Koller Disses DSi

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John Koller hasn't been making many popular decisions lately as those of us who follow the PSP blogs know, but he has released a statement where he critiques the way Nintendo is marketing the DSi, and its targeted audience, and talks about how Sony is doing what Nintendo fails to do.


Koller said:
If Nintendo is really committed to reaching a broader, more diverse audience of gamers beyond the "kids" market that they've always engaged, there isn't much new with the DSi to support that. Significant gamer demographic groups are being ignored, and there continues to be limited opportunities for games from external publishers to do well on the DSi. Compare that with the PSP platform, where we have many blockbuster franchises from our publishing partners launching this year, representing a wide variety of genres and targeting diverse demographics. Games such as Rock Band Unplugged from MTV Games, Assassin's Creed from Ubisoft, Dissidia Final Fantasy from Square Enix, and Hannah Montana from Disney demonstrate the commitment that publishers have to the PSP. From our own first-party studios, we're launching unique versions of LittleBigPlanet and MotorStorm, and we're also planning a steady stream of downloadable games ? both new titles and PSone classics ? to add to the content that PSP owners can already purchase wirelessly through PlayStation Store.
In short, Koller is showing off Sony's 1st party titles along with some other ones to show off the PSP's variety of games and effectively stomping all over the DS's catalog of mini-game collabs, Mario titles, and "kiddie games". Koller makes a good point by pointing the DS's biggest shortcoming, mainly its lack of diversity in it's titles.

http://kotaku.com/5198631/sony-gets-chippy-on-eve-of-dsi-release
 

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On the contrary, Sony made it too easy to emulate non PSP games on the PSP. The reason why the PSP is less popular for third party developers.
 

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orannis62 said:
Hasn't the PSP sold, like, not even a fraction of the DS?
50 million units...thats half of what the DS has sold. You may think thats nothing but that fact that it's sold as much as the PS3 and Xbox combined and has lasted this long as a hand held competitor to nintendo is something worth commending.

Rational-Delirium said:
On the contrary, Sony made it too easy to emulate non PSP games on the PSP. The reason why the PSP is less popular for third party developers.
It's as easy, if not easier, to hack a DS with R4 cards. The main reason why it's "less popular" is because A) nintendo and gameboy make MONEY and devs know this and can exploit this to the limit, B) Sony's PR is SHIT, C) 2009 is a major turnaround for the system, and if you look at place other than NA, the PSP is doing exceptionally well
 

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-Seraph- said:
orannis62 said:
Hasn't the PSP sold, like, not even a fraction of the DS?
50 million units...thats half of what the DS has sold. You may think thats nothing but that fact that it's sold as much as the PS3 and Xbox combined and has lasted this long as a hand held competitor to nintendo is something worth commending.
Oh. I didn't know the precise numbers, that's more than I thought.
 

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Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
 

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Simriel said:
Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
*holds back massive rage* No....just...NO. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. If you don't pay attention, like many people dont, it seems that way. It's the same if you don't pay attention to any other system, it comes off as unappealing and seems to have nothing for it. The damn thing is far from dead, like I said, sony's PR is pure SHITE and doesn't know how to market.
 

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Rational-Delirium said:
On the contrary, Sony made it too easy to emulate non PSP games on the PSP. The reason why the PSP is less popular for third party developers.
There is no system easier to pirate and emulate games then a DS. I'm pretty sure that's not the reason.
 

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Gormourn said:
And PSP has more modern stuff like, I dunno, GTA (which I don't like much) and one of my favorite time waster games, Worms.
Guess you weren't informed that the DS just came out with a GTA game. And it's fantastic.

Also, I've never heard anybody say the PSP has better games then a DS. But, to each their own. Although, if you didn't know about the new GTA game, I'd say that maybe brushing up on the releases might not be a bad idea.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
*holds back massive rage* No....just...NO. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. If you don't pay attention, like many people dont, it seems that way. It's the same if you don't pay attention to any other system, it comes off as unappealing and seems to have nothing for it. The damn thing is far from dead, like I said, sony's PR is pure SHITE and doesn't know how to market.
Gormourn said:
I kind of agree. I'm not much into hand helds, hell, I don't even have any of the new ones. And I gave away the old one to my brother who's into retro games. Don't even remember the name.
I'm going to be perfectly honest in saying: 90% of my PSP use is for portable porn.


And PSP has more modern stuff like, I dunno, GTA (which I don't like much).
Really? That's odd, for some reason I feel like the DS just got my favorite GTA insofar as a console exclusive.

I've got nothing really against the PSP, and in actuality it's a good system, my only real problem is that I never use it, and that really it went from my favorite portable to my least in 2 yeras. The Last great game for it was Portable Ops, and after that it lost me with either trying to be the gritty system or the indie system. I would play it all the time if I could use homebrew on it, but Sony made it so that I can't. So why should I care?
 

