Killzone 3 Leaks to Torrent Sites

[Vrach]

Well I hope we don't switch cause that'd be crap for you, but I do intend and am working on getting the hell out of here as soon as I can, so I'll be in a position to tell you I have the same view on the matter in a few years time ^^. I'm working to get into the gaming industry myself and since one doesn't exist here, I'll definitely be moving somewhere else - current plan is Canada, looks like the most awesome place to finish my studies and live/work atm.

Good luck with that, I personally want to get into the Entertainment industry. Specifically into that, directing Films/Video Games. Specifically specifically into that, I want to be in the animation process behind said films/games.

I don't think we'll be agreeing with each other any time soon, and in all honesty I don't think I was debating at my prime as I am currently under the weather. Lost posts like these tend to be driven away from the original subject, and we end up arguing about something else entirely at the end.

Thanks and good luck to ya as well mate. Animation business is great from what I hear, I know a friend of a friend who's deep into it, works in Canada now, did some work previously on Spiderman movies among other things, was really impressed by his resume. But ya, keep at it, pushing through is just a matter of persistence

And yeah, know what you mean, to be frank, I think we did come to a little bit of an understanding and agreement in your last post. My intention wasn't to turn your (or anyone else's) stance on the matter 180 degrees anyway, just to explain a few points and enjoy a good debate. Personally, I like debating and this is actually one of my favourite subjects because there's so many sides to it and a lot of them touch on me as both a gamer and a, hopefully, future developer.

 

[Kair]

Piracy is good, it leaks information, and information should not be limited.

can't tell if your being sarcastic... but in this case it should be limited, software is the only thing America has that they can still produce that can't be out sourced to china/Mexico.

You do not consider alternatives.

Before you ask me to explain, I would like you to read the part of Das Kapital which explains the commodity and the value of the commodity.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm

It will save me a lot of time.

Piracy is good, it leaks information, and information should not be limited.

Your post + your avatar = lol

You know well that a Communist supports freedom of information. Any connotation suggesting otherwise is improper.

Oh, sorry about that, I'd assumed you were one of those annoying ironic Stalinists who are so common on message boards.

It is ok.

It is sad that Stalinism have been associated with Communism. Stalin was an opportunist, a tyrant and a nationalist. I have a difficult time with people as many do not know the definition of the word Communism, and therefore have no idea what they are arguing against.

Oh thanks but im going to take the dumb American rout and not read the entire Economic manuscript from Karl Marx, and i really doubt that this changes the fact that Ideas are what we are trying to sell were countrys that have a less educated work force can't produce this, but has plenty of cheap laber, i may not understand Marxism or his value on commodity, but i do know how it works in real life.

You have observed how socialism works among an uneducated populace.
It is critical that all humans achieve enlightenment. Before that, Communism may be impossible.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

There are tons of games that are free. Saying that people deserve to be allowed to play games like Killzone 3 for free, is like saying these people deserve to be driving sportscars for free, or taking trips to expensive resorts for free. High profile games like these are unnecessary luxuries.

Factories can't make sports cars out of thin air for no production cost. Games can be digitally doubled for no cost. Difference.

irrelevant, as both acts could be considered an act of industrial espionage (after all in the case of the latter, regardless of whether you are just coppying it or actually taking it, it is still the theft of an idea) a very serious crime that can carry long jail sentences