Largest plot hole in a game?

[jake09050]

Where were the Spitters, Jockeys and Chargers in L4D?

The Southern United States. Duh. lol

 

[SteakHeart]

Something from the original Modern Warfare, why is

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Price invincible in the entire game, never falling unconscious or doing anything more than flinching from being shot, blown up or twatted upside the head, but when a piffling little Hind tries to kill him he passes out like a wuss?

Also, why does Soap have such a stupid name? What kind of sadistic parents would name their child after a cleaning product?

Well, first of all Soap is a nickname (It's still pretty stupid though. How do you get a nickname like that?).

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As for the Russians attacking the US for one terrorist attack, the game said Russia was under Ultranationalist control and surely they would only need a tiny excuse to declare war on anyone.

Soap got his nickname because he smelled like soap when he first arrived at training.

And as for your other question,

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They don't need an excuse; they're the largest country in the world.

And don't call me Shirley.

 

[Nomanslander]

In the first Bioshock, Jack's story was one giant plot hole for me.

The idea of a sleeper agent is to implant one deep into an organization to where once triggered he can do his job of killing his target.

Not send him to the outside world so later he can come back by hijacking a plane, crash it into the ocean, reenter the city, take on an army of Ryan's men, and if he survives all that then get to Ryan so he can kill him.

And if Fontaine had programed Jack to do all this why didn't he program him with a fail safe device which would kill him once the job was done? Simply say "thanks for killing Ryan for me, now would you kindly kill yourself."

But instead he expects a couple of security bots to do the job after Jack took on (and allow me to reiterate this) an army of Ryan's men, big daddies, and security bots.

The problem with super soldier project's is that any death machine with free will will noticed there's something iffy about.....wait Yahtzee has done this already...0o

 

[Bloody Crimson]

Not really a plot hole, but in most games i wonder how things got there with so little resources, like in Fallout 3, how the hell did they get all those pipes into project purity? Or how long did it take to build black mesa in the first place?

Or like how the hell did you manage to build rapture under the fuckin ocean?!

Hm....Why do people in Pokemon only let their Pokemon do the talking? Seriously...you outnumber me and I'm in your base, how can you not stop me?

 

[anthony87]

Nero.

'Nuff said.

 

[master m99]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Firstly, the premise of Rapture was that it was to be a sanctuary for the best and most brilliant of the industrial, medical, botanical and philosophical world. Now usually, those guys have tons and tons of money, and are usually pissed off by regulations. That means you have people who want to build and expand on it, with the money and skills to do so.

Secondly, I'm sure if you were offered a job working as a builder for a ton of money, or you were offered a MASSIVE order of metal with NO QUESTIONS ASKED written in gold on every leaf on a money tree. So there, you've got the resources.

Even with the best and brightest in the world AND supposedly unlimited resources, the whole damn thing is still ridiculously unfeasible. Building a small pressurized hut at the bottom of the sea would be hard, especially at that time. Building skyscrapers with windows that could withstand the pressure, hell, buildings ALONE would be ridiculous. I guess they solved the oxygen thing and water and food could be imported, but creating the buildings themselves is just impossible. If its almost impossible by today's standards, it sure isn't any easier then.

hold on so building a city underwater is stupid but sea slug made chemicals that let you shoot pritty much everything on earth out of your arm are a-ok? ya sorry just seems thats a bit more unbelivable granted that less a plot point then a biological head ack but still. (grammer nazies heads just blew up reading this)

 

[Kuchinawa212]

So...umm...why was Lucien in Fable 2 such a bad guy again? He didn't seem to do anything EVIL other then killing your sister and trying to kill the player.

 

[Alex909]

Uncharted 2: Nate mentions there is no way that he and Harry should break into the museum, 2 people were killed last time someone tried to break in, one barely got away. This means the museum guards must be some pretty tough guys. So why Nate is strongly against bringing guns there is beyond me.

MW2: Why do Soap and Roach start on the edge of a cliff in Cliffhanger. Also the attack on America was a surprise right? Especially Washington. So how were they able to dig trenches so quick and under fire no less.

 

[slowpoke999]

*snip*

He did implement him with a fail safe device(or what he thought was one)in the form of a sorta heart virus and did ask him to off himself. But his brain got fixed by the doctor so he couldn't be controlled anymore and he got cured of the heart virus before it killed him(in game it made his max health almost half, so if he took twice as long to find it he would've died).

Fontaine must've also known Jack was invincible or something, because when he fails to kill Jack he gets all jacked up on plasmids because he was probably shitting himself in fear.

 

[The Heik]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Firstly, the premise of Rapture was that it was to be a sanctuary for the best and most brilliant of the industrial, medical, botanical and philosophical world. Now usually, those guys have tons and tons of money, and are usually pissed off by regulations. That means you have people who want to build and expand on it, with the money and skills to do so.