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Gormourn said:
runtheplacered said:
Gormourn said:
And PSP has more modern stuff like, I dunno, GTA (which I don't like much) and one of my favorite time waster games, Worms.
Guess you weren't informed that the DS just came out with a GTA game. And it's fantastic.

Also, I've never heard anybody say the PSP has better games then a DS. But, to each their own. Although, if you didn't know about the new GTA game, I'd say that maybe brushing up on the releases might not be a bad idea.
Just as I said before, I do not like GTA series and I don't quite care about the handhelds. I was just commenting on how, based on my own limited experience, DS seemed to have old games with crappy graphics. And I don't know how addicted you have to be to play through final fantasy games a few hundred times, with sonic as a side dish. I wouldn't do it, but I guess some people would do anything.
That's OK if you don't know much about handhelds, I can understand that. I didn't care much before I got one, either. But are you saying that the DS only has Sonic and Final Fantasy games or "old games with crappy graphics"? Why are you making such a strange assumption (which isn't accurate, by the way), if you're also claiming ignorant on the subject? That's like saying, "The DS sucks, but you can't flame me because I don't know anything!" Why say anything, then? Or, better yet, research the topic then say something.

It appears very childish to me to make fun of something when you obviously have 0 knowledge in the department in which you're making fun.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
*holds back massive rage* No....just...NO. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. If you don't pay attention, like many people dont, it seems that way. It's the same if you don't pay attention to any other system, it comes off as unappealing and seems to have nothing for it. The damn thing is far from dead, like I said, sony's PR is pure SHITE and doesn't know how to market.
I've been to stores where they barely have PSP games and movies. I can say it's dying.
 

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Darkrai said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
*holds back massive rage* No....just...NO. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. If you don't pay attention, like many people dont, it seems that way. It's the same if you don't pay attention to any other system, it comes off as unappealing and seems to have nothing for it. The damn thing is far from dead, like I said, sony's PR is pure SHITE and doesn't know how to market.
I've been to stores where they barely have PSP games and movies. I can say it's dying.
And I have had the exact opposite. you can't say it's dying because you do not see much attention drawn towards it. Go ahead and say it's dying, fact is, it's NOT.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Darkrai said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
Isn't it basically know than the PSP has died and is used as a media player?
*holds back massive rage* No....just...NO. I hear this all the time and it's just not true. If you don't pay attention, like many people dont, it seems that way. It's the same if you don't pay attention to any other system, it comes off as unappealing and seems to have nothing for it. The damn thing is far from dead, like I said, sony's PR is pure SHITE and doesn't know how to market.
I've been to stores where they barely have PSP games and movies. I can say it's dying.
And I have had the exact opposite. you can't say it's dying because you do not see much attention drawn towards it. Go ahead and say it's dying, fact is, it's NOT.
Listen, we get you feel strongly about this, but you haven't shown any proof against his argument.

He said that because he sees little retail over the PSP, that it's on it's way to the grave (I'm inclined to agree).
However you say that he's wrong because there's more attention drawn to it, but what attention? You have to back up your claims.
 

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Proof, look at sales figures. The is no shortage of support for it and the system is steaduly growing. it's in the same situation as the PS3 is/was, sony has not given up support for it and it by no means dying. 50 million units and still selling doesn't look like a dying figure to me, especially when its outsold the PS3 and Xbox combined. And how many times must i bring up the fact that Sony's PR is SHIT? seriously what the fuck happened to them!?

i see little retail of PC games lately, does that mean PC gaming is dying? No, but some may be inclined to think so.
 

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What do you mean little reaitl of PC? I see lots of it. Especially with the increase of popularity in mmos and other online games.
 

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Well according to Darkrai's logic, I can say PC gaming is dying because i see little promotion for it where I live. I was merely making a point by stating that, now you see what i mean by PSP "dying" not being true.

EDIT: although yes, around were I live the PC game selection and shelves are tiny in every retail store i go to. but this comparison can be interchangeable for any system depending on where you live. see.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Well according to Darkrai's logic, I can say PC gaming is dying because i see little promotion for it where I live. I was merely making a point by stating that, now you see what i mean by PSP "dying" not being true.
No, I don't see what you mean. I think the PSP is not far from a lynching not because of retail I see, but instead a lack of games that are really "spectacular"

Let me explain: It seems like every week a game comes out for the DS, and gets quite a lot of attention. When I read, say GameInformer, their "Handheld of the Month" always seems to be a DS game, but rarely to never a PSP game.

I also feel that the PSP is dying by going by pattern recognition. I mean, Sege failed to beat the gameboy, and so did every other attempt.

The Gamegear has a following, but there will never be another Sega handheld.