Largest plot hole in a game?

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
I was wondering yesterday which game I have has had the biggest plot hole, and I realised that it was probably in Super Mario Sunshine.
Princess Peach was Baby Bowser's mother? What was up with that?
So come on people, what do you think was the biggest plot hole you've ever seen in a game?
whoa whoa whoa, dude, spoiler alert!

I didn't know that... not that I much care, I only like mario when it's lacking a particular dimension.....

still, wtf?

OT:
In Uncharted: Drake's Fortune when the chic (I'm drawing a blank on her name, sorry guys... fill me in if you remember!) mysteriously crawls up next to drake after Drake left her to climb through a falling down building. She doesn't have the same acrobatic skills yet somehow got there before him. How? Nobody knows!
I think the game is now so old and well known that the only person to be aggravated by my spoiler would be someone who's time-traveled from 2002, before the game had come out.
 

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How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.
Firstly, the premise of Rapture was that it was to be a sanctuary for the best and most brilliant of the industrial, medical, botanical and philosophical world. Now usually, those guys have tons and tons of money, and are usually pissed off by regulations. That means you have people who want to build and expand on it, with the money and skills to do so.

Secondly, I'm sure if you were offered a job working as a builder for a ton of money, or you were offered a MASSIVE order of metal with NO QUESTIONS ASKED written in gold on every leaf on a money tree. So there, you've got the resources.

That is a valid question how did they build it during the war when damn U-boats were sinking anything out of America...
 

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Sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
same way they go in on the move "red dawn" (the Greatest Movie ever made) by using Commercial Airliners to drop in the Paratroopers. (just a guess.)
 

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REGARDING ALL THE POSTS ABOUT RAPTURE:

Rapture is located at 63° 2' N, 29° 55' W, which places it at about two hundred sixty-nine miles west of Iceland's capital, Reykjavik. According to the National Geophysical Data Center, the depth at this point would be around 1500m, that's almost a mile. Rapture's size is rumored to be around the size of Manhattan, New York, New York. Rapture began build in 1946 and finished only in 5 years in 1951. Given all this information, and seen Rapture in-game, I, myself being a civil engineering student for 3 years, can say that it is a fantastic world albeit very unrealistic. Obviously realism isn't something to pick on when talking about a game like this, however to answer the question: "How was rapture built?", we'll have to. First of all, visible sunlight disappears only 200m under, so the light seen outside the windows, can only be light installations. The whole city is built in Art Deco style, however, the forms of the buildings are completely inappropriate for holding off the huge amount of pressure from the ocean mass. Since the buildings are dry, and therefore can be seen as hollow shells, they would just collapse under the pressure. And in 1946, there were no means of building underwater whatsoever, and even today, it's practically impossible. For comparison, Hydropolis in Dubai is only 20m underwater, and the costs for building are 700 million dollars. Which brings us to the next point: money. No man, or country has enough money to build Rapture, the technologies don't exist even today. The expenses for materials, and transport are immense, and the means of transporting material to the building site on the sea bed are even more so. Also you can't build on the surface of the ocean to sink it afterward, as it will sink immediately on it's own, and I doubt a stable country could build Rapture using it's whole budget, even if there were materials that could withstand this kind of pressure. So to sum it up, Rapture is a beautiful and creative work of art, but there is no way it could exist in reality. Rapture... can't be built.
 

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topsyturvy said:
On the MW2 level No Russian, how did everyone on the last floor before you exit onto the airstrip die before you get there? I'm pretty sure they started to arm themselves on an elevator and didn't exit near the airstrip.
Guys on last floor dies because your friend goes there and starts shooting there from far away, if I got your guestion right.
 

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Octorok said:
sasquatch99 said:
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sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly

And that is how babies are made they did that
Ah. That would explain it.
Cheers.
Not really. You'd think at least one other country in Europe would notice a bloody invasion force crossing over their territory.

The Russians are clearly coming in from the Atlantic anyway, and just because one ACS module got nicked doesn't mean that the US and every other world power lost all things like radar, or in the case of Non-USA countries, their fucking satellite capabilities.

Plus, this is bloody America people. They don't have one defence system, nor do they tend to keep it going and trust that it still works after it has been captured. The USA would have contingency plans for something like that going missing, and they would have never trusted data that had been captured by a hostile country.

Just accept it as a plot hole. Like how a nuke can cause a shockwave in space, or how a nuke can be launched from a submarine into space, or still work in space.

Or how the hell Price ended up in that Gulag and never took the opportunity to escape before.
That wasn't a nuke it was an emp, it disabled teh astronaut's life support.
 

