Koller Disses DSi

[pantsoffdanceoff]

I'm going to be perfectly honest in saying: 90% of my PSP use is for portable porn.

You know what?, fuck it, I want to be like you when I grow up.

 

[42manZ]

I'm going to be perfectly honest in saying: 90% of my PSP use is for portable porn.

You know what?, fuck it, I want to be like you when I grow up.

I wish that these boards had a signature for our posts that I could put that in.

 

[-Seraph-]

Well according to Darkrai's logic, I can say PC gaming is dying because i see little promotion for it where I live. I was merely making a point by stating that, now you see what i mean by PSP "dying" not being true.

No, I don't see what you mean. I think the PSP is not far from a lynching not because of retail I see, but instead a lack of games that are really "spectacular"

Let me explain: It seems like every week a game comes out for the DS, and gets quite a lot of attention. When I read, say GameInformer, their "Handheld of the Month" always seems to be a DS game, but rarely to never a PSP game.

I also feel that the PSP is dying by going by pattern recognition. I mean, Sege failed to beat the gameboy, and so did every other attempt.

The Gamegear has a following, but there will never be another Sega handheld.

Your game of the month argument is irrelevant. That and the PSP is in no shortage of games, the DS simply gets more attention because ITS THE FUCKING DS (Didn't mean it in a rude manner). Also that sort of pessimism of previous consoles does not help, in order for there to be success people must embrace it. if they simply always look at past failures, nothing short of pessimism arises. The past failures of others does not automatically mean the failure of the next.

Also it's absolutely stupid to think sony would beat the DS with it's first hand held. Nintendo has almost 20 years under it's belt, it deserves it's place, but there is nothing wrong with competition. Anyone who thought sony was going to be instant success and overthrow Nintendo like they did for the past 2 console generations is a fool. These things take time, and it's good to see some competition and choice.

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

EDIT: To clarify my "aggressiveness" in this mater and my defense for the PSP, yes i do proudly own one and highly enjoy it, but I come to it's defense because of the many misconceptions I see of it, and I hate it when people do this. The same goes for any other console for that matter. I can't tolerate misconceptions or hate for any system and I would jump to the defense of the DS or Wii at any time if i see harsh treatment to them as well.

 

[42manZ]

Your game of the month argument is irrelevant. That and the PSP is in no shortage of games, the DS simply gets more attention because ITS THE FUCKING DS (Didn't mean it in a rude manner). Also that sort of pessimism of previous consoles does not help, in order for there to be success people must embrace it. if they simply always look at past failures, nothing short of pessimism arises. The past failures of others does not automatically mean the failure of the next.

Also it's absolutely stupid to think sony would beat the DS with it's first hand held. Nintendo has almost 20 years under it's belt, it deserves it's place, but there is nothing wrong with competition. Anyone who thought sony was going to be instant success and overthrow Nintendo like they did for the past 2 console generations is a fool. These things take time, and it's good to see some competition and choice.

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

Man, the conversation was so much better when we were talking about portable porn.

My message from Indigo Dingo:

Indigo_Dingo:

I'm going to be perfectly honest in saying: 90% of my PSP use is for portable porn.

Seriously, under what circumstances do you need portable porn? Are you depraved enough that you're gonna watch it on the bus? Do you need stmulation for masturbating in public?

Actually No, a lot of the time I find myself passed out in different places. DIfferent bedrooms, different house and different alley ways. And I have terrible morning wood. So, yeah, I live an empty shell of a life through alcoholism and drug addictions.

Nah, I'm messing, I don't actually use portable porn, but it just seemed stupid just to say "porn" by itself when I can just use my computer.

that was tits.

Now, where were we?

Oh yes, sales numbers.
Well, I'm going to call your numbers bullshit, mainly because you called my argument bullshit. The "handheld of the month" thing wasn't the important part.

anywho, I don't think sales numbers count in this modern age of gaming, since consloes and game can easily be sold back to a gamestore.

