At least sniper wolf could be thematicly linked to the old bond femme fatales. It was awful, but understandable. Kojimas just completely gone off the deep end with this one though. And they keep trying to act like Quiet is going to have some big secret, when we know she's going to be a generic broken bird because every female kojima writes is a cliche broken bird.BrotherRool said:It's going to be terribleYagami_Kira said:
I really wish someone had found a way to stop Kojima for doing this, it only got worse as the series has gone on. The days Sniper Wolf wandering around in the snow with her suit zipped down to the waist seem practically tasteful
Kojima Reveals Figurine Prototype of Metal Gear Solid V's Quiet
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at this point, I'm out of rage, out of words, out of patience. kojima, you are stupid and stupid. I'm not saying I support all of the "feminist" talk that's been going around our medium lately (I think the "outrage" over Lara Croft's sexual assault was stupid, and honestly, even the outrage over the Sexy nuns in Hitman was stupid. if they had just been scantily clad women, for that purpose only, then yeah, pointless sex fantasy, but the juxtaposition of sex symbol and nun, lead to not what I'd call INTERESTING characters, but at least their sexuality served a secondary purpose of subverting accepted notions of what nuns are. I'm not saying it wasn't kinda lame, but definitely not outrage worthy.
No no, you misunderstand!Casual Shinji said:
This is "tactical espionage armour"!
I mean, it just screams "black ops", "behind enemy lines" and "stealth missions"!
I am not that surprised that Quiet is what she is, Kojima (to me at any rate) always has depicted women in the strangest of ways (sometimes even creepy ways, remember the Beauty and the Beast unit?).
Once again proving that the Metal Gear series would be vastly improved with the addition of an editor so he stops doing stupid stuff like this.
They should do a figurine of naked Raiden from MGS2. Complete with cartwheel action. Anyway, I can't be upset about this. They've had Solid Snake and Big Boss show some skin as well in the past. Fan service seems to relatively work both ways in the Metal Gear universe.
Let's not forget sexy time with Master Miller.
Or Vamp with his S&M gear.
Solid Snake's lovingly sculpted booty.
Honestly, anyone complaining likely isn't very familiar with the series and the fact that sexuality has always been thrown into it.
I shall leave you all with a quote by Revolver Ocelot from MGS1.
"There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber..."
Let's not forget sexy time with Master Miller.
Honestly, anyone complaining likely isn't very familiar with the series and the fact that sexuality has always been thrown into it.
I shall leave you all with a quote by Revolver Ocelot from MGS1.
"There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber..."
Oh Kojima, you were doing so well. Now you have lost a large portion of my respect. Do you really think the sort of people that play your games do so for the gratuitous nudity? Even Call of Duty doesn't sink this low. There, I said it.
That design looks lame as hell. Congrats Kojima if that's what you were going for, I guess.
Considering there are porn movies featuring video game characters, I wonder if at some point a dev decides to specifically target the porn industry when they design a character. "Oh, well yes. Our aim is to sell figurines and get as many porn adaptations as possible. Sex sells."
Considering there are porn movies featuring video game characters, I wonder if at some point a dev decides to specifically target the porn industry when they design a character. "Oh, well yes. Our aim is to sell figurines and get as many porn adaptations as possible. Sex sells."
I don't see what everyone is so upset about. Clearly when Quiet isn't shooting bad guys she's a volunteer lifeguard.
As a lifeguard you never know when you're going to have to dive in the ocean or a swimming pool and save someone's life. Trust me here, seconds count. There's no time to strip off 100 pounds of combat gear when lives are on the line. Not only is a miniature bikini practical for swimming, it's also great for beating the tropical heat.
Just make the check out to cash, Mr. Kojima. You're welcome.
As a lifeguard you never know when you're going to have to dive in the ocean or a swimming pool and save someone's life. Trust me here, seconds count. There's no time to strip off 100 pounds of combat gear when lives are on the line. Not only is a miniature bikini practical for swimming, it's also great for beating the tropical heat.
Just make the check out to cash, Mr. Kojima. You're welcome.
Holy shit, not you too, Escapist?
"Oh no, cleavage! Surely this is nothing more than masturbatory aid and a lazy design!"
Are we forgetting Sniper Wolf, EVA, the B&B Corps? And how can we forget the girls-only model viewer (complete with underwear/swimsuit variant) in Peace Walker? Quiet is by no means the only 'sexy' character in this franchise. Hell, even the males in this series are sexed up (Raiden, Vamp, Kaz Miller, Solid Snake's sculpted ass, Naked Snake); in other words, this is nothing new, and I feel the backlash on her design is just people hopping on the feminism bandwagon.
There is a purpose for her design (looking at the trailer, she might have chameleon powers). The model has confirmed as much and if you can't accept that maybe showing a little skin could be used for more than looking good, I'd say you need to chill the fuck out and stop being so reactionary.
I'm getting real sick of this "don't offend me!" bullshit.
OT: That figure doesn't look very good, prototype or otherwise. Then again, I guess Play Arts Kai hasn't been the best at what they do [http://www.tomopop.com/ul/27662-tomopop-review-play-arts-kai-commander-shepard/IMG_7535-620x.jpg].
"Oh no, cleavage! Surely this is nothing more than masturbatory aid and a lazy design!"
Are we forgetting Sniper Wolf, EVA, the B&B Corps? And how can we forget the girls-only model viewer (complete with underwear/swimsuit variant) in Peace Walker? Quiet is by no means the only 'sexy' character in this franchise. Hell, even the males in this series are sexed up (Raiden, Vamp, Kaz Miller, Solid Snake's sculpted ass, Naked Snake); in other words, this is nothing new, and I feel the backlash on her design is just people hopping on the feminism bandwagon.
