James Joseph Emerald said:
Nope, as said by others before you. From what I gather, it's basically what you would get if you somehow turned the phrase "ANIME ISNT 4 KIDS!!!!!!!" into a TV series.
James Joseph Emerald said:
I actually just finished watching Berserk yesterday. It strengthened my suspicions that the "best anime ever" are actually just whatever happened to be picked up by Adult Swim in the early 2000's. Not that it's a bad show by any stretch of the imagination, but it ends at the moment the plot begins. Literally. Episodes 2-25 are an enormous flashback to previous events, and while the manga then returns to the present, the anime never does. It ends on the cliffhangeriest cliffhanger I've seen in my entire life.
James Joseph Emerald said:
I'd be inclined to say don't watch Elfen Lied because it's a terrible show, but of course I shouldn't say that because people like this show. Those people are dumb (Hate the sinner, not the sin, I say). Luckily, you're averse to anime tropes, because Elfen Lied has most of them, so I can just say don't watch it for that reason instead.
Asita said:
If you want something grounded in reality, watch Monster. It's a good series in its own right (though it is slow paced and emotionally draining at times) and basically my de-facto "anime recommendation for people who hate anime" due to its lack of fantastical elements.
I personally found Monster too slow-paced to keep watching it (the art didn't help either), but based on the praise it gets I have no intention of writing it off, and it does seem to be what you're looking for.
I'd like to point out, though, that you may not like what you think you like (insert Jimquisition episode on focus groups here). For example, everyone says: no highschool, no fanservice, no mecha, and the more homophobic and/or repressed ones say no effeminate guys. Well Code Geass has all of that, and
everybody likes Code Geass*.
*EDITOR'S NOTE: Confirmed by scientific study in 2009. Based on random genetic sampling, people who do not like Code Geass are actually alien invaders, not humans.
Yuuki said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
Are you...are you serious
I think you're the first person who has claimed that the absolutely miniscule level of fanservice in Code Geass (I can't even remember anything off the top of my head, but it's been a while) is ruining it for you.
Code Geass is something that consistently features in pretty much everyone's top anime lists. A lot. There's a reason for that. It's not perfect, but out of whatever gripes one could possibly have with the show (I have a few myself)...
fanservice?
In that case DEFINITELY stay away from Gantz and Elfen Lied. If you think Code Geass was sexualised, then watching those two may turn you away from anime forever.
There's also the possibility of me having watched enough anime to get completely desensitized to fanservice, to the point of my brain not even registering/remembering it. Not unless it is brutally shoved into my face...oh on that note, do NOT watch Highschool Of The Dead.
He's not the only one. Code Geass is my second-favorite anime (unhorsed from first by a certain diabolical bunny-cat), but I would still say the fanservice detracted from my experience. What I'm looking for from pretty much every story is a strongly woven emotional experience. That's why I liked Code Geass, why I liked Madoka, why I liked Steins;Gate, why I liked Evangelion, why I liked Gurren Lagann. For that matter, it's why I liked Iron Man 3. And fanservice is poison to that emotional IV drip (except when used appropriately, as in Bakemonogatari, Gurren Lagann, and...no, that's about it). That's how I see it, anyway.
James Joseph Emerald said:
madwarper said:
However, if you want a "serious" anime, I suggest Monster.
gritch said:
My recommendation have been stated before but I'll throw in my suggestions as well:
Monster The first anime that comes to mind when I think of mature anime. It's slow paced but very well grounded. It's all about a young surgeon who saves the life a young boy that grows into (well he sort of already was) a murderous sociopath. His whole life gets thrown upside down and he's got to stop the Monster he created.
ksn0va said:
Definitely sounds interesting. Is the dub any good, or should I watch it with subtitles?
You...you
could watch it on Hulu both subbed and dubbed - assuming you live in the land where the light of Hulu touches - but it seems like it's not there anymore. Odd.
Yuuki said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
That's what I was about to say:
(Is this shot really necessary? None of the male characters are filmed like this...)
(Why?!)
I realise Code Geass is far from the worst offender, but I find any of that stuff annoying. I notice every time a female character inexplicably wears a stripperific outfit, or their breasts jiggle when they move slightly. The fact that it's (comparatively) more subtle in Code Geass almost makes it worse. It's obvious they don't need to do it, so I don't know why they choose to.
