Kotick Wishes Xbox Live Was More Open

Miumaru

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Mechsoap said:
Miumaru said:
Mechsoap said:
so he wants to take of fees on xbox....or he wants to stop fees at cod? im confused...
He wants people to pay specifically for CoD and thus directly to Activision (and any other games he could milk) instead of just a general fee to Microsoft.
here i was hoping xbox where history....*whimper*
Xbox the system?
 

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Kalezian said:
Next CoD for the PC make it subscription based.

problem solved.


and before anyone whines about it, you would be getting your dedicated servers, along with paying to play on them.
Black Ops is already on Dedicated Servers and it has no subscription fee ( as yet ), and no, I'm never paying a subscription fee for anything other then an MMO.
 

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Boy that turned fiendish in a hurry!

"Well the thing is that Microsoft sort of controls Live very tightly, so it doesn't allow for the rich, diverse stream of content that we would really like to money our money. Money. Money money money."
 

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Kalezian said:
Next CoD for the PC make it subscription based.
problem solved.
and before anyone whines about it, you would be getting your dedicated servers, along with paying to play on them.
Oh, so what about BF:BC2, MoH 2010, CSS, TF2, etc? They're totally subscription based, right?
 

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Kotick almost seems like a comic book villain at times.
I'm guessing he is in certain webcomics.

If Activision want to continue complaining about console manufacturers not bowing to their every whim, why don't they just make their own freaking console.
 

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Imma translate for you:

"We really wished we could improve our player's experiences by adding massive subscription fee's, however XBOX Live makes that harder to accomplish because players already have to pay for it, and while they really want to pay our subscriptions, they don't want to do it if they already pay for XBOX Live too.
We also think Microsoft should pay us large amounts of cash so we can deliver DLC 1 month sooner on XBOX Live, and we think people should be able to play Call of Duty without a gold membership, so they have more money to spend on our subscription and massively overpriced map packs, because that's what they want.
Players with gold membership would obviously get rewarded with a special perk and a special map for hardcore boosters, and we should get compensated by Microsoft for giving such massive incentives for people to subscribe to Gold.

xoxo -Kotick-chan"
 

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Even if Activision had 10 titles that make as much money as WoW every month, Kotick would still try to find ways to strangle his customers and turn developers into zombie slave workers. Nothing new here. I didn't buy MW2, will not buy SC2 until Blizzard presents a Bnet 2.0 that is not 10 steps backwards, and just laugh at the subscription plans for CoD. I hope Activision crashes and burns even if it would mean the death of some of my favorite franchises. We need to be free of this cancer.
 

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While I dislike Kotick just like the other guy, remember people that they aren't there for public service. They are there to make money just like any other company in the world.
 

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Mornelithe said:
Kalezian said:
Next CoD for the PC make it subscription based.

problem solved.


and before anyone whines about it, you would be getting your dedicated servers, along with paying to play on them.
I doubt highly very many PC gamers would buy into such a thing. There are far better FPS' out there than MW2 for PC, for one thing, and they all have dedicated server already. They can't really sell us something that's pretty much already the standard. What's new, is the removal of such utilities. If they think that simply adding them back, it's somehow going to make the CoD suddenly worthy of a subscription, well, they're wrong. And I really don't know anyone who'd be interested in such a thing.
What we have hea is a failure to comoomicate. The problem is that console-tards(note, not all console players are tards, I used to, and intend again to, own a 360, but there is a subset of console owners who are tards) don't understand the concept of dedicated servers.

You see, most of them aren't run by the game company. They're run by the players, groups of them, at their own expense. Or by the server hosting companies, as advertising for their services. Dedicated servers DO NOT COST THE DEVELOPER ANYTHING MORE THAN THE ALTERNATIVES. FPS games are not MMOs, they do not have huge persistent worlds which need to be managed and updated 24 hours a day by the developer.

Of course, because the guy you quoted is a console-tard, he'll either not bother to reply once proven wrong(as this is almost as big an affront to their ego as being defeated ingame by a "noob"), or go off into some kind of apoplectic rage and ignore everything with which he disagrees.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
What's next?