Secondly, I'm sure if you were offered a job working as a builder for a ton of money, or you were offered a MASSIVE order of metal with NO QUESTIONS ASKED written in gold on every leaf on a money tree. So there, you've got the resources.

Even with the best and brightest in the world AND supposedly unlimited resources, the whole damn thing is still ridiculously unfeasible. Building a small pressurized hut at the bottom of the sea would be hard, especially at that time. Building skyscrapers with windows that could withstand the pressure, hell, buildings ALONE would be ridiculous. I guess they solved the oxygen thing and water and food could be imported, but creating the buildings themselves is just impossible. If its almost impossible by today's standards, it sure isn't any easier then.

hold on so building a city underwater is stupid but sea slug made chemicals that let you shoot pritty much everything on earth out of your arm are a-ok? ya sorry just seems thats a bit more unbelivable granted that less a plot point then a biological head ack but still. (grammer nazies heads just blew up reading this)

Jeez this thread is still running? I'm pretty sure I made this post 2 months ago.... yep exactly on December 14th. Nice timing there!

OT: With regards to plasmids there is such thing as artistic license. While yes the plasmids are a bit weirder, they at least have some sort of explanation, while the whole city of Rapture evidently came out of literally nowhere, with no explanations to where Andrew Ryan found all the cash, the materials, or the manpower to build it without ANYONE noticing. So yeah, Rapture's the bigger plot-hole.

 

[Axeli]

Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.

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The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly

And that is how babies are made they did that

Ah. That would explain it.
Cheers.

Not really. You'd think at least one other country in Europe would notice a bloody invasion force crossing over their territory.

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The Russians are clearly coming in from the Atlantic anyway, and just because one ACS module got nicked doesn't mean that the US and every other world power lost all things like radar, or in the case of Non-USA countries, their fucking satellite capabilities.

Plus, this is bloody America people. They don't have one defence system, nor do they tend to keep it going and trust that it still works after it has been captured. The USA would have contingency plans for something like that going missing, and they would have never trusted data that had been captured by a hostile country.

Just accept it as a plot hole. Like how a nuke can cause a shockwave in space, or how a nuke can be launched from a submarine into space, or still work in space.

Or how the hell Price ended up in that Gulag and never took the opportunity to escape before.

That wasn't a nuke it was an emp, it disabled teh astronaut's life support.

Well, EMPS are a side effect of a nuke going off, technically.

Nukes are powerful, but really, the space is bigger. I've seen only little of the game, but I did see that cutscene and wondered how the hell the shockwave or EMP could take out a space station that far away. And even if they were that powerful, it should have put the entire continent back to the Stone Age.

Uncharted 2: Nate mentions there is no way that he and Harry should break into the museum, 2 people were killed last time someone tried to break in, one barely got away. This means the museum guards must be some pretty tough guys. So why Nate is strongly against bringing guns there is beyond me.

Because breaking into museum and shooting a guard is murder? The guards weren't exactly bad guys there.

 

[The Heik]

Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.

With this I'm pretty sure it's because the Russians copied the ACS module from the frozen airbase (Soap said this, so I'm pretty sure it's the case) so they could bypass the satellite IFF system.

What's more of a plot hole is how the eastern side of that attack could go over Europe and not a single radar system or person saw it, not to mention the refueling and logistics that the Americans somehow missed with their surveillance system

 

[Chrono180]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Firstly, the premise of Rapture was that it was to be a sanctuary for the best and most brilliant of the industrial, medical, botanical and philosophical world. Now usually, those guys have tons and tons of money, and are usually pissed off by regulations. That means you have people who want to build and expand on it, with the money and skills to do so.

Secondly, I'm sure if you were offered a job working as a builder for a ton of money, or you were offered a MASSIVE order of metal with NO QUESTIONS ASKED written in gold on every leaf on a money tree. So there, you've got the resources.

Even with the best and brightest in the world AND supposedly unlimited resources, the whole damn thing is still ridiculously unfeasible. Building a small pressurized hut at the bottom of the sea would be hard, especially at that time. Building skyscrapers with windows that could withstand the pressure, hell, buildings ALONE would be ridiculous. I guess they solved the oxygen thing and water and food could be imported, but creating the buildings themselves is just impossible. If its almost impossible by today's standards, it sure isn't any easier then.

hold on so building a city underwater is stupid but sea slug made chemicals that let you shoot pritty much everything on earth out of your arm are a-ok? ya sorry just seems thats a bit more unbelivable granted that less a plot point then a biological head ack but still. (grammer nazies heads just blew up reading this)

Jeez this thread is still running? I'm pretty sure I made this post 2 months ago.... yep exactly on December 14th. Nice timing there!

