Kojima On Nintendo Switch: "It's The Gamer's Dream"

[Leg End]

Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

Whenever I leave the house, I'm now stuck riding the bus for several hours a day, usually just to do something that takes less than an hour to do when I get there. The Switch is the perfect thing to have with me for these long rides.

I suppose Switch would be a gamer's dream as long as the gamer lives alone or is the only gamer in the family. In that case - yes, I can see them crashing on a couch to play some Zelda or Splatoon and then taking the console out of its docking station to, I dunno, play some more on the way to school or work?
But what if you have a family and you are not the only gamer? You take the Switch outside and your spouse or children or parents get to wait till you come home?

How is that any different from any other system in that respect?

I dread to think what my wife would do to me if I did that and deprived her of her Splatoon fix.

Oh yeah, you're the guy with the wife who uses Discord for communication for Splatoon! Congrats on the great catch.

And it's not like you can easily afford a Switch for each playing family member, like you could with 3DS or Vita

You can't really afford it with either of those either. A brand new 3DS or Vita will set you back $200 alone, not including an SD card for the 3DS(or a goddamn charger for it, for fucks sake Nintendo) or those ungodly overpriced proprietary cards for the Vita. which will cost you half the system if you want to have 64GB. This is also before any games.

- not for the price of a fully-fledged home console.

$300 before MicroSD and games. Not a substantial increase, considering what you're actually getting. For something that powerful and can be taken with you on the fly at any moment? That's pretty worth it in my opinion, especially with kids that will be wanting to keep playing as you're trying to get them to go somewhere.

So it will have to stay at home all the time and become little more than just an overpriced underpowered home console with useless portability feature you probably don't want but have to pay for.

Again man, for kids, it's great. For adults that need a filler for long bouts of transportation, it's great. It's a great idea with some flaws in its execution, but it's still a great idea that I really hope takes off.

Cloud gaming isn't my idea of a gaming dream. I want games to be able to fully function offline. With the obvious exception of online multiplayer of course.

Bit of Devil's Advocate here but, if there could ever be a proper solution to different hardware and operating systems, I imagine it could be like how we can stream music, but also download for offline usage. Not ever going to happen but still.

 

[Rangaman]

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

What, 13 million units? Sorry bud but in order to sell worse than the Wii U, the Switch would have to ship with a man who punches you in the face every time you try to use it.

OT: It's great idea IMO, but "gamer's dream"? I'm pretty sure it would have to have the following to be a gamer's dream:
-Free online
-Backwards compatibility
-Decent VC selection
-A normal controller (that doesn't cost $100)
-A Pascal GPU

 

[Guffe]

OT: It's great idea IMO, but "gamer's dream"? I'm pretty sure it would have to have the following to be a gamer's dream

-A normal controller (that doesn't cost $100)

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

The problem is the execution. There is so many small and big things that Nintendo decided to do wrong that it killed the insane amount of hype I had.

Could you elaborate a bit, please??
I am sort of trying to convince myself not to buy it immediately

Mainly because I am having the opposite problem, I was curious but very careful at first, now the more I read about it from PAX and such I just want it more and more :/
The thing is I would use it mainly as a handheld, I play mainly on my WiiU on the tablet while my GF watches TV, so for me it would be a huge upgrade on the DS AND WiiU combined, being able to play AAA-titles on the go while still not taking away the TV from my GF, so both can do their thing.

 

[saltyanon]

the fact you can play something at home and take it outside,

But you could already do that with handhelds.

 

[Rangaman]

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

https://ebgames.com.au/nintendo-switch-217630-Nintendo-Switch-Pro-Controller-Switch

Indeed, the door is over there.

 

[bjj hero]

Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of times as an adult that I would play games. Lunch break at work, waiting room in the doctor's office, waiting for my flight at an airport, riding said flight, in between obligations (In my own personal case, in the time between my college classes and my work shift.)

Having access to games on the go is a nice thing to have. Plenty of people play games on the go as is. Smart phones and tablets are widely used for this, not to mention the noteworthy success of both the DS and 3DS.

So you are saying its a students dream then?

The only advantage I see is that I could play Zelda on the toilet. When Im out I am driving to or from where I am going and when I am there I am doing what I went to do.

Ive not been to the doctors waiting room for myself in at least 2 years, when I have been there it has been with my son or wife (same with the airport) so I would be ignoring them if I was playing switch.

This is definately not a console for grownups.

 

[Guffe]

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

https://ebgames.com.au/nintendo-switch-217630-Nintendo-Switch-Pro-Controller-Switch

Indeed, the door is over there.

But... but...
Their official site sais $69,95
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/buy-now/

Doesn't really matter though, that's a lot for a controller either way!

 

[nickpy]

And it's not like you can easily afford a Switch for each playing family member, like you could with 3DS or Vita

You can't really afford it with either of those either. A brand new 3DS or Vita will set you back $200 alone, not including an SD card for the 3DS(or a goddamn charger for it, for fucks sake Nintendo) or those ungodly overpriced proprietary cards for the Vita. which will cost you half the system if you want to have 64GB. This is also before any games.

idk about the USA and dollars, but here in the UK a 2DS costs ?80 brand new, less used. It is quite conceivable to get one of these per family member.

 

[Kenjitsuka]

"It's further behind right now than I think where people thought it would be at this point, but I think it will go there, and when the infrastructure is ready"

The infrastructure will never be 'ready', because there will always outtages; server problems, Internet hardware problems, hacks, DDoSes,LAG, bandwith caps...

