yeah this law seems almost impossible to enforce, on the other hand, it might actually be good for the kids in Korea if they didn't play so much and focused on other thing
Korea Sets Curfew for Underage Gamers
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Have to say...good.
Perhaps the curfew is a bit early, but I really think limiting late night sessions is a good thing for kids growing up. (And this is not just me talking as an adult - I'd do it to myself at that age)
Perhaps the curfew is a bit early, but I really think limiting late night sessions is a good thing for kids growing up. (And this is not just me talking as an adult - I'd do it to myself at that age)
I declare this to the greatest false flag project of today. If there is ever a way to research how a large number of children can effectively lie about their age on the internet to get access to *cough* sites containing more mature aspect of modern living (ahem) this will surely be it.
Amazing, yes. Very few people, also yes. I just stoped FPS games online because I have been called a "fag" more times there than my real name in life.ExplosionProofTaco said:
OT: This seems silly to me. I do remember some legal precident from a case in the USA (Which I guess wouldn't apply) that states something to the nature of "Just because the interist of the children are at stake, the state cannot play the role of the parent"
I can't help but laugh when I hear sentences like this. We're so concerned about people losing their lives to videogames we don't even consider the alternatives, especially the plank-in-the-eye example that is the U.S.'s national obsession with sports(though other countries have this to lesser levels). I know people think sports are inherently great and healthy and fun, but sports have injured and killed more people than video games ever have.SteelStallion said:
Benefits of Sports: Physical growth, socialization.SteelStallion said:
Cons of Sports: Physical Stunting, Superiority Complexes, possible death.
Benefits of Games(specifically RTS's): Mental Growth, especially in the area of multi-tasking and threat analysis, Socialization through online gaming(what the sport is based around), enhanced decision making.
Cons of Games: Physical Stagnation, higher risk of OCD, increased risk of disease.
All in all, I'd say they are at least comparable in risk vs. payoff. Sports are just more societally acceptable because they've been around longer and more people think they are fun to watch( or at least pretend they are because they don't want to be different)
The thing you have to remember: The whole country isn't saying this. The government is. By your logic: Government of the U.S. says we need to regulate games. Obviously, there's a problem. Government of Australia has denied an equivalent to an M-rating for years. Obviously, there's a problem with M-ratings. The Government of China denies the people's right to have more than one child. Obviously there's a problem with multi-child families.
I agree with you, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the college students start protests over this. South Korea has a long history of public demonstrations.Archangel357 said:
I would offer a counter-experience: My own brother. We were a military family when he was born, and so we moved around a lot. By the time I was born most of that was over, but it had left marks on him. He'd gotten so used to making and losing friends over a matter of months that he just sort of shut people out. He tried to open back up when we finally settled down, but everyone pretty much rejected him around here. He even tried sports specifically, since he was pretty decent at most of them, but that really only brought his social status to "barely tolerated", and he knew it. He came to hate people in general. He turned to playing games with me and my dad because it's the only place he felt like he fit.SteelStallion said:
Over the years, he connected to other people who played games in the area. He made friends through it, and started to overcome his hatred of people. He's far from perfect these days, but video games gave him friends. They gave him a wife, who never would have met him if they hadn't met over an online game. Honestly, I think they are partially responsible for giving him his life. If he hadn't had something to turn to, I'm not sure what he would have done. I was too young to help him, and my dad had his own baggage that has a tendency from putting forth as much effort as he wants to to help people. So don't tell me video games are harmful. They gave me my brother back, even though he was for years what the South Korean government would describe as an obsessive gamer.
I for one am not partial to the state interfering in how parents raise their kids, so long as no abuse is going on. And surely you would not equate letting your 14 year old son play World of Warcraft until 00.45 AM on Fridays with giving a 10 year old vodka?Archangel357 said:
And even if I actually supported such legislation telling people kids to not game after midnight (whereas watching movies are all right???), the utter inability to actually enforce it would prevent me from naming it a "great idea"; more something for youths to spit in the face by late night gaming sessions in the months after it's passed, then forget about completely as they get used to creating MMO accounts making them out to be 33 (with all the adult advertising etc. that entail).
Blind Big Brother legislation is a failure on every front as far as I'm concerned.
This hardly precludes others from viewing and criticising it based in their own set of values. I was never a fan of ethical relativism, and consequently value the individual liberty of each human even when they - or some of them, for there will always be exceptions - do not do so themselves. A small minority is bound to value their individual liberties, and my thoughts are with them, just as they would be with minorities such as the gay community (t)here, who are also the only ones to truly value the ability to sleep with the same sex unpunished.Archangel357 said:
Majority dictatorship does not become any more justifiable just because the majority is larger and have a long history of being the majority.
Which sounds exceedingly horrible and authoritarian to me; and probably to a fair few of the younger Koreans whom it affects as well.
No values are not universal, nor do they stay the same for each generation. It is quite clear that if the youth of Korea prefer to sometimes relax with an MMO, then their view on education - and possibly authority - is obviously not as rigid as that of their elders; Yet it is they who are oppressed by it and forced into it.
Thus we shift from the notion of an entirely united population all voluntarily rallying around its old culture, to one demographic forcing it down the throat of another with different priorities; In a way they should certainly have no right to in my book, at least not outside the immediate parent/child relationship.
Not now, but something's going to replace the video games, and I'm guessing it's not going to be sleep or studying (unless the parents step in and say so, but if they had that kind of priority, authority, and spine, then a law would never have been drafted up in the first place).
I think LeenockfOu is old enough for this to not apply! the kid needs all the practice to get back into code A >.<
poor kid getting booted from televised GSL
poor kid getting booted from televised GSL
Living here in Korea now and it's my observation that the parents have absolutely no clue what their kids do. The workloads that the parents force on their children is just ridiculous. Korean kids usually go to 5 to 7 hagwons (study schools) after their normal school ends.
Usually they ditch and either wander around the shopping areas of Seoul or are in PC cafes. Also, these study schools lie to the parents about how the kids are doing to please the parents' egos. (I used to teach at one of these study schools, and I was told to make glowing reports for the kids even if they were absolutely awful.)
I doubt that this ban will have any practical effect. Most kids I talked to were not addicted (3 day gaming sessions), they were stressed and wanted to have some fun. The addicted gamers will find a way to play.
And for those wondering about online registration in Korea, you need to input a citizen ID number (think social security number), which can only be used once per game. You cannot have 2 accounts with the same ID number. Oh, and Korea uses A LOT OF ACTIVEX. I HATE activex.
Usually they ditch and either wander around the shopping areas of Seoul or are in PC cafes. Also, these study schools lie to the parents about how the kids are doing to please the parents' egos. (I used to teach at one of these study schools, and I was told to make glowing reports for the kids even if they were absolutely awful.)
I doubt that this ban will have any practical effect. Most kids I talked to were not addicted (3 day gaming sessions), they were stressed and wanted to have some fun. The addicted gamers will find a way to play.
And for those wondering about online registration in Korea, you need to input a citizen ID number (think social security number), which can only be used once per game. You cannot have 2 accounts with the same ID number. Oh, and Korea uses A LOT OF ACTIVEX. I HATE activex.
