Kitten found buried alive in concrete.
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That's a touchy subject, buddy, although probably less so on this site. It also has nothing to do with animals, so I'm puzzled as to why you keep bringing it up.DRes82 said:
Anyway, I'm not talking about this from a religious standpoint. Yes, we evolved alongside all other animals on Earth. But we evolved into the smartest animals on the planet, capable of logic, reason, abstract thinking, and killing any other damn animal we feel like killing. That's what makes us the best animal on Earth. We rule it, we change it, we care about it (or not), and we'll continue to do so until rocks fall everyone dies.
It would depend, if I didn't know the person...I'd probably go with 1 kitten. Kittens don't fuck things up. If the person was someone I cared for, there would be no amount of kittens worth their life, but I'd say there would be no amount of random assholes that would be worth their life, either.the_green_dragon said:
Uh, wow. Having higher thinking capabilities absolutely does make people better then kittens. Jesus, dial the back the rhetoric. I mean, the guy who said "who cares, it's an animal" is a fucking **** (tell me I'm wrong, mods) but that doesn't make your post any less silly.Screamarie said:
HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, good god, you're serious. Humans couldn't put a fucking DENT in this planet even if we tried. It has been through so much worse then us and it's still fine. And people who are cruel sadistic cunts tend to be mentally unstable, i.e., THERE IS SOMETHING PSYCHICALLY WRONG WITH THEM. The healthy human mind has absolutely no desire to hurt anyone. If it did, we'd have killed each other off before the invention of fire. Not to mention the fact that animals are massive cunts, too. But I'm pretty sure about a million people have informed you of this already, so I'll go ahead and skip that part of my speech.Jean Hag said:
You say that, but if such an awful scenario were to happen, there's no way you'd pick the kitten. You may feel like shit afterward, but come on. We're talking about a person here, with thoughts, dreams, and feelings. You'd have to be one cold ************ to sacrifice a person for something you find inoffensive. Also, kittens break shit all the time. Just sayin'.DRes82 said:
That's just horrible. Why would anyone do this?
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From what I've seen of Pen and Teller's show on PETA, they were associated with a guy who firebombed an animal research lab. So I guess you're not too far off with that description.Clearing the Eye said:
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I'm pretty sure you're trolling me right now. At least I hope so. But since I enjoy correcting people so very much, I'll spend a few minutes writing a lengthy post as to way you're wrong anyway.the_green_dragon said:
Firstly, some basic facts about bacteria. They rule this planet. They have managed to successfully adopt to every single environment on this earth, from the driest subtropical deserts to the coldest Antarctic environments, including of course radioactive waste and the Earth's crust in temperatures we cannot survive. They are and have always been the most important and varied organic group on this earth and they make up more of the earth's biomass than humans and plants combined (there's more than 5 × 1030 (5 nonillion) bacteria on Earth), and our bodies need many of them to even function properly.
Take the very impressive mycobacterium which can survive and successfully reproduce in almost every environment, no matter how hot, cold or radioactive it might be, and has dominated this planet billions of years before us, and will continue to dominate this planet millions of years after we?re gone, and has killed billions of us during the time we've spent on this earth together.
The only difference between bacteria and us as that we depend on them whereas they do not depend on us. And to put things in more earthly terms, should be decide to start a war against, let's say mycobacterium, we would not be able to, with whatever technology we should apply, eradicate them. (because, even if we decide to nuke the shit out of this earth and destroy ourselves in the process, mycobacterium would still survive).
So in short, bacteria fucking rule this planet. Simple as that. If we are to be truly objective, that is. We could always say that humans are the dominate species because we managed to shoot a rocket to the moon, but then we're not really being truly objective.
How the fuck would you accidentally put a kitten into a pipe that's taller than you are?krazykidd said:
And even if it was an accident, the concrete would still be wet or it wouldn't be buried in it in the first place, which basically means you can just remove the supports and lift the pipe right off to free it. And who cares? Anyone with any measure of empathy.
Your comment ranks among the most disturbing comments I've ever read on this forum, and it speaks much of your character.
I'm glad I do not and never will know you in person.
the_green_dragon said:
Why is it the Devil making the deal, Green Dragon? Why not Jesus Christ? God made people make these kind of brutal decisions all the time- at least in the Old Testament.
Yeah, I was kinda expecting that 'what if it was your loved one' line... but what if it was just some scumbag you didn't know? Why is a human life worth so much, when all most of us do is eat, waste time, shit, have more baby time- wasters, and die? That's all the cats are up to, too, and you want to exterminate all of a generation of life, for one lousy person... or maybe your mom ( I admit, I don't really know what I'd do if I were actually presented with the loved one scenario. I can't say- I've never been put in such a hard place!)
I'm not a crazy cat lady, but I'm not into kitty genocide either.
Hey! This would have made an intruiging poll...
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.htmlJean Hag said:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html
People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.
Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
So basically bacteria rule the world because they can survive everywhere and they help us survive....CarlMinez said:
So food also rules the world because that helps us survive too?
We are much more awesome then bacteria because we can think, reason and write stupid posts on an internet forum.
Even if the world was ruled by bacteria they're too stupid (since they lack a brain) to realize it. Therefore humans win.
wait... why am i responding to you?
But they're not at the top of the food chain, because they don't eat people.CarlMinez said:
That was the original point.
And if you're going to mention that they use nutrients in corpses, then you've just entered food cycles, because plants do that too.
Hello!the December King said:
good question. I suppose since God created the Devil he is to blame for this situation.
I thought the overall point was human superiority. I mean the food chain isn't even a thing. It's just a mental concept of how animals feed of each other that they teach in first grade. Saying that humans are on the top of the food chain doesn't mean anything, unless you by extension imply that humans are superior to other animals, which we aren't necessary.lacktheknack said:
please dont watch it. all you will see is an innocent creature meowing its last few meows.Fieldy409 said:
Aw crap I've upset Caramel. The kitten story I could handle (barely) but this, this is too much.Caramel Frappe said:
Fine, I can work with that. It means you responded to someone on uneven terms, but hey, what happens happens.CarlMinez said:
That said, I don't see the point of treating other animals as equals. It contributes nothing to human society, and has horrific implications in the farming industry.
Sure, you shouldn't abuse animals (as seen in the OP), but there's no reason to break out the "humans are the same as other animals" argument. I don't agree with it, but above all, there's no point to it.
That doesn't make it any less cruel. The thing could barely breathe, the concrete was pressing against its lungs. I don't care where we are on the food chain, we must hold ourselves to higher standards than this. No creature deserves to suffer like that.krazykidd said:
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.lacktheknack said:
I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.
And maybe dolphins, too.