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Something from the original Modern Warfare, why is
Price invincible in the entire game, never falling unconscious or doing anything more than flinching from being shot, blown up or twatted upside the head, but when a piffling little Hind tries to kill him he passes out like a wuss?

Also, why does Soap have such a stupid name? What kind of sadistic parents would name their child after a cleaning product?
 

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Sombra Negra said:
Something from the original Modern Warfare, why is
Price invincible in the entire game, never falling unconscious or doing anything more than flinching from being shot, blown up or twatted upside the head, but when a piffling little Hind tries to kill him he passes out like a wuss?

Also, why does Soap have such a stupid name? What kind of sadistic parents would name their child after a cleaning product?
Well, first of all Soap is a nickname (It's still pretty stupid though. How do you get a nickname like that?).
As for the Russians attacking the US for one terrorist attack, the game said Russia was under Ultranationalist control and surely they would only need a tiny excuse to declare war on anyone.
 

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why in ME didnt the asari on the concil share your memories of the vision like liara did?
 

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Tankenstein said:
That wasn't a nuke it was an emp, it disabled teh astronaut's life support.
I never said that the EMP didn't kill the astronaut, however, it was a nuke. Price launched it and the explosion generated an EMP. In space.

"Price however, temporarily goes rogue, and leads Task Force 141 to raid a Russian port and gain control of a nuclear submarine. Price uses the submarine to launch a SLBM toward Washington D.C.. However, he sets the warhead to detonate in the upper atmosphere, which destroys the International Space Station, but spares the capital city from utter destruction. The resulting electromagnetic pulse cripples the vehicles and electronic equipment of both the U.S. and Russian forces in the city."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MW2

Middle of the fourth paragraph on plot.

I don't deny that a burst of electromagnetic radiation would significantly harm such things as satellites, but you cannot blow up a nuke in space and send out a "shockwave". Space doesn't work that way.
 

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Durxom said:
zenfox3 said:
how about in ocarina of time with the song of storms.
if you learned it from guru-guru in the future, and he learned it from you in the past, where did it come from?
cant say tarmana because its an alternate world.
Colonel: Link, you've created a time paradox!!![/quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
Lolz

Also what happened to Gordon Freman's HEV helmet?
I'm sure this has been answered legitimately before so please enlighten me.
p.s. sorry if I messed up that quote I'm new
 

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Axeli said:
"Shinra is trying to blast the Meteor into bits! We must stop them quick!"

What?
I thought it was just me o_O

Also, if I didn't love it so much, I would probably rant on about FFVIII ^^
 

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Littaly said:
Axeli said:
"Shinra is trying to blast the Meteor into bits! We must stop them quick!"

What?
I thought it was just me o_O

Also, if I didn't love it so much, I would probably rant on about FFVIII ^^
The most hilarious thing about FFVIII is that the game acknowledges that its plot stops making sense near the end. If I recall, it was Laguna who lampshades it, by say something like: "Yeah, yeah, who cares about that? Let's just end this" when Doctor What's-his-name is about to explain everything.
 

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Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
I was wondering yesterday which game I have has had the biggest plot hole, and I realised that it was probably in Super Mario Sunshine.
Princess Peach was Baby Bowser's mother? What was up with that?
So come on people, what do you think was the biggest plot hole you've ever seen in a game?
Ok, you see, Bowser told Baby Bowser Peach was his mother so Baby Bowser would kidnap her. Peach isn't his mother
 

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Rapture. I don't see how it's possible to build a city underwater.
On the subject of MW2, I direct you here.
 
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Tankenstein said:
Octorok said:
sasquatch99 said:
IdealistCommi said:
sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly

And that is how babies are made they did that
Ah. That would explain it.
Cheers.
Not really. You'd think at least one other country in Europe would notice a bloody invasion force crossing over their territory.

The Russians are clearly coming in from the Atlantic anyway, and just because one ACS module got nicked doesn't mean that the US and every other world power lost all things like radar, or in the case of Non-USA countries, their fucking satellite capabilities.

Plus, this is bloody America people. They don't have one defence system, nor do they tend to keep it going and trust that it still works after it has been captured. The USA would have contingency plans for something like that going missing, and they would have never trusted data that had been captured by a hostile country.

Just accept it as a plot hole. Like how a nuke can cause a shockwave in space, or how a nuke can be launched from a submarine into space, or still work in space.

Or how the hell Price ended up in that Gulag and never took the opportunity to escape before.
That wasn't a nuke it was an emp, it disabled teh astronaut's life support.
Well, EMPS are a side effect of a nuke going off, technically.