Kim Jung Il Left Out of Japanese Homefront

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Mantonio said:
What's he gonna do? Seriously. His nuclear missiles (if they even still work) could hit at best the north-western most tip of Alaska. And he relies on other countries, mainly China, to make sure his population doesn't completely starve to death. And guess who one of China's biggest customers is? That's right.

Even if they had the means, they wouldn't. Team America: World Police didn't rile him up, and neither will Homefront.
Uh... you kinda misunderstood.

A: I'm talking about the effects of a publication in Japan, not America.

B: I'm not talking about riling up Kim Jung Il, I'm talking about being seen to be stirring up and encouraging even more anti-Korean sentiment in Japan.

Anyway whatever, my two-pence said and explained, so.. I'm off before this conversation gets anymore unpalatable or the xenophobes start appearing.
 

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Scott Bullock said:
Homefront will be released in "A Certain Homogeneous Island Nation" this April, while us in "A Certain Western Superpower" can pick it up in March.
Much love and lol for that sentence :D

Anyway, on one hand I call bollox on this, especially as it's Japan (and therefore a democracy), but I suppose the law is law. Now if the human race could just get it through it's thick skull that an existing law doesn't make things right, maybe it could reconsider a bunch of them and make this world a happier place :\
 

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Fensfield said:
Mantonio said:
What's he gonna do? Seriously. His nuclear missiles (if they even still work) could hit at best the north-western most tip of Alaska. And he relies on other countries, mainly China, to make sure his population doesn't completely starve to death. And guess who one of China's biggest customers is? That's right.

Even if they had the means, they wouldn't. Team America: World Police didn't rile him up, and neither will Homefront.

Uh... you kinda misunderstood.

A: I'm talking about the effects of a publication in Japan, not America.

B: I'm not talking about riling up Kim Jung Il, I'm talking about being seen to be stirring up and encouraging even more anti-Korean sentiment in Japan.

Anyway whatever, my two-pence said and explained, so.. I'm off before this conversation gets anymore unpalatable or the xenophobes start appearing.
You broke the quote, bud.

OT: Wow, really Japan?

Ustillmad?
 

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henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront being a game concerned with North Korea's invasion of the United States after the death of Kim Jung Il
You've gotta be kidding me... This is a million times more ridiculous than the Modern Warfare II plot.

Look, if you americans are so keen on being invaded, please stick to the aliens. That is a thousand times more plausible than the Russia or North Korea scenario.
they explain it in logical steps
Logical steps that make no sense. I find it hilarious that the Steam page promoted this games story as "terrifyingly plausible", or something like that. It's one of the most absurd scenarios I've ever heard. I'm not sure what the most ridiculous part is; South Korea willingly joining together with North Korea, North Korea conquering Asia, or North Korea conquering the USA. All three are completley ridiculous.

Why did they pick North Korea of all countries anyways? China would have worked better. Granted China randomly turning against the USA makes no sense, but it's slightly more plausible than North Korea somehow dominating everyone.
 

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Homefront is... well, it's not exactly an ambassador, is it? It's got a whole theme of American Army jingoism and it's got an american flag for a logo. I mean, this game did not set out to change lives for the better or raise some complicated question. Suffice it to say I don't like the game, but I understand why others do. The problem lies in how Japan sees this kind of thing taken out of context. I'm sure they'd take these names out of the game even if it wasn't needed by law.

There's not much else to say.
 

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Mantonio said:
Tiamat666 said:
henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront being a game concerned with North Korea's invasion of the United States after the death of Kim Jung Il
You've gotta be kidding me... This is a million times more ridiculous than the Modern Warfare II plot.

Look, if you americans are so keen on being invaded, please stick to the aliens. That is a thousand times more plausible than the Russia or North Korea scenario.
they explain it in logical steps
Ah, I see. So the North Koreans have allied themselves with the aliens and are using their advanced technology to infiltrate the U.S.?
I guess that would make sense. I see no other way how one of the piss-poorest nations on this planet could otherwise get even a single troop carrier over the pacific without hitting an iceberg on the way.
They explain it. Kim Jung Il dies and is replaced by his son, who is (according to Homefront) a lot better. He brings North and South Korea together and into an economic powerhouse, while the US is declining and pulling back due to (amongst over things) rising oil prices.

Then Korea puts out a satellite that they say is for media purposes, but actually detonates an EMP blast over the western half of the US.
The Ohio-class submarines, carrying about 50% of America's nuclear warheads, are capable of rapid targeting using secure and constant at-sea communications links, and would not be affected by EMP blasts. They constantly patrol troubled waters. One of the major plot hole there.

Also, becoming the most prominent powerhouse in less than ten years? That's kind of insulting to the decades of careful planning, structuring and policy-making that current superpowers had to undergo to achieve today's position.

Not that it really matters. If the gameplay is good and innovative, no reason to get hung up on the story. CoD:MW's story sucked ten times more, but I loved it purely for the MP and cinematic progression.

henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront being a game concerned with North Korea's invasion of the United States after the death of Kim Jung Il
You've gotta be kidding me... This is a million times more ridiculous than the Modern Warfare II plot.

Look, if you americans are so keen on being invaded, please stick to the aliens. That is a thousand times more plausible than the Russia or North Korea scenario.
they explain it in logical steps
Ah, I see. So the North Koreans have allied themselves with the aliens and are using their advanced technology to infiltrate the U.S.?
I guess that would make sense. I see no other way how one of the piss-poorest nations on this planet could otherwise get even a single troop carrier over the pacific without hitting an iceberg on the way.
it had too do with budget cuts on the American army (seeing that Obama seems to care for the people instead of war mongering it seems like a logical step) Korea isnt that far from the USA making a attack also plausible. Its explained on Wikipedia
Umm, you do know that Obama has actually been increasing the military budget, right?