So, in closing of this post I decided to quote a great literary poet of our times:

"Do you need stmulation for masturbating in public?" - Indigo Dingo

Oh Indigo Dingo, you make me cry.

 

[-Seraph-]

those numbers arent BS I guarantee you. And I didn't really call your argument BS, simply trying to clarify the same old arguments i keep hearing that were relevant about 3 years ago. Don;t believe those numbers? look em up yourself.

Although i will agree with you that it is a good portable porn device lol. I don't use mine for such a thing but i am not surprised that some do heh.

 

[42manZ]

Your game of the month argument is irrelevant.

And I didn't really call your argument BS,

I'm sorry about not remembering your exact words.

Although i will agree with you that it is a good portable porn device lol. I don't use mine for such a thing but i am not surprised that some do heh.

Side conversation: What's better vagina or mangina?

 

[-Seraph-]

The hell does that have to do with anything? But to answer, vagina obviously.

 

[42manZ]

The hell does that have to do with anything? But to answer, vagina obviously.

will you please stay on-topic?

 

[VoltySquirrel]

Well according to Darkrai's logic, I can say PC gaming is dying because i see little promotion for it where I live. I was merely making a point by stating that, now you see what i mean by PSP "dying" not being true.

No, I don't see what you mean. I think the PSP is not far from a lynching not because of retail I see, but instead a lack of games that are really "spectacular"

Let me explain: It seems like every week a game comes out for the DS, and gets quite a lot of attention. When I read, say GameInformer, their "Handheld of the Month" always seems to be a DS game, but rarely to never a PSP game.

I also feel that the PSP is dying by going by pattern recognition. I mean, Sege failed to beat the gameboy, and so did every other attempt.

The Gamegear has a following, but there will never be another Sega handheld.

Your game of the month argument is irrelevant. That and the PSP is in no shortage of games, the DS simply gets more attention because ITS THE FUCKING DS (Didn't mean it in a rude manner). Also that sort of pessimism of previous consoles does not help, in order for there to be success people must embrace it. if they simply always look at past failures, nothing short of pessimism arises. The past failures of others does not automatically mean the failure of the next.

Also it's absolutely stupid to think sony would beat the DS with it's first hand held. Nintendo has almost 20 years under it's belt, it deserves it's place, but there is nothing wrong with competition. Anyone who thought sony was going to be instant success and overthrow Nintendo like they did for the past 2 console generations is a fool. These things take time, and it's good to see some competition and choice.

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

EDIT: To clarify my "aggressiveness" in this mater and my defense for the PSP, yes i do proudly own one and highly enjoy it, but I come to it's defense because of the many misconceptions I see of it, and I hate it when people do this. The same goes for any other console for that matter. I can't tolerate misconceptions or hate for any system and I would jump to the defense of the DS or Wii at any time if i see harsh treatment to them as well.

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP's good games is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

 

[keyper159]

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

Of course people with DS's are going to play games. Thats all they can do. Even though your 12 friends that own PSPs use them for Multimedia purposes it doesn't mean that PSP < DS. It still sells because it has more than just gaming.

 

[Moormur]

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

I would have to disagree with you here.

There's more to sales than just the units of hardware sold. There is the software component. That is where the PSP falls on its face. It is generally accepted by people I know that A) The controls on the PSP stink so much that the B) very few good games for the PSP give only so much enjoyment before heading to the sell bin.

 

[VoltySquirrel]

Let me explain: It seems like every week a game comes out for the DS, and gets quite a lot of attention. When I read, say GameInformer, their "Handheld of the Month" always seems to be a DS game, but rarely to never a PSP game.

I also feel that the PSP is dying by going by pattern recognition. I mean, Sege failed to beat the gameboy, and so did every other attempt.

The Gamegear has a following, but there will never be another Sega handheld.

Your game of the month argument is irrelevant. That and the PSP is in no shortage of games, the DS simply gets more attention because ITS THE FUCKING DS (Didn't mean it in a rude manner). Also that sort of pessimism of previous consoles does not help, in order for there to be success people must embrace it. if they simply always look at past failures, nothing short of pessimism arises. The past failures of others does not automatically mean the failure of the next.