There is a purpose for her design (looking at the trailer, she might have chameleon powers). The model has confirmed as much and if you can't accept that maybe showing a little skin could be used for more than looking good, I'd say you need to chill the fuck out and stop being so reactionary.
I'm getting real sick of this "don't offend me!" bullshit.
OT: That figure doesn't look very good, prototype or otherwise. Then again, I guess Play Arts Kai hasn't been the best at what they do [http://www.tomopop.com/ul/27662-tomopop-review-play-arts-kai-commander-shepard/IMG_7535-620x.jpg].
Fascinating how it's the only confirmed woman in the game who has the chameleon powers that require her to be semi-nude at all times. It's almost as if it was by design.The_Echo said:
I'll concede that there is the slimmest possible chance Kojima might surprise me. But seeing as I think almost everything he's done since MGS3 has been self-indulgent nonsense, I don't have high hopes.
One theory floating around is that she was undercover, got subjected to the obligatory MGS naked torture scene and escaped, being forced to improvise clothing out of the tattered remains of her dress.
Which would be a fine way to explain her get up until the inevitable murdering happens and she doesn't even take a jacket from the fallen.......
Which would be a fine way to explain her get up until the inevitable murdering happens and she doesn't even take a jacket from the fallen.......
Yeah, this is just Hideo Kojima doing his thing. Remember Solid Snake's perfectly sculpted buttocks showing through his sexy skin-tight sneaking suit? Everyone's favourite bishonen Raiden's naked escape mission? Raikov and Volgin? Revolver ocelot wanting to slam his silver bullet into a greased chamber (that line gets me every time)? Vamp, a gay vampire wearing full blown S&M gear licking Raiden's white goo of his knife? The Beauty and the Beast "photomodel" sequences? Kazahura Miller in a speedo? Sniper Wolf's overflowing cleavage in the middle of Alaska?
I mean, gosh, this is pretty tame compared to his earlier stuff. It's just a black bikini with some ripped stockings. But I have to admit that it looks incredibly stupid...
I mean, gosh, this is pretty tame compared to his earlier stuff. It's just a black bikini with some ripped stockings. But I have to admit that it looks incredibly stupid...
People here negatively commenting must have never played the MGS series. At all.
I get that video games often use the imagery of women in a sexualized light, but must we get mad at every female character who shows skin? Who knows. Maybe this character is like EVA from MGS 3 in the sense that she uses her sexuality as well as it being a part of her character. It might be, you know, well written like EVA was?
Seriously let's not act like none of us has ever played a game, seen a movie, or watched a TV show because cleavage or midriff was shown. I didn't throw away my controller in moral disgust when I saw SkullGirls or most Japanese fighting games ever made. I played good fighting games. I didn't write Joss Whedon an angry letter when I saw this:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is still a good show that treats female characters like human beings.
And I know no one got angry when that long run of Dr. Who companions was comprised of gorgeous women. Why? Because they were great actors who had a damn good script to work with.
When did it become ok for gamers to cry like children about aspects of a game when it hasn't even shown us gameplay yet?
Sometimes I think gamers attack video games more than the mass media does.
Can we bring it down a couple notches before this gets as stupid as the dMc fan reaction?
I get that video games often use the imagery of women in a sexualized light, but must we get mad at every female character who shows skin? Who knows. Maybe this character is like EVA from MGS 3 in the sense that she uses her sexuality as well as it being a part of her character. It might be, you know, well written like EVA was?
Seriously let's not act like none of us has ever played a game, seen a movie, or watched a TV show because cleavage or midriff was shown. I didn't throw away my controller in moral disgust when I saw SkullGirls or most Japanese fighting games ever made. I played good fighting games. I didn't write Joss Whedon an angry letter when I saw this:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is still a good show that treats female characters like human beings.
And I know no one got angry when that long run of Dr. Who companions was comprised of gorgeous women. Why? Because they were great actors who had a damn good script to work with.
When did it become ok for gamers to cry like children about aspects of a game when it hasn't even shown us gameplay yet?
Sometimes I think gamers attack video games more than the mass media does.
Can we bring it down a couple notches before this gets as stupid as the dMc fan reaction?
The impracticality of her outfit has gone into parody territory. Why do i get the feeling Kojima is trollin' us on purpose when he picked the outfit.
Well, since they're making figurines, hey Kojima can you make this:
a figurine? and an unlockable outfit for snake. It's only fair~
Well, since they're making figurines, hey Kojima can you make this:
a figurine? and an unlockable outfit for snake. It's only fair~
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Dude, Buffy doesn't wear that outfit in the show and Joss Whedon didn't design the outfit. Bad example.
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I assume she is not going to be moving a lot in the game considering her top is not supportive enough. That, or the top is superglued on her breasts. Totally curious to hear the explanation. "Yeah, she staples it on early in the game."
Dude, Buffy doesn't wear that outfit in the show and Joss Whedon didn't design the outfit. Bad example.
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I assume she is not going to be moving a lot in the game considering her top is not supportive enough. That, or the top is superglued on her breasts. Totally curious to hear the explanation. "Yeah, she staples it on early in the game."
Reminds me of an old article by Yahtzee about how Kojima is totally fucking balls-out weird when it comes to women. This is the perfect representation of that. Now honestly, I'm not going to ***** about it, because it really just is Kojima's "thing", and I'm cynical so I don't think it'll make any difference to him. If the things I've heard about her skin being a natural octocamo are true though, that might lend a little credit to the guy however. Need to see when it comes out.
Oh, hey, look, pantsu. That's pretty hot, actually. But the tragedy is it still doesn't distract me enough to forget that you said you'd make a ZOE 3 when you were done with the last MGS game. Don't get me wrong, Revengece was, a nice side project. But, every time I say the name "Jehuty" it gets more and more obscure.