Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine

[Black Watch]

I want to stand in the middle of it when it goes off. Just to see what happens.

 

[samsonguy920]

This makes me begin to believe that the scientists are getting nothing out of this, and so are coming up with far-fetched crap to help justify the cost of building that waste of space.

Then again, scientists these days with multiple PhD's seem to be more full of crap than actual brains anyway.

 

[FallenRainbows]

This is old, I knew about this and the Higgs Boson around the time they switched it on...

It's also sound theoretically, Time essentially being a fourth dimension affected by such things as weight.

Oh and yeah...

Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.

...time is affected by love too.

Wait....

Does this mean it failed?
Because this thing is going to be turned on in the future, ergo we're currently in it's past and we haven't had any messages yet.

If we ever invent time travel, we'd know before we'd invent it. Cause we'd go back in time.
All in all, the big question remains, where the hell did the Song of Storms came from?!

That would mean the computer and email dont exist because you cant send an email to someone in the past who doesnt own a computer.

Actually part of a particular theory is that it works like a telephone, i.e it requires a receiver and a sender, we have yet to build the receiver, thus we can not yet travel back, furthermore this prevents travelling to any time before the construction of the time machine (in this case the LHC)

 

[Asehujiko]

I believe that if it worked, it would already have happened.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

When they get this working, let me know. I got a message I want to send to the Wright Brothers.

They are wrong in saying that it does not have any paradoxes. If we send a message to the past, that says, "kill baby Hitler" then our time line would be forever different.

A simple message? Like next weeks Euromillions numbers...come on future me, get present me that message!

Time travel huh? If I could get my hands on a that LHC I would send a message to myselft to that the winning lottery number is.

Do you think sending a message will work? I mean c'mon. We would lock someone up if they said 'Hey i just got this message from the future it says mix X up to make gunpowder, tells me how to build a musket???? and to kill Hitler before he rises to power."

not necessarily. perhaps it is just decided that no messages shall be sent backwards in time for fear of disrupting the chain of events that leads to how things are currently.

Okay, if time travel were possible then people would already be receiving winning lottery numbers.

If this were possible, then someone would have found a message of sorts describing and confirming this.

This is going to screw up alot of lottery rules and regulations.

We could send a message to have Hitler killed of course t would eventually lead to this:

May I remind each of you that in order to send/receive these messages, you'd need a machine capable of working with higgs singlets? As of now, our 30km large, ?3bln doom machine that's liable to break down for a year when a pigeon shits on a magnet is still incapable of detecting them, let alone doing something useful with them.

To use an analogy, hitting a mountain full of iron ore with a pickaxe =/= advanced metallurgy.

 

[Kaytastrophe]

I believe that if it worked, it would already have happened.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

When they get this working, let me know. I got a message I want to send to the Wright Brothers.

They are wrong in saying that it does not have any paradoxes. If we send a message to the past, that says, "kill baby Hitler" then our time line would be forever different.

A simple message? Like next weeks Euromillions numbers...come on future me, get present me that message!

Time travel huh? If I could get my hands on a that LHC I would send a message to myselft to that the winning lottery number is.

Do you think sending a message will work? I mean c'mon. We would lock someone up if they said 'Hey i just got this message from the future it says mix X up to make gunpowder, tells me how to build a musket???? and to kill Hitler before he rises to power."

not necessarily. perhaps it is just decided that no messages shall be sent backwards in time for fear of disrupting the chain of events that leads to how things are currently.

Okay, if time travel were possible then people would already be receiving winning lottery numbers.

If this were possible, then someone would have found a message of sorts describing and confirming this.

This is going to screw up alot of lottery rules and regulations.

We could send a message to have Hitler killed of course t would eventually lead to this:

May I remind each of you that in order to send/receive these messages, you'd need a machine capable of working with higgs singlets? As of now, our 30km large, ?3bln doom machine that's liable to break down for a year when a pigeon shits on a magnet is still incapable of detecting them, let alone doing something useful with them.

To use an analogy, hitting a mountain full of iron ore with a pickaxe =/= advanced metallurgy.

Honestly, I know that my scenario is impossible I was just being a smart ass

 

[Something Amyss]

Part of me doesn't like the sound of this. Personally I'd rather leave time travel to The Doctor.

After Waters of Mars, I'm not sure I trust him to control time and space. Perhaps an independent coalition.

Though not the LHC guys, since birds keep stopping their device from working. At least the Doctor's screwdriver is only vulnerable to certain hairdryers.

A little more on topic than that monologue, this strikes me as cool, BUT with the advisory that the guys at CERN have made bigger and wilder promises than Peter Molyneux. And he just makes video games.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

The question is, if we get messages from the future, once we manage to make a device that can receive and decode the messages...Do we trust them?

I mean, it could be a message from a concerned scientist hoping to fix a past mistake, or do that infinite technological development loop theory to advance science. Or it could be a corrupt company/CIA that wants to shape the world in their image so they can rule everything and screw us all over.

