically raise his arm. It's a common effect of an unprovoked, unprepared assault. Also i think it's futile to completely separate "civilisation" from the natural way of things.. even more so when you remember that these people are kids, and are no where near fully developed, mature and civilised adults.

For instance, would you have listened to those people that taught you about civilised behaviour had they been smaller and weedier than you? What about shouting at people? to me that's still exerting a physically presence over someone as a means to bend them to your will, even if it's not "violent". And what about the courage of those who would prefer to avoid violence, but do so anyway to stand up for something? I would say that's civilised.

 

[WittyInfidel]

Wish I knew what a piledriver when I was 10 8(

In Scotland all I knew was the classic headbutt and kick in the balls.

Ah, the classic fighting style of Fuk Yu. I've been a practitioner of it for many years, myself.

 

[BanthaFodder]

FUCK YEAH. this kid should be celebrated. he handled himself PERFECTLY. he let the kid hit him 3 times, told him to stop 3 times, then the fucking kid gloves came off. if any kid is reading this, THIS IS HOW YOU REACT TO BULLIES. you give em three chances, then knock the little shit on their ass. just look at the little pussy in the video, that little ***** wont be going near Casey, or ANY kid for that matter, anytime soon

 

[Internet Kraken]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

Fact is, that "modern" society does not equate to a "peaceful" one. As someone who had been bullied before, the last thing I ever wanted to do was get in a fight, but you know what? I ended up getting into them.

Why? Because the school officials refused to do anything about it. It was the same way from Elementary through High School, if it didn't bother or affect them, they weren't going to do anything about it. I will almost 100% guarantee you that Casey had gone to the teachers, the principals, the counselors, and they did nothing.

And to be blunt, when it comes to little pricks, the only way to get anything through to them is through a piledriver to the ground.

The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

Think about it; when you support this kind of behavior, you are essentially saying violence is okay so long as you believe you are in the right. As a society we should be moving away from that mentality.

I would agree with you on one condition. If Casey had been walking down the hall, seen the kid who had been bullying him and decided it was time to pile drive him through the floor. But he didn't, he was attacked and defended himself. Was his action the best "civilized" solution for the situation? No. But it sure beats curling into a ball on the ground and simply taking it or running away and effectively inviting himself to be bullied even more.

Thing is no attempt was made to walk away or do anything of the sort. If he had moved and the kid pursued him I would agree. But he didn't and went straight to fighting instead. Again I don't blame the kid for this because it is very hard to resist such urges, however I really don't like that his violent behavior is being praised.

actually, he was quite clearly paralyzed with nerves. You can tell cos when he was being hit repeatedly in the face, the only thing he could do was pathetically raise his arm. It's a common effect of an unprovoked, unprepared assault. Also i think it's futile to completely separate "civilisation" from the natural way of things.. even more so when you remember that these people are kids, and are no where near fully developed, mature and civilised adults.

For instance, would you have listened to those people that taught you about civilised behaviour had they been smaller and weedier than you? What about shouting at people? to me that's still exerting a physically presence over someone as a means to bend them to your will, even if it's not "violent". And what about the courage of those who would prefer to avoid violence, but do so anyway to stand up for something? I would say that's civilised.

Are people even reading what I posted at this point? I don't know how many times I have to say this; I'm not condemning the kid. I don't blame him for resorting to violence. However, I do not think we should praise him for using violence and act like it is the morally correct option as so many people are doing. I am talking about this situation and this situation only, not other ones where violence may be justified.

 

[Jumplion]

Boys will be boys, I suppose. I've never been seriously bullied before and I have rarely gotten into a major fight, but damn it can be supremely distressing to be bullied even slightly and not be able to tell anyone because the teachers and faculty members are a bunch of morons (to be fair, it's not like they can really do much to begin with).

While I don't believe that every conflict should be solved with violence and fighting, a little fisticuffs never hurt nobody (majorly). The pile-driver is debatable, as some have said, as the "victim" could have been seriously injured and he'd be in a much sticker situation.

 

[Dfskelleton]

EVERYBODY DANCE IN VICTORY

 

[RvLeshrac]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

Fact is, that "modern" society does not equate to a "peaceful" one. As someone who had been bullied before, the last thing I ever wanted to do was get in a fight, but you know what? I ended up getting into them.

Why? Because the school officials refused to do anything about it. It was the same way from Elementary through High School, if it didn't bother or affect them, they weren't going to do anything about it. I will almost 100% guarantee you that Casey had gone to the teachers, the principals, the counselors, and they did nothing.

And to be blunt, when it comes to little pricks, the only way to get anything through to them is through a piledriver to the ground.

The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

Think about it; when you support this kind of behavior, you are essentially saying violence is okay so long as you believe you are in the right. As a society we should be moving away from that mentality.

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I never said violence was never justified. However, if you honestly think brute force needed to be used against a 4ft tall school yard bully who was lightly shoving someone, your being very immature. And it is not violence that caused this kid to stop bullying him, it's more likely a ton of people across the country berating the bully for what he did. Had this not become such a huge story I doubt the bully would have stopped. Despite what you might think, punching someone in the face doesn't make them stop tormenting you and quite often can have the opposite result.