Also it's absolutely stupid to think sony would beat the DS with it's first hand held. Nintendo has almost 20 years under it's belt, it deserves it's place, but there is nothing wrong with competition. Anyone who thought sony was going to be instant success and overthrow Nintendo like they did for the past 2 console generations is a fool. These things take time, and it's good to see some competition and choice.

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

EDIT: To clarify my "aggressiveness" in this mater and my defense for the PSP, yes i do proudly own one and highly enjoy it, but I come to it's defense because of the many misconceptions I see of it, and I hate it when people do this. The same goes for any other console for that matter. I can't tolerate misconceptions or hate for any system and I would jump to the defense of the DS or Wii at any time if i see harsh treatment to them as well.

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

Of course people with DS's are going to play games. Thats all they can do. Even though you 12 friends that own PSPs use them for Multimedia purposes it doesn't mean that PSP < DS it still sells because it has more than just gaming.[/quote]
True, but if I wanted a multimedia device with decent (and cheaper) games, I'd just get an iPhone. Heck, at least that has a decent movie selection.

 

[keyper159]

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

I would have to disagree with you here.

There's more to sales than just the units of hardware sold. There is the software component. That is where the PSP falls on its face. It is generally accepted by people I know that A) The controls on the PSP stink so much that the B) very few good games for the PSP give only so much enjoyment before heading to the sell bin.

Controls on the PSP aren't bad, unless you're playing a FPS. That genre is really one of the few places the PSP falls on its face.

 

[Jumplion]

The hell does that have to do with anything? But to answer, vagina obviously.

will you please stay on-topic?

Iroonnyyy~

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

I always see this, "my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming! Therefore, it's not as good as the DS because they use their DS for gaming!"

Is it possible that maybe, maybe, the PSP has functionalities other than gaming? Possibly? So then, maybe it could appeal to a wider audience of techno-junkies? Face it, the DSi probably would have come alot later if the PSP hadn't been on the market and shown that a competitor can face against Nintendo, with apparantly half their potential sales.

Using your PSP for movies/porn isn't a bad thing, just like how using a PS3 as a blu-ray player isn't a bad thing, or, dare I say it, using a PS2 as a DVD player isn't a bad thing.

Quite frankly, I'd rather have a PSP than my DS right now as it has 10x more games that I want for it than my DS. To each his own, but please don't confuse games that you personally aren't interested in to games that are available overall.

But, anywho, this guy is sortof like that one Microsoft guy who was smashing Killzone 2 and the PS3 at the same time, only he's actually naming some games that are coming out for the system.

 

[-Seraph-]

Who says i was raging? I was completely calm throughout this entire discussion and i made that clear. Each and almost every point I made and even some of the points of the "nay sayers" (cant think of a better way to describe it) are completely valid and true. I too know plenty of people who won DS's and PSP's who love them, hate them, use them often or don't use them at all. I know it's all matter of preference but I cant condone the slagging of any gaming device, they are all equally good.

I would have to disagree with you here.

There's more to sales than just the units of hardware sold. There is the software component. That is where the PSP falls on its face. It is generally accepted by people I know that A) The controls on the PSP stink so much that the B) very few good games for the PSP give only so much enjoyment before heading to the sell bin.

The software sales are fine. PSP controls stink!? wtf?! I have played tons of games on the thing and it's no different than any other gaming device!! If your implying the constrols of the system itself are awkward i need only point to the GBA and ask you to explain why that system was never nagged at.

Controls on the PSP aren't bad, unless you're playing a FPS. That genre is really one of the few places the PSP falls on its face.

Thats why all the good shooters are Third person. Syphon Filter, Killzone Liberation and Resistance Retribution want to have a word with you...

 

[keyper159]

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

Of course people with DS's are going to play games. Thats all they can do. Even though you 12 friends that own PSPs use them for Multimedia purposes it doesn't mean that PSP < DS it still sells because it has more than just gaming.

