Largest plot hole in a game?
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He survived in a situation where survival is insaneMR.Spartacus said:
He saved fellow scientists lives
He went to the aliens fucking HOME WORLD and kicked a major alien in its ass.
Mix that up with word of mouth, and glorifying, he becomes a symbol of hope when he returns.
yeah wasnt that suppose to be a quest? Like going in there to the HK-50 factory and shutting it down?steeltrain said:
1. the drones, at least, sound like gasoline/petrol motors to me.alloneword said:
2. the first practical computer was invented in the second world war. Perhaps Ryan had every legitimate resident of rapture tagged with some sort of isotope or even a radio tag, and if it goes If([Person-shaped object] AND [IDTag.Presence= False]) Then: Hostile = True ("hacking" them could be just switching the boolean in the if portion)
raunchious said:
Since the planet the master chief ends up orbiting is another shield world or fore-runner installation, maybe the portal system is the Stargate and the Halo firing sequence gives off some sort of energy that caused the portal to change destinations mid-transit
MGS's increasingly contrived ways to bring people back from the dead for pointless shock value, before explaining them away by effectively shouting "SCIENCE!" at the player never ceases to grate.
Also the whole "you've created a time paradox!" thing. Yeah, it might be a little in-joke, but it still irritated me.
Also the whole "you've created a time paradox!" thing. Yeah, it might be a little in-joke, but it still irritated me.
I don't know about largest plot hole, but I want some goddamn explanation for the Thorian from Mass Effect.
It managed to enthrall Protheans, and yet the Reapers never found and destroyed it? What was it? Where was it from? Why was it so eager to kill?
Gah.
It managed to enthrall Protheans, and yet the Reapers never found and destroyed it? What was it? Where was it from? Why was it so eager to kill?
Gah.
i want to say fahrenheit but that wasnt a plot hole it was just nuts....well then i would say mass effect 2 just because i think some sort of goverment would wonder why there is one relay is big and flashs red compared to the rest that are blue also why i could blow it up and make it so they couldnt invade anymore
Where do most of Samus's upgrade go between metroid prime games?
I know she loses some at the start of 1 and 2 (not even 3).
But she only lost basic stuff.
She didn't even start with the Super Missile, or the Screw Attack.
Those are pretty neat things to have.
Also, while Metroid Prime 1 had this covered, why do all those planets have very specific upgrades that would be useless to anyone else hidden away in a back room especially for Samus?
One even survived a Super Nova.
I know she loses some at the start of 1 and 2 (not even 3).
But she only lost basic stuff.
She didn't even start with the Super Missile, or the Screw Attack.
Those are pretty neat things to have.
Also, while Metroid Prime 1 had this covered, why do all those planets have very specific upgrades that would be useless to anyone else hidden away in a back room especially for Samus?
I wondered that myself, but someone pointed out that while destroying a Mass Relay could be a little harder then usual.black orchid1 said:
One even survived a Super Nova.
The biggest plothole in any game is in Kingdom Hearts 2, where the Nobodies atempt to regain their hearts.
The plothole are the Nobodies themselves. The game constantly reminds us that they don't have any emotions at all, that they don't even really exist (wich is really confusing) But if they don't have emotions, how can they posess the desire, or the will that arives from desire, that drives all our actions. Without emotions there is nothing that drives humans. We can see that in the fact that people with serious emotional deetachments often get phsycatrist treatment.
The plothole are the Nobodies themselves. The game constantly reminds us that they don't have any emotions at all, that they don't even really exist (wich is really confusing) But if they don't have emotions, how can they posess the desire, or the will that arives from desire, that drives all our actions. Without emotions there is nothing that drives humans. We can see that in the fact that people with serious emotional deetachments often get phsycatrist treatment.
AC2: The first explanation is that they wanted Desmond alive. Remember, he's the only living map they had to find the Apple with. However, I don't like this explanation very much, as so much other equipment could have been used, such as stun and flash grenades, that would incapacitate him, and not kill him.sln333 said:
The second explanation I favour slightly more, is also a spoiler about the end of Brotherhood. You have been warned.
In order to convince Desmond that he had to find the Apple, they staged his, "escape," in AC2 using Lucy, who has in fact been a templar from the beginning. They had no reason to harm him; therefore, the guards sent to capture him were purely for show, and not needing any real weapons.
The Reapers have no interest in the Thorian, The Reapers only "harvest" space faring species who utilizes the Mass Effect technology, The Thorian doesn't fit into this category and so was of no interest.T-Bone24 said:
I dunno. If you actually look at each separate Zelda story, the reason why Zelda gets taken prisoner is actually varied. In Twilight Princess, she's basically just a PoW. In Wind Waker... well, that one is actually rather complicated. Ocarina of Time he actually fails to kidnap her (Only gets her briefly when she is young, in trying to get the Triforce of Wisdom).shewolf51 said:
In all honesty, I'd say Zelda games are pretty good about this kind of thing.
Three words: AK74 in 1963. Seriously, out of all the weapons in Black Ops that piss me off, none of them piss me off as much as the fact that they included a gun with the year it was made, which was later than even the latest level in the game, in the name of the gun. I mean, how did the regulars get those? Did Russia have a time machine? Well, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if they did have a time machine in the COD universe... but still, it stands, there were no AK74s in 1963.
This one bothers me. It really, really bothers me. I know why they did it for gameplay reasons, but it would have been so easy (well, maybe not, but in a game that vast it seems like it should have been) to switch things up.
So, wait...if Kate dies, Packie doesn't come along for the vengeance?
Booo.
For that matter, the friendship system in general not having a huge payoff at the end was as much a huge plot hole as a gameplay issue. I know that a helicopter would have in any case been needed for the last mission if you killed Dimitri rather than take the deal, and a boat for the one where you let Dimitri live, but would it have been difficult to get Brucie to be the pilot if his Like and Respect were over, say, 90? To have Dwayne or his boys helping you in the ground-based first part of the missions? To have, as mentioned, Packie along if it was Kate who was killed?
Little Jacob being along for the ride is obvious because he's the most loyal friend you have in the game, and of course Roman in the ending when he survives because it's family. But no one else? It would have been a nice payoff for those of us who put up with your "friends'" passive-aggressiveness throughout the entire game without ostracizing them.
Booo.
For that matter, the friendship system in general not having a huge payoff at the end was as much a huge plot hole as a gameplay issue. I know that a helicopter would have in any case been needed for the last mission if you killed Dimitri rather than take the deal, and a boat for the one where you let Dimitri live, but would it have been difficult to get Brucie to be the pilot if his Like and Respect were over, say, 90? To have Dwayne or his boys helping you in the ground-based first part of the missions? To have, as mentioned, Packie along if it was Kate who was killed?
Little Jacob being along for the ride is obvious because he's the most loyal friend you have in the game, and of course Roman in the ending when he survives because it's family. But no one else? It would have been a nice payoff for those of us who put up with your "friends'" passive-aggressiveness throughout the entire game without ostracizing them.
in ME2, why the entire combat-capable crew crams into the shuttle that until then could only carry 3 people, leaving to do some unknown mission, just as EDI installs the reaper IFF and the collectors kidnap you whole crew...with no one to defend them, of course, beacause you all left for no given reason.
might not be the biggest, but certainly the most glaringly obvious and immersion-breaking one.
might not be the biggest, but certainly the most glaringly obvious and immersion-breaking one.