Kim Dotcom Will Create a New Megaupload

Rainboq

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If this IS legitimate, and given what happened to him, I doubt it will be fraud. And hopefully this pans out, because giving the FBI a middle finger on that scale would be a wonderful thing.
 

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albino boo said:
Hmm convicted fraudster and has a nice new scheme which he wants investors money.
Yeah, he wants money... but for what?

The guy already has a huge pile of money, and palaces around the world.

After a certain point, at hundreds of millions of dollars, money is no longer about greed, it's about power. And if even after getting pulled out of his home and getting imprisoned, he chooses to continues getting it the exact same way, that at least tells something about this personal convinction that he has to bring down te copyright industry.

Yeah, he just wants money. So does Riccitiello, Kotick, and Guillemot. I would still have much more faith in the convicted fraudster who wants money in a way that will probably get him arrested again for screwing over some big names, than those who are playing it safe and only screwing us over legally.
 

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How soon before the American government throws a hissy fit and cries about people being mean to it?
 

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Hooray for pirates continuing their valiant fight to keep sharing all their stuff for free then? Unless this site takes more measures to discourage and prevent itself from being one of the biggest pirate storehouses in the world itll deserve to be kicked down again.
 

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This is amazing. I hope it works out well for the guy. I really, really hope now that he manages to get some sort of retribution from the US government in the form of some cash, and use it to build this.
 

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Now this is the story all about how
I will change your world, flip turn it upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a site called Megaupload

In west Germany born and raised
On the the computer where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, hacking, relaxing all cool
And all hosting some files outside of the rules
When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said "You're taking Megaupload off the Air"

OT: I'm really wondering how this turns out, and if he manages to attract other developers to his platform.
There is still a hole in the Internet where Megauload used to be.
 

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Fuck off Schmitz, your entire empire is based on scamming. Which you are so proud of that you even changed your name to reflect it. Don't pretend to be a hero of the people, there's only one person you really care about.
Awexsome said:
Hooray for pirates continuing their valiant fight to keep sharing all their stuff for free then? Unless this site takes more measures to discourage and prevent itself from being one of the biggest pirate storehouses in the world itll deserve to be kicked down again.
It's not the legal obligation of any file hoster - or rather any website - to actively prevent copyright infringement, they only have to remove files if a copyright holder requests it. Youtube, each and every webhost, heck, even this site would also deserve to be kicked down if we follow your logic. I also highly doubt he'll put a single server in a country where the US can touch him next time.
 

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nikki191 said:
like others i dont like the guys but good on him and i hope it goes well. im still pissed the us government stole my property
What property did they steal, exactly?

albino boo said:
Hmm convicted fraudster and has a nice new scheme which he wants investors money.
[citation needed]
 

Twilight_guy

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Yeah, I'm sure the government will not only love you saying your making an new version of the website you shut down but will just be so thrilled at you calling them out. THIS WILL END WELL!

He doesn't even pretend to say that he's going to try and avoid the copyright infringement that got him in trouble or make the website different, even if he really doesn't. He's going to do the same thing and expect a different result, he clearly meets the definition of insanity.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
nikki191 said:
like others i dont like the guys but good on him and i hope it goes well. im still pissed the us government stole my property
What property did they steal, exactly?

albino boo said:
Hmm convicted fraudster and has a nice new scheme which he wants investors money.
[citation needed]
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/kim-dotcom/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4479703/City-Profile-From-convicted-hacker-to-dotcom-backer.html
 

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Sounds to me like he plans to build his own internet on top of the current infrastructure. It's been tried before but always relied entirely on the public to make it work. If he uses his resources to build a solid foundation that is user expandable instead of user reliant; he could pull it off.

Personally I'd rather see his resources go into supercharging Tor but alternatives are nice.
 

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Staskala said:
Fuck off Schmitz, your entire empire is based on scamming. Which you are so proud of that you even changed your name to reflect it. Don't pretend to be a hero of the people, there's only one person you really care about.
Awexsome said:
Hooray for pirates continuing their valiant fight to keep sharing all their stuff for free then? Unless this site takes more measures to discourage and prevent itself from being one of the biggest pirate storehouses in the world itll deserve to be kicked down again.
It's not the legal obligation of any file hoster - or rather any website - to actively prevent copyright infringement, they only have to remove files if a copyright holder requests it.
Which they purposefully failed miserably at to make profit. Hence the whole scandal in the first place why they got taken down instead of some other site.

Yeah a lot of people here love to have the rah rah fuck the man attitude but the fuck is the U.S. supposed to do when people start exploiting every loophole and jurisdiction issue in other countries to directly break U.S. laws?
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
nikki191 said:
like others i dont like the guys but good on him and i hope it goes well. im still pissed the us government stole my property
What property did they steal, exactly?
I'm assuming it's a similar situation to this guy I knew. He made songs, and uploaded them to MU to share them publicly. He considered it RIAA censorship when they took down MU, because they were in fact killing him as a competitor to their own works. A little overblown as a reaction IMO, but it did drive home that MU had legitimate uses, and the use he was using it for did conflict with their agenda while breaking no laws.

Awexsome said:
but the fuck is the U.S. supposed to do when people start exploiting every loophole and jurisdiction issue in other countries to directly break U.S. laws?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. You don't demand to go into your neighbor's house to raise their kids. It's the same thing on a global scale. Their house, their rules. If their kids are really bothering you, then you ask the parents to manage their kids better. If they say no, then there is nothing more you can do. You deal with it.
 

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Signa said:
I'm assuming it's a similar situation to this guy I knew. He made songs, and uploaded them to MU to share them publicly. He considered it RIAA censorship when they took down MU, because they were in fact killing him as a competitor to their own works. A little overblown as a reaction IMO, but it did drive home that MU had legitimate uses, and the use he was using it for did conflict with their agenda while breaking no laws.
You know, I have shared music I've made on multiple services, but shutting them down still isn't "stealing." It's a hoard of other nasty things, but I was specifically addressing the histrionics.

Is it censorship? Yeah, no doubt. Is it ethically and legally wrong? Also yes. Is it teh steelingz? No way.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Signa said:
I'm assuming it's a similar situation to this guy I knew. He made songs, and uploaded them to MU to share them publicly. He considered it RIAA censorship when they took down MU, because they were in fact killing him as a competitor to their own works. A little overblown as a reaction IMO, but it did drive home that MU had legitimate uses, and the use he was using it for did conflict with their agenda while breaking no laws.
You know, I have shared music I've made on multiple services, but shutting them down still isn't "stealing." It's a hoard of other nasty things, but I was specifically addressing the histrionics.

Is it censorship? Yeah, no doubt. Is it ethically and legally wrong? Also yes. Is it teh steelingz? No way.
Tru dat. I can assume it felt like they were being stolen from, but I'll let them answer that themselves.