True, but if I wanted a multimedia device with decent (and cheaper) games, I'd just get an iPhone. Heck, at least that has a decent movie selection.[/quote]

The PSN Video library has over 1500 movies, some of which aren't on Itunes, and same for TV shows. But the iPhone does have more of a DS style selection of games, some are even straight knockoffs of Nintendo games.

 

[VoltySquirrel]

Who says i was raging? I was completely calm throughout this entire discussion and i made that clear. Each and almost every point I made and even some of the points of the "nay sayers" (cant think of a better way to describe it) are completely valid and true. I too know plenty of people who won DS's and PSP's who love them, hate them, use them often or don't use them at all. I know it's all matter of preference but I cant condone the slagging of any gaming device, they are all equally good.

Just a joke about the raging thing. But you do make a good point.

 

[42manZ]

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

Of course people with DS's are going to play games. Thats all they can do. Even though your 12 friends that own PSPs use them for Multimedia purposes it doesn't mean that PSP < DS. It still sells because it has more than just gaming.

You know what Keyper?

You turned me around. You can do more than game on the PSP: you can watch movies at a volume just above inaudible (yes, I am talking from experience) and yes you can look at porn on them, and then after that you can... listen to music? Or look at photos? Stuf that's not very interesting?

Shouldn't the point of having a game console be to play games on it?

 

[Moormur]

Also you wanted numbers? fine: (I got these from wikipedia but hey, I find them trustworthy enough when it comes to these things.)

DS - 100 million

PSP- 50 million

Wii - 50 million

PS3- 21.3 million

Xbox360 - 27.93

The fact that the system has lasted this long and has sold as much to match that of consoles is both impressive and enough proof to show it's not going anywhere any time soon.

I would have to disagree with you here.

There's more to sales than just the units of hardware sold. There is the software component. That is where the PSP falls on its face. It is generally accepted by people I know that A) The controls on the PSP stink so much that the B) very few good games for the PSP give only so much enjoyment before heading to the sell bin.

Controls on the PSP aren't bad, unless you're playing a FPS. That genre is really one of the few places the PSP falls on its face.

I should emphasize that I don't have personal experience using PSP controls...I'm going on hearsay. I'll take your word for it

 

[VoltySquirrel]

The hell does that have to do with anything? But to answer, vagina obviously.

will you please stay on-topic?

Iroonnyyy~

You rage, you lose.
Sorry, but seriously, chill the ef out.
P.S. Based on personal experience, EVERY single one of my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming. And I know about 12 people with PSPs. Meanwhile, I have at least 15 friends who own a DS and play games on it all the time. Some of them even own both, favoring the DS. And sure, the DS has its fare share of shovel-ware like the Wii, but there is an abundance of good games on the DS, while the PSP is fewer and farther between (based on personal preferences.)

I always see this, "my friends use their PSP for everything but gaming! Therefore, it's not as good as the DS because they use their DS for gaming!"

Is it possible that maybe, maybe, the PSP has functionalities other than gaming? Possibly? So then, maybe it could appeal to a wider audience of techno-junkies? Face it, the DSi probably would have come alot later if the PSP hadn't been on the market and shown that a competitor can face against Nintendo, with apparantly half their potential sales.

Using your PSP for movies/porn isn't a bad thing, just like how using a PS3 as a blu-ray player isn't a bad thing, or, dare I say it, using a PS2 as a DVD player isn't a bad thing.

Quite frankly, I'd rather have a PSP than my DS right now as it has 10x more games that I want for it than my DS. To each his own, but please don't confuse games that you personally aren't interested in to games that are available overall.

But, anywho, this guy is sortof like that one Microsoft guy who was smashing Killzone 2 and the PS3 at the same time, only he's actually naming some games that are coming out for the system.

Did I ever say I hated the PSP? Hell, I think its a wonderful system, with quite a few things going for it. I just think, in my opinion, the game selection is... less than stellar. The multimedia stuff is cool, but for me, games first, features second.