Are porn sites going to want more control from internet service providers because 60% of internet traffic is used for porn?

That statistic is made up, but you get the idea.
Obviously. It's much higher.
I can sort of see why Kotick is unhappy, it seems unfair for all the revenue to go to Microsoft when it's Kotick's games they're playing. But I think he overestimates how many people would be willing to pay for yet another subscription. At least I hope he does. I do not want to see this happen. Does he plan to kill PC multiplayer too?
 

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Kalezian said:
Next CoD for the PC make it subscription based.

problem solved.


and before anyone whines about it, you would be getting your dedicated servers, along with paying to play on them.
Evidently you're not a PC gamer.

Shycte said:
While I dislike Kotick just like the other guy, remember people that they aren't there for public service. They are there to make money just like any other company in the world.
1) Yes, of course they are.

2) Look at Valve - totally different business model (i.e. treat your customers with care) and they're rolling in it.
 

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This is one of those cases where its equal parts hilarious and horrifying. Hilarious because he's such a moron, and horrifying because we also know he's a ruthless prick who means every word he says.

Just one thing though. You'd think with all this money he makes, he'd hire a decent PR firm so he'd stop stepping on his tongue. Assuming he doesn't blow it all on caviar and hookers, of course.

And assuming he even gives a shit what people even think about his gaffes.

Which is unlikely.
 
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HK_01 said:
Sure, 60% subscribe just for COD ,sure...

Kotick has expressed his desire for a Call of Duty subscription service before, and told the Wall Street Journal last month that he believes that such a service would provide a much more "compelling experience" to Call of Duty fans.
Does this make any sense to any one of you? How does paying more provide a more "compelling experience"?


Edit: I thought Activision wanted to improve its image? They should tell Kotick that he's not helping.
i garuntee that that statistic is made up if the account has played it, in which there are easiy 100,000's of accounts that have at least borrowed the game or rented it or immediately sold it like me. there is no way 60% of all of xbox live pays for just that game.


OT: this is...wow...could you be any more greedy and self absorbed while doing it?
 

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"We've heard that 60 per cent of [Microsoft's] subscribers are principally on Live because of Call of Duty," said Kotick.

This is the worst statement of all, it is completely unsubstantiated and he gave a very round nuber with no indication it was a ball park figure (like saying "around about 60%" "over 60%" or "almost 60%") which makes this whole think reek of bullshit.

Then there is the qualifier "Principally" as what the fuck does that mean? What could it mean and what does Kotick think it means or thinks he can imply it can mean?

I mean does it mean they ONLY use their gold Memberhship for COD or merely it takes up the LARGEST PROPORTION of their online time, So they may only spend 41% of their time on MW2 but the other 59% is divided amongst many other games.

Also this statistic is likely 100% bullshit as only 11 million copies of Modern Warfare 2 have been sold for Xbox 360, a platform which over 40 million exist in the wild... so only about 25% could POSSIBLY get Gold JUST for COD:MW2.

though this COULD be skewed by the number of Xbox 360's "sold" being influenced by extremely high failure rate of those out of warranty and people buying the same console again. it could also be skewed by huge resale of MW2 but that is a zero-sum game, for every copy bought pre-owned someone has to sell their copy. Even then it can't come close to that 60% figure Kotick "heard" yet no other statistic seems to exists. I mean was it a poll? Was it calculated via IW-Net? What?

Kotick is not just greedy, he is a bad businessman... he should be driving a cab for a living, not running a company.
 

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I want Xbox live to not cost an arm and a leg, but there you go.

God, that man is a colossal dickweed.
*sniffs*
"Mommy, mommy! They won't let me give value to my customers by locking me out of their own godamn network "

Not an actualy quote... but my God it should be. I bet he was that manipulative little shit in school that would have a shit attack if you didn't give him a spare pencil.
 

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Microsoft deserves the money for being smart enough to do it with a console, something of inherently more worth than a damn game.