OT: With regards to plasmids there is such thing as artistic license. While yes the plasmids are a bit weirder, they at least have some sort of explanation, while the whole city of Rapture evidently came out of literally nowhere, with no explanations to where Andrew Ryan found all the cash, the materials, or the manpower to build it without ANYONE noticing. So yeah, Rapture's the bigger plot-hole.

It's time travelers, I say! Time Travelers!

 

[Alex909]

Uncharted 2: Nate mentions there is no way that he and Harry should break into the museum, 2 people were killed last time someone tried to break in, one barely got away. This means the museum guards must be some pretty tough guys. So why Nate is strongly against bringing guns there is beyond me.

Because breaking into museum and shooting a guard is murder? The guards weren't exactly bad guys there.

Even if they didn't need to kill, just in case. Harry mentions that he would feel a lot safer with a gun. Nate doesn't even think of tranquiliser guns. Besides the guards murdered the two criminals. Which although might of been a good thing, still murder.

 

[Brad Shepard]

The way Subject Delta comes back in bioshock 2

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They just found his body, 10 years later, when any other body would have been nothing but bones by now, got his DNA from it, and shoved it into the Vista Chamber? and correct me if im wrong, but whernt the chambers only in use for the Ryan's?

 

[Brad Shepard]

why in ME didnt the asari on the concil share your memories of the vision like liara did?

because she thinks she knows it all, besides, sex is a personal thing for the asari, except the Arduct Yakshi im guessing.

 

[gryewolf]

Pokemon. Their always asking you to complete the pokedex as if somebody else hasn't already. Same with the Elite four, none of the past characters are ever mentioned. And you freaking capture god, I mean honestly that wouldn't screw up the universe? Same with capturing the rulers of time and space. So Pokemon, millions of plot holes within a big plot hole.

 

[The Heik]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Firstly, the premise of Rapture was that it was to be a sanctuary for the best and most brilliant of the industrial, medical, botanical and philosophical world. Now usually, those guys have tons and tons of money, and are usually pissed off by regulations. That means you have people who want to build and expand on it, with the money and skills to do so.

Secondly, I'm sure if you were offered a job working as a builder for a ton of money, or you were offered a MASSIVE order of metal with NO QUESTIONS ASKED written in gold on every leaf on a money tree. So there, you've got the resources.

Even with the best and brightest in the world AND supposedly unlimited resources, the whole damn thing is still ridiculously unfeasible. Building a small pressurized hut at the bottom of the sea would be hard, especially at that time. Building skyscrapers with windows that could withstand the pressure, hell, buildings ALONE would be ridiculous. I guess they solved the oxygen thing and water and food could be imported, but creating the buildings themselves is just impossible. If its almost impossible by today's standards, it sure isn't any easier then.

hold on so building a city underwater is stupid but sea slug made chemicals that let you shoot pritty much everything on earth out of your arm are a-ok? ya sorry just seems thats a bit more unbelivable granted that less a plot point then a biological head ack but still. (grammer nazies heads just blew up reading this)

Jeez this thread is still running? I'm pretty sure I made this post 2 months ago.... yep exactly on December 14th. Nice timing there!

OT: With regards to plasmids there is such thing as artistic license. While yes the plasmids are a bit weirder, they at least have some sort of explanation, while the whole city of Rapture evidently came out of literally nowhere, with no explanations to where Andrew Ryan found all the cash, the materials, or the manpower to build it without ANYONE noticing. So yeah, Rapture's the bigger plot-hole.

It's time travelers, I say! Time Travelers!

......having you been rifling around in the prescription drugs again?

BTW nice time joking combined with your name

 

[Axeli]

Uncharted 2: Nate mentions there is no way that he and Harry should break into the museum, 2 people were killed last time someone tried to break in, one barely got away. This means the museum guards must be some pretty tough guys. So why Nate is strongly against bringing guns there is beyond me.

Because breaking into museum and shooting a guard is murder? The guards weren't exactly bad guys there.

Even if they didn't need to kill, just in case. Harry mentions that he would feel a lot safer with a gun. Nate doesn't even think of tranquiliser guns. Besides the guards murdered the two criminals. Which although might of been a good thing, still murder.

Err... How is that a plot hole? One of them did realize they should bring tranquilizer guns anyway. Lack of imagination on Nate's part for not thinking of it himself, but not even nearly a plot hole.

Also, it's not murder depending on what exactly happened. If the thieves who were shot attacked the guards first or were armed, it was at most a bit trigger happy. The fact the Nate was unarmed in fact probably saved him as the guards only arrested him.

Bringing a gun into a situation where you don't intend to shoot anyone just because you feel safer with it isn't smart anyway.