When I was in high school, a friend of mine was bullied constantly, right up until the day he grabbed one of them by the head and made an impression of his face in the wall lockers.

No one bothered him after that.

 

[Icehearted]

Anonymous, nay, all bullied and belittled people everywhere are rejoicing. The boy showed the kind of guts a lot of us only wish we'd had at that age and in similar situations.

 

[Crystalgate]

The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

You say you never had to resort to violence. I have however seen from other forums people posting about how they were bullied and the situation didn't get better until they went physical on their tormentors. Personally, I think that whether or not you can get a bully of you by punching him is situational.

 

[chunkeymonke]

Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort

i think you misread it the mother said she wants her son to apoligize

 

[DoomyMcDoom]

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Ideally, the kid would opt to simply ignore no matter how difficult that might be. That really would be the best thing to do from a moral standpoint. However, as I have said multiple times before, I know this is very difficult to do, so I don't blame him for using violence.

I just don't like how people are praising this kid for beating someone up. He shouldn't be punished, but he should also be aware of the error in his ways. You're probably right, his parents have told him this. However a ton of people keep saying there is nothing wrong with him using violence and that is the problem I have with this.

To be honest, I've experienced a fair ammount of bullying, now depends on your situation, but I was close to suicide for years because of it, I started fighting back and it subsided, then I moved to a new school, was targeted again, and I was put under so much medication in the form of anti-depressants that I was immediately singled outa s that weird kid(note, this is before the obsessive prescription of medication to all children who so much as twitch in a classroom hit canada, so yeah it was weird to be on pills for brain shit here still), and since the medication was doing next to nothing, and indeed actually made my "anger problems" worse(gee getting bullied more, problems at home, being the poor kid who sometimes had no food for lunch and no friends to hang with ever) I ended up just dropping out... I came close to committing murder more than a few times in that last year... now I'm paying for it since I'm considered worthless by almost anyone in the position to evaluate me on any basis, cuz I'm a droppout... of course I've become more social and friendly in the last 5 years, but it took me 6 years to sort my shit out in a state of complete reclusion... If I hadn't been threatened with expulsion if I "acted up again" and was able to fight back and stop that shit after I moved schools, and not be forced to "Ignore" it, I might not have had the same shit that is now my life to deal with eh, so "Way to go casey, good on ye mate, and don't take crap from anybody ever again" is what I say. Self defense should always be praised, as the preying on others for no damn good reason is one of the biggest reasons that we aren't as "Civilized" as we apparently should be, because people act on stupidity and prejudice way too often. If everyone respected eachother this sort of situation wouldn't even start to occur, and thusly self defense would be unnessecary, thing is saying please don't do that to me, is inneffective if the person doing something of a disrespectful or hurtful nature has no reason to deny himself the pleasure of acting on his prejudices and making himself feel bigger by doing so... fighting back shows that there is a reason not to act in such a way in the future... not only is it self defense but a preventative measure.

 

[lewiswhitling]

ah no i did read - but i think it is actually a constructive and healthy thing for physical force to be used in certain circumstances - this being one of them. Obviously however, violence is often the wrong path to take - even more so when people train themselves to use it as a routine response to challenges. And of course, the more obvious problem with it is that it can get way out of hand so easily.

I dont think that people are praising violence as such, and those that do are likely have issues. I think it's more to do with seeing someone overcome great adversity, violent or not.

 

[Internet Kraken]

The excuse "the officials do nothing" is not a valid one and does not excuse violence in anyway. I was bullied a lot in school to, and I never resorted to physical violence. If you attack someone who bullies you, unless it really is in self-defense, you aren't much better than them. You need to be mature enough to understand this. Now I do understand that is very hard to resist the urge to be violent, especially when you are the victim. As a result I am not going to berate this kid as he was under a lot of stress. However, I will not praise his violent behavior and pretend he did the right thing and I will berate people who say he did.

You say you never had to resort to violence. I have however seen from other forums people posting about how they were bullied and the situation didn't get better until they went physical on their tormentors. Personally, I think that whether or not you can get a bully of you by punching him is situational.

I never said the bullies stopped bullying me. They continued to do so for a long time until I got out of the school I was in with them. The reason I didn't fight them because I didn't want to be that immature. I'm not trying to suggest that not using violence will solve your problem, but it is the morally correct thing to do and physical violence may also make your problems worse. Seriously, there was a kid at our school who did fight back and he didn't get in trouble because it was sort of self-defense. However the bully didn't stop tormenting him and infact ganged up on him later in the year with several friends. Violence is almost never morally right in these situations, and sometimes it can make things much worse for you.

 

[Nick Angelici]

I'm so glad that as a modern society we celebrate acts of violence rather than being, you know, civilized.

I really don't get why this has garnered so much attention though. Not the first time something like this has happened.

You cant be civilized to someone who wont be, if he strikes first, he asked for it, I agree with casey's "response" to the situation, esspecially if this is not the first time he was bullied.

overall, no its no big deal on paper, but its nice to see people stand up for them self, walking away only does so much, and that kid looked like he wasnt going to listen to anybody, kid or adult.