Argh scale those down, way too big :S
The fact you said "None of the male characters are filmed like this..." makes me feel you are very new to anime. Code Geass very much falls within Shounen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dnen_manga]genre, a category where female fanservice is common and male fanservice is extremely rare for obvious reasons.
You find it annoying, and that's fine, but a lot of the fanbase doesn't. Code Geass for the most part stays well within the bounds of keeping fanservice exactly that - a little something for the fans. You either appreciate it, develop a tolerance to it, or outright despise it. People in the last group will have a difficult time enjoying quite a few anime that are generally considered to be worth watching, since every bit of fanservice will constantly put them off. I can't really help with that.
I'm someone who usually appreciates fanservice it as long as it's kept on a leash and isn't allowed to run rampant pushing-over the other elements of the anime/manga. I can happily say "wooo go Karen you sexy mecha pilot!" and at the same time respect her as a character with significant influence. As for the Ashford Academy girls, they aren't exactly particularly deep characters but holy SHIT I found myself crying so hard at some of the later...umm...don't wanna spoil it for you, finish that anime first
I'd disagree with you on two counts at least. One, that fanservice is archetypal of shounen, and two, that Code Geass is a shounen. I mean, it's a misuse of the term to begin with, since it really only applies to manga (and I suppose by extension adaptations of manga), while Code Geass is an original anime. And Code Geass's manga adaptation
was shounen, so that kind of weakens my position. But I'm still right, because reasons!
I really only say this because people have a habit of drawing some kind of magic line between shounen and seinen. Like, shounen is okay if you're a shit casual, but the pros are up here watching DEEP, SERIOUS seinen stuff, completing forgetting that everything terrible they've ever seen was also seinen.
Have I gone on too long?
Bara_no_Hime said:
Elfen Lied is worth watching, but it is very... bipolar. It is a dark sci-fi story that is intermingled with a comedic dorm anime (ala Love Hina). It's done for contrast, to make the dark/brutal stuff stand out more when compared to the funny cutesy stuff. It's a very effective technique, but the extreme tone changes can be off-putting. (the dub is fine, although a few characters sound like they huff helium to get high)
Let me just write down another point in support of "people like the dubs of things they like". The dub for Elfen Lied is quite bad. It was done by Sentai Filmworks. But I repeat myself.
Bara_no_Hime said:
Serial Experiments Lain is also damn good. (SUB only! Dub is awful.)
Or perhaps not. The delivery of the Japanese in Lain is so flat I'd consider it and the dub to be all but interchangeable. Although in Japanese the antagonist is voiced by Sho Hayami, who also voices Aizen in Bleach, so that experience is kind of orgasmic.
Seracen said:
Yeah, avoid NG:E unless you want to have an aneurysm. I am also one of those rare people who didn't care much for Ghost in the Shell. While interesting, I always deemed it too slow for an action anime, and not paced properly for a detective thriller. It'll go from stop to 100 MPH over the span of one scene, and the effect can be jarring (snooze...oh HELLO...snoooze...)
Ah, right, Ghost in the Shell is also a TV series. I've seen an episode or two of Stand Alone Complex, plus the original (well, not actually "original", but...) movie, and I thought they were both pretty bad. I thought the movie was pretentious as hell. And I
liked Evangelion, so that's saying something.
thehermit2 said:
Also, keep an eye out for Psycho Pass, Shinsekai Yori, Zetsuen no Tempest, Another the Animation, and Btooom in case they ever get released.
Another's been released, and Tempest as well, I think. Plus, everything you've mentioned except Katanagatari is streaming...if you live in the right country, anyway.
Red X said:
Rin, Daughter of Mnemosyne. About One immortal woman living in the a society like ours and the story progresses into the near future. Women who become immortal by a seed from the tree of life and the men get the same but turn to demon like monsters.
Also has what may be the highest tits/minute ratio of anything this side of hentai. Including Queen's Blade. It wishes it was torture porn but couldn't be for whatever reason, so they had to tell a story instead.
So, yeah, the OP should probably pass on that.
Red X said:
Eva series - You may as well watch it and make your own mind, it's overrated, pretentious and grating but that comes with analysis and time
Yeah, I agree complete - whoops, I thought we were talking about Wolf's Rain. My mistake.