For the 2010 fiscal year, the president's base budget of the Department of Defense rose to $533.8 billion. Adding spending on "overseas contingency operations" brings the sum to $663.8 billion.
When the budget was signed into law on October 28, 2009, the final size of the Department of Defense's budget was $680 billion, $16 billion more than President Obama had requested. An additional $37 billion supplemental bill to support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was expected to pass in the spring of 2010, but has been delayed by the House of Representatives after passing the Senate. Defense-related expenditures outside of the Department of Defense constitute between $319 billion and $654 billion in additional spending, bringing the total for defense spending to between $1.01 and $1.35 trillion in fiscal year 2010.

For 2011, budget spending might rise to $1.449 trillion. - Wikipedia
 

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Thats like making a World War 2 game/movie and replacing all mentions of Nazis and Hitler to Puppies and Chocolate.
 

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Vrach said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront will be released in "A Certain Homogeneous Island Nation" this April, while us in "A Certain Western Superpower" can pick it up in March.
Much love and lol for that sentence :D

Anyway, on one hand I call bollox on this, especially as it's Japan (and therefore a democracy), but I suppose the law is law. Now if the human race could just get it through it's thick skull that an existing law doesn't make things right, maybe it could reconsider a bunch of them and make this world a happier place :\
Again, this is CERO. CERO is a non-profit, non-government organization. Not the law. It sucks that they have to do this, but ratings boards have the same power over here.
 

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"A Certain Western Superpower?"

Sounds like some kind of anime. That country probably has railguns. :)

Also, what exactly are the CERO guidelines depicting living people and real countries?
 

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cocoro67 said:
Thats like making a World War 2 game/movie and replacing all mentions of Nazis and Hitler to Puppies and Chocolate.
Don't they already do that in Germany?
 

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cocoro67 said:
Thats like making a World War 2 game/movie and replacing all mentions of Nazis and Hitler to Puppies and Chocolate.
I'd play it!

Also what Japan???
 

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Fensfield said:
Probably a good idea in a way, CERO guidelines or no.

America may have a lot invested in North Korea not going anymore rogue than it already has, but with that nutcase lobbing 'satellite launch vehicles' at Japan's borders semi-regularly and the general animosity.. it'd feel uncomfortably like someone was trying to stir up trouble were it published as-is.
As I understand it, pretty much all of Asia is uncomfortable with N. Korea right now.
 

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Thedayrecker said:
Kasurami said:
Scott Bullock said:
...he will be the ruler of "A Certain Country to the North".
So... Canada?
Damnit! I knew a Canadian invasion was inevitable!

To the syrup-proof bunker!
OH NO... Men, Its time to pull out the Syrup-zookas, we shall break this syrup proofing once and for all!

O.T. I can see why japan would do this, i've been there once, it was for about 2 months, and their views on gaming, and even the use of other Asian nations in games is strictly censored.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront being a game concerned with North Korea's invasion of the United States after the death of Kim Jung Il
You've gotta be kidding me... This is a million times more ridiculous than the Modern Warfare II plot.

Look, if you americans are so keen on being invaded, please stick to the aliens. That is a thousand times more plausible than the Russia or North Korea scenario.
they explain it in logical steps
Logical steps that make no sense. I find it hilarious that the Steam page promoted this games story as "terrifyingly plausible", or something like that. It's one of the most absurd scenarios I've ever heard. I'm not sure what the most ridiculous part is; South Korea willingly joining together with North Korea, North Korea conquering Asia, or North Korea conquering the USA. All three are completley ridiculous.

Why did they pick North Korea of all countries anyways? China would have worked better. Granted China randomly turning against the USA makes no sense, but it's slightly more plausible than North Korea somehow dominating everyone.
the west isnt sure what,s happening in N Korea (atleast I think that) so its possible they used nuclear weapons or bluffed that they had them
 

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henritje said:
Internet Kraken said:
henritje said:
Tiamat666 said:
Scott Bullock said:
Homefront being a game concerned with North Korea's invasion of the United States after the death of Kim Jung Il
You've gotta be kidding me... This is a million times more ridiculous than the Modern Warfare II plot.

Look, if you americans are so keen on being invaded, please stick to the aliens. That is a thousand times more plausible than the Russia or North Korea scenario.
they explain it in logical steps
Logical steps that make no sense. I find it hilarious that the Steam page promoted this games story as "terrifyingly plausible", or something like that. It's one of the most absurd scenarios I've ever heard. I'm not sure what the most ridiculous part is; South Korea willingly joining together with North Korea, North Korea conquering Asia, or North Korea conquering the USA. All three are completley ridiculous.

Why did they pick North Korea of all countries anyways? China would have worked better. Granted China randomly turning against the USA makes no sense, but it's slightly more plausible than North Korea somehow dominating everyone.
the west isnt sure what,s happening in N Korea (atleast I think that) so its possible they used nuclear weapons or bluffed that they had them

.....so?

That doesn't explain how North Korea could somehow conquer all of Asia and invade the USA. Bluffing that you have nuclear weapons doesn't not mean you get whatever you want, especially when the country you're threatening has far more nukes than you and the technology needed to launch them all onto you. North Korea's technology is so far behind that they wouldn't even be able to hit most of North America with their nukes.