Remember the launch of Diablo 3? Sim City? WoW expansions? The holiday weekend PSN outtage? The PSN creditcard info theft?

His system is truly ALWAYS ON, because your GPU/CPU is now not even in your own device anymore!!!

 

[Leg End]

idk about the USA and dollars, but here in the UK a 2DS costs ?80 brand new, less used. It is quite conceivable to get one of these per family member.

Sure, but there are newer 3DS games that run poorly on them and I'd feel like a jackass doing that to family. It is a good alternative however for extremely budget-minded people.

 

[Weaver]

I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder tbh. I want one but the money might be more useful right now as tax season approaches. I've also heard the joy cons are awful and there's no way i'll have another 100 CAD for a pro controller.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

I bet the Switch will be more successful than the Wii U within a year. All it has to do is exist, have a good Zelda game and that will be enough to see it past the 13 million Wii U's sold.

If it can match the Gamecube's sales the Switch will have been success, if it gets ahead of the N64 it will be a big success, any more than that and it will be far beyond my expectations.

As for MR Kojima, given what he seems to dream about this probably isn't a great endorsement.

 

[CaitSeith]

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

He never said it would.

 

[Makabriel]

This. So much this. I don't understand why the industry seems to think that cloud gaming is not only desirable but inevitable. Firstly, unless they start putting data centres serving these games in every major population centre we'll never get the lag down to acceptable levels for the majority of subscribers. Secondly, it means the publisher has total control over what we can and can't do and we'll have to keep paying a sub........

wait. I see why they want it so bad now.

In principle, if they can get it to work well I have no problem with Cloud Gaming as an option, but being the only option would be, in my opinion, a consumer nightmare not a gamer dream.

I applaud the tinfoil hat rant. It was entertaining.

It is partially true, though. Developers like it because they have control over a cloud environment. It allows them to push patches, fixes, etc faster. Easier to prevent hacking of the game, control content. It's a win-win.

 

[CaitSeith]

Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of times as an adult that I would play games. Lunch break at work, waiting room in the doctor's office, waiting for my flight at an airport, riding said flight, in between obligations (In my own personal case, in the time between my college classes and my work shift.)

Having access to games on the go is a nice thing to have. Plenty of people play games on the go as is. Smart phones and tablets are widely used for this, not to mention the noteworthy success of both the DS and 3DS.

So you are saying its a students dream then?

The only advantage I see is that I could play Zelda on the toilet. When Im out I am driving to or from where I am going and when I am there I am doing what I went to do.

Ive not been to the doctors waiting room for myself in at least 2 years, when I have been there it has been with my son or wife (same with the airport) so I would be ignoring them if I was playing switch.

This is definately not a console for grownups.

It's for Japanese grownups. Those people go to work by train and foot much more frequently than by car.

 

[CaitSeith]

This. So much this. I don't understand why the industry seems to think that cloud gaming is not only desirable but inevitable. Firstly, unless they start putting data centres serving these games in every major population centre we'll never get the lag down to acceptable levels for the majority of subscribers. Secondly, it means the publisher has total control over what we can and can't do and we'll have to keep paying a sub........

wait. I see why they want it so bad now.

In principle, if they can get it to work well I have no problem with Cloud Gaming as an option, but being the only option would be, in my opinion, a consumer nightmare not a gamer dream.

I applaud the tinfoil hat rant. It was entertaining.

It is partially true, though. Developers like it because they have control over a cloud environment. It allows them to push patches, fixes, etc faster. Easier to prevent hacking of the game, control content. It's a win-win.

Publishers like EA and WB makes me support the tinfoil guy more. It's developers who have the control, not developers.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

You know, the only good thing about the Switch is it's sort of portable. That's it. Oh, and it's got LAN play.

Hardware's really underpowered. There's pretty much 0 multimedia capabilities. No backwards compatibility. Ridiculously small storage. Online isn't free. And it's even expensive. (For the system itself, it's cheap, but the docking station for example is outrageously expensive.) Plus, it's already starting to earn some ire from developers [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.946248-Titanfall-on-Switch-Respawn-Says-F-CK-NO].

 

[WeepingAngels]

I have no interest in cloud gaming. That's a corporations dream.

Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I've heard it's just too big to fit in your pocket. I don't see many adults walking around with back packs either. It will be fine for off tv play but not to take it with you. As for kids using it? Do you often see kids playing a Nintendo handheld anymore, I don't and I doubt they are playing Nintendo consoles either. Adults are Nintendo's fanbase.

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

The fact that you can not find a Switch to prepurchase now and it's been that way for weeks pretty much shows a lot more success than the Wii U. Where it did have a lot of people just wondering why does the Wii need this tablet thing.

Wii U sold out pre-orders too, I wouldn't read too much into that.

 

[The White Hunter]

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

I actually think it will be more successfull than the WiiU
The WiiU did so poorly it isn't much of a challenge?

On Topic:
I doubt many will agree with what he is saying. I understand the part about being able to play any game anywhere, but "a gamers dream" would pretty much require the thing to be able to do everything gaming related... and maybe a little more.

It'd be hard pressed to do worse, it's already got a better presence and has been marketed far better already.

The Wii U really was marketed like shit, I barely new anyone outside of enthusiasts who frequent gaming sites who knew it was more than an add-on for the wii.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

then make something for it, Hideo. You can talk all you want but true praise is when you contribute.