Personally, I think time travel SHOULD NOT happen. Why? Because it will be abused faster than you can even consider saying "bob's your uncle, and also a monkey". Even simple messages could manipulate and screw over everyone.

Then again, it would be nice to get advance warning about stuff like upcoming natural disasters. It would have been nice if Japan would have known to turn those reactors off prior to the earthquake, and I'm sure those poor souls on the coast would have appreciated knowing that their homes were about to get swept away like sandcastles.

Consider me neutral-slightly-against time travel mailboxes.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.

...time is affected by love too.

Oh that is so damn true. The question is WHY on earth is it that boring and stupid stuff feels like it lasts longer, but enjoyable things make time go by like sonic on speed?

It's insane.

As I once said "Time flies when you're having fun. Therefore, Love and fun are bad for your life expectancy...but good for everything else!"

 

[Nikolaz72]

Leave the messagemachine in the hands of the youtube comment.

 

[Anchupom]

World's FIRST, or world's WORST?
AMIRITE?
No? Ok.

And I think at some point, this picture should be mentioned:

That is the first thing I will do if time travel is possible. Teach a T-Damn-Rex how to fly an F 15.
Then kill Will Ferrel. But enough of that.

 

[FallenRainbows]

Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. How on earth can you explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love? Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.

...time is affected by love too.

Oh that is so damn true. The question is WHY on earth is it that boring and stupid stuff feels like it lasts longer, but enjoyable things make time go by like sonic on speed?

It's insane.

As I once said "Time flies when you're having fun. Therefore, Love and fun are bad for your life expectancy...but good for everything else!"

It is as it is, I do not know why, but I do know that love is stronger than the evil, how?

Well; the bad lasts a mere moment if your love is there beside you.

 

[Anchupom]

Well, if we did get a time machine working in the future:
*We would've encountered someone from that period already
*The machine creates another dimension seperate of ours, thus we would never know.
*When they do discover it, the planet is so balanced and in order that nobody would want to come back here.
*The world ends before we can make one (I'm not saying 2012 is right, the world could end at any time, 2 seconds or 2 millinea. We'll never know...)

OR time travel can only be achieved back to when the first time machine is invented. Like a rail system. Can't travel to a station that hasn't been built yet.
Except it would be destinations chronologically instead of geographically.

 

[MaVeN1337]

How about we just NOT fuck with time and space?

Maybe we can send someone back to make sure Christianity never happens, that would be the best thing we could do.

 

[Lord Kloo]

Surely if this is successful then the human race will either self-promote itself to the status of God-like beings or it will destroy itself in a paradox.. still either will be fun..

But seriously, this is massive in terms of advances being able to have scientific (theoretical) access to the entirety of the universe.. certainly should bring man closer to discovering the true origins..

 

[AndyFromMonday]

It's a false theory. If it was true wouldn't we already have gotten those messages?

 

[Antari]

This is a nice theory and all .. how they ever plan to detect these particles is quite another story.

 

[thahat]

I believe that if it worked, it would already have happened. Either that or tear the universe.

Science: Continually striving to DOOM US ALL.

do not, only if the experiment works, and they start decrypting the time travel particles would it happen

 

[serata]

This article doesn't mention that the only way to send a message back in time would be to "attach" a "message" to a singlet. So even if we did, we'd only be able to send it to someone who had already developed the ability to send it. It would be pretty neat if we discovered the singlet with a message on it that said, "congratulations, time travel is possible!" or perhaps "It's a trap! Don't look for the singlet!"

 

[fulano]

We would most likely start receiving messages from the "future" the moment someone got that hing working.

Creepy...

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

How about we just NOT fuck with time and space?

Maybe we can send someone back to make sure Christianity never happens, that would be the best thing we could do.

....Except Christianity (and religion in general) is NOT the problem. The PROBLEM is the stupid lunatic extremist *insert insulting term for humans here* that take it too damn seriously and screw everything up. (Personally, I used to be Catholic, now I'm pretty much Agnostic)

Christianity would be awesome if everyone who followed it understood that it was basically all about "be nice, respectful, etc to everyone", and stopped being like "BUT IN THE BOOK WRITTEN BY OLDSCHOOL SCHOLARS OF THE TIME, GAY = EVUL!!!". What matters is the MESSAGE behind the religion (For Christianity, it's supposed to be respect and acceptance of others despite their faults, believe it or not), not the damn details written down by biased humans trying to make sure their society's values were immortalized to pester future, more progressive generations.

Also, why are you picking on Christianity, out of all religions? three are other that are FAR more likely to create dangerous extremist followers.

It is as it is, I do not know why, but I do know that love is stronger than the evil, how?

Well; the bad lasts a mere moment if your love is there beside you.

Can't argue with that. The girl I'm with (My first ever), was the final piece that allowed me to fully recover and grow my self-esteem. Took me five years and finding a totally awesome girlfriend, but I feel like I've FINALLY recovered the self-worth that my high school stole from me.