Koei Tecmo Pays Employees to Have Kids
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If they think that little island of theirs needs more people, they obviously haven't seen this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKOEQVgONh0 I mean seriously, if you have so many people that there is a specific job for someone to help pack people into a train like sardines, you know that something is wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKOEQVgONh0 I mean seriously, if you have so many people that there is a specific job for someone to help pack people into a train like sardines, you know that something is wrong.
I thought japan had overpopulation problems as is? They have 1/3 the population of the states on an island smaller than tennessee.
I don't know, but I bet it's hilarious when they open the doors to let the people out. Probably looks like an explosion of people.new_age_reject said:
Japan's elderly population is dying off very quickly and there are simply not enough young people growing up (or being born) to support their national economy. They're looking at a major crisis in the next generation or two. If America prospered magnificently through its Baby Boom, imagine the opposite happening to Japan. It's not about resources on the island (which Japan can always get elsewhere, thanks to the concept of international trade), it's about a potential economic crash that will ripple out to other markets as globally-linked economies are wont to do.Internet Kraken said:
So yeah. Japan needs more kids. Everyone knows it. Or everyone who spared a minute to google it, anyway.
Not a lot of kids. Just need to bring their annual birth rate to someplace closer to their annual death rate.
Because of the aging population--there are too many older people and not enough younger ones, and there aren't enough younger people to do things like paying into the pension program.BudZer said:
The declining birth rate is actually a really serious problem, but Japan's not doing anything to combat it in a way that would work--politicians berate women for being "selfish" for not having kids, instead of looking at how there aren't enough daycare centers (they all have HUGE waiting lists to get into) and the daycare centers only operate until 3, meaning women can't have kids and work, and while there is nationalized health care here, pregnancy isn't covered because it's not technically an illness, so families have to pay for 100% of medical costs for it. Because of both of those things, a lot of people who might want to have kids just can't afford to.
I would like to point out that the "fat greasy gamer" stereotype isn't exactly true. It may just be my experience, but there really aren't that many fat-asses in the gaming camp. In comparison, of course.cobrausn said:
Sure, they're THERE. But that's like saying that DnD players are all greasy 33-year-olds who live in their mom's basement.
He sure as hell doesn't look like he lives in his mum's basement.
You clearly don't know how much money it takes to properly raise a child. If I wasn't planning on having a kid with my (hypothetical) wife because we felt we couldn't afford it, it would take a lot more than one grand to coax us into it.WrongSprite said:
Generally speaking the world as a whole is overpopulated and we need to have less people. We've been warned about Zero Population Growth for decades, and chose not to listen. Now we're looking at a need for massive negative population growth, and honestly I think only a truely gruesome world war will solve the problem, assuming we can prevent a baby boom right afterwards. Had it not been for the World War II Baby Boom we'd be okay right now.
At any rate, it is true that Japan's population has some serious problems for the reasons that are mentioned, but it's an internal logistical problem. Having kids would not solve it, but simply delay the inevitable until those kids grow old and need an even larger population to support them.
Your also looking to some extent at the whole problem with socialized medicine and such, any way you look at it in the end medicine takes resources, and someone has to pay those bills. The goverment needs the money to come from somewhere, and except in very unusual situations the demand for care is going to eventually outstrip the abillity to pay for it.
Japan's overall problems are very similar to the American social security issues on a lot of levels, and honestly there is no easy solution. Simply put the best move Japan can make is to simply leave things as they are now. There are SOME children to carry on. Things will get bad for a while, a lot of people will die, but in 50-60 years when the dust clears things will balance out and people will hopefully realize that it's a bad idea to let the population turn out like that again.
Someone also pointed out the issues with Japanese child care, and that is also valid, but it's not Japan specific. This is an international crisis, we're dealing with part of the back lash from "women's liberation" which hasn't been around all that long practically speaking. Truth be told SOMEONE has to care for the children, and if both parents work, that means you need a professional, and with all of the requirements for taking care of children, that service becomes very expensive (and it increases as laws for quality and such become tighter). It's not just the women though to be fair, even though women are better at taking care of children. It's society as a whole, since the world transitioned economically towards the idea of two income families. Simply deciding that one parent is going to stay home to raise a family is impossible given how the economy has changed.
America, Japan, Europe, it's everywhere. Unless a REAL world war happens (none of this police action stuff) and we see a massive reduction in people, expect things to do nothing but get worse.
At any rate, paying people to have kids is a REALLY bad move.
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At any rate, it is true that Japan's population has some serious problems for the reasons that are mentioned, but it's an internal logistical problem. Having kids would not solve it, but simply delay the inevitable until those kids grow old and need an even larger population to support them.
Your also looking to some extent at the whole problem with socialized medicine and such, any way you look at it in the end medicine takes resources, and someone has to pay those bills. The goverment needs the money to come from somewhere, and except in very unusual situations the demand for care is going to eventually outstrip the abillity to pay for it.
Japan's overall problems are very similar to the American social security issues on a lot of levels, and honestly there is no easy solution. Simply put the best move Japan can make is to simply leave things as they are now. There are SOME children to carry on. Things will get bad for a while, a lot of people will die, but in 50-60 years when the dust clears things will balance out and people will hopefully realize that it's a bad idea to let the population turn out like that again.
Someone also pointed out the issues with Japanese child care, and that is also valid, but it's not Japan specific. This is an international crisis, we're dealing with part of the back lash from "women's liberation" which hasn't been around all that long practically speaking. Truth be told SOMEONE has to care for the children, and if both parents work, that means you need a professional, and with all of the requirements for taking care of children, that service becomes very expensive (and it increases as laws for quality and such become tighter). It's not just the women though to be fair, even though women are better at taking care of children. It's society as a whole, since the world transitioned economically towards the idea of two income families. Simply deciding that one parent is going to stay home to raise a family is impossible given how the economy has changed.
America, Japan, Europe, it's everywhere. Unless a REAL world war happens (none of this police action stuff) and we see a massive reduction in people, expect things to do nothing but get worse.
At any rate, paying people to have kids is a REALLY bad move.
>>>----Therumancer--->
...no, the employees are not forced to have children. I also assume the company will make sure the child was born by the employee's wife, or if the employee was a girl she didn't get knocked up in order for a bonus.paypuh said:
Not only that, but there's an entire generation of Japanese that are single (men and women), have no intentions of getting married and so forth. It's kind of hard to do kids when you have nobody to help there. If you only took married couples, the fertility rate would be much closer to the replacement rate, but... well, when half of your population just decides to fap instead of playing that pesky human interaction game, you start having problems.yeah_so_no said:
Japan has always been xenophobic so they don't get the immigration boost the US has. The reason they don't have many if any kids is that they are surrounded with sex, and I mean pornographic not suggestive, in all types of media so they have gotten de-sensitized to intimacy and thus you have a generation of Hikkigamori (incorrect spelling but as close as I can figure it) which are boys who spend months on end holed up in their room never venturing out because they can stand the rigidity of Japanese society or their female counterparts who are called parasito (again incorrect spelling) who are women who recognizing that they are still second class citizens in Japan prefer to lavish themselves with luxurious things and travel abroad and refuse to be burdened by children. They make a very small minority on Japan but they are growing in number. Now I not saying that these people are bad they just choose to live a different and insular kind of life.
In America you have rigid control of pornography (at least before the web) but way more exposure to violence so you have psycho school shooters (again a very small portion of the community) and Lindsey Lohans drug fiends.
In America you have rigid control of pornography (at least before the web) but way more exposure to violence so you have psycho school shooters (again a very small portion of the community) and Lindsey Lohans drug fiends.