Lawyer Sues Over "Seizure Triggers" in Videogames

theultimateend

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Kross said:
I still remember seeing seizure warnings on ALL my old NES instruction books. They've been on this for a long time, and class action lawsuits like this benefit nobody but the lawyer.

I generally read personal injury lawyers [http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=jim the hammer shapiro] as "Ambulance Chaser".
Same.

I can't recall a single game I own no matter how old that didn't warn me that flashy shit could make me seizure.

Turns out sugar ended up having a more negative effect.
 

JohnReaper

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Why in the love of Arcadia is this always happening to video games Go after movies sometimes they have violence and flashing lights
 

Daveman

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yeah, you know those fuckers who make nuts, let's sue them.

loads of people have serious allergic reactions to them, and yet these bastards don't bother fixing this?!?!?!
 

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So he's treating this like that McDonald's lawsuit for making those girls fat - which escapes my mind if it was successful since I stopped caring - or that lawsuit against Cigarettes - which admittedly made sense - by trying to find Video Games an addictive substance that is only addictive like a casino is and no one - to my knowledge - has raised a finger at them yet.

It's the bright lights that attract people to games, it's the fact the sequence of lights release endorphins that make us find it enjoyable the same as the lights in a casino do. That's how they get people to gamble, the same for why video games sell so well. Sure some people come for the bright lights and stay for the gameplay or story, but it's still the sequence of lights that got you there. Whether you know it or not. Or at least that's what science has told me.

It's addictive, sure. It can cause a variety of health problems, sure. But to blame them when they gave a heads up at all instead of letting common sense say it for them like a certain clown does, that's where I call shenanigans. And poor parenting, which I find so humorous that it appears so often to be the actual cause instead of video games.

I mean, if my kid had a chance at epilepsy by hereditary standards or otherwise, I'd get him checked out to be sure. Luckily all my kids - should I ever have any - would have to fear is heart problems, maybe lupus, bad eyesight at some point in their life, ADD/ADHD, no beard, and probably bipolar to outright dementia. And that's just some of what I've got in my genes... Yay me, I won the genetic jackpot...
 

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the case wont get too far. its required by law to have a warning for those with epilepsy on video games. This is like trying to sue subway for not carrying Scrabble pieces, but the case fails because the advertisement CLEARLY states that you can play WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. This guy is a lawyer, and cant even read the fine print.
 

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Videogames=(Moving Pictures + Flashing Lights)=Epileptic reations
That is how it works.But the problem is the fact that this is not only caused by the video games.Hell almost any movie or T.V. show can do you in.
 

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...I'm not quite sure how to feel about this, honestly. On one hand, we don't need more lawyers running around suing video game companies for silly reasons, but this lawyer's reason seems somewhat legit.

More investigation may be required if we're going to find out whether this man's our friend or foe, and whether or not these seizures are common enough to reinforce his case.
The catch is, most games today do carry a siezure warning, if he's targeting titles from 7 years ago? I don't remember, honestly, if they had warnings back then.

I'm inclined to think that these incidents aren't really that common, but we'll find out soon enough, I guess.
Pretty sure there are seizure warnings in some games I have from 5 or 6 years ago, so there very well could be warnings in a 7 year old game.

Also who the hell can't figure out that rapidly moving lights will trigger seizures?

HOW IS THAT NOT OBVIOUS!
 

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Wow, now-a-days it seems that lawyers can sue air because people might choke without it.
 

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The catch is, most games today do carry a siezure warning, if he's targeting titles from 7 years ago? I don't remember, honestly, if they had warnings back then.

I'm inclined to think that these incidents aren't really that common, but we'll find out soon enough, I guess.
They did back then, I remember the warning on "Legend Of Dragoon" because it was unskippable and pissed me off more that the hardest boss.

Overall, this is fucking stupid. I know the cussing takes away from my argument but come on. Milk makes me have gas, I'm going to follow suit on cows.
 

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So he's treating this like that McDonald's lawsuit for making those girls fat - which escapes my mind if it was successful since I stopped caring - or that lawsuit against Cigarettes - which admittedly made sense - by trying to find Video Games an addictive substance that is only addictive like a casino is and no one - to my knowledge - has raised a finger at them yet.

It's the bright lights that attract people to games, it's the fact the sequence of lights release endorphins that make us find it enjoyable the same as the lights in a casino do. That's how they get people to gamble, the same for why video games sell so well. Sure some people come for the bright lights and stay for the gameplay or story, but it's still the sequence of lights that got you there. Whether you know it or not. Or at least that's what science has told me.

It's addictive, sure. It can cause a variety of health problems, sure. But to blame them when they gave a heads up at all instead of letting common sense say it for them like a certain clown does, that's where I call shenanigans. And poor parenting, which I find so humorous that it appears so often to be the actual cause instead of video games.

I mean, if my kid had a chance at epilepsy by hereditary standards or otherwise, I'd get him checked out to be sure. Luckily all my kids - should I ever have any - would have to fear is heart problems, maybe lupus, bad eyesight at some point in their life, ADD/ADHD, no beard, and probably bipolar to outright dementia. And that's just some of what I've got in my genes... Yay me, I won the genetic jackpot...
i love this post. if i could give you a cookie, i would. instead, ill give you +70 internetz.
 

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How can the warning be anymore visible, there's an entire booklet dedicated to it and Nintendo has put a warning screen in their games as early as the GBA, i'm actually not entirely sure about Sony and Microsoft though

But don't movies have the abilities to give people seizures, heck the internet can aswell

This lawsuit won't do much
 

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If the boy was epileptic or prone to seizures, wouldn't it be the parent's responsibility to make sure anything of the video genre be closely monitored to see if it's dangerous for him? If they didn't know, well... You find out you're allergic to peanuts somehow.
 

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He doesn't have a leg to stand on. First, all games come with a seizure warning on the box and on the front page of the manual. Second, a 7 year old game is hardly compelling evidence. Third, people who are sensitive to flashing lights generally avoid anything of that sort. Accidental injuries are one thing, but the case that it's the industries fault that they happen will be flimsy.

Besides, all this will solve is games made in the US. He isn't really solving the problem (if it can be called that) if people are still buying imported games.
 

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What action does this idiot suggest taking? Replacing all video games with blank screens?
 

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I have never seen a videogame without a warning in the begging of the game, or in the manuel about the seizures. I even think that the systems come with a seizure warning too. Outside of purposely trying to avoid the warning(which means you knew about but choose to avoid it, thus rendering this moot), I have no idea how you can avoid the warning and if you are warned and choose not to act on it, then the company is not at fault for your stupidity. Of course in the U.S. law system the idiot will probably win and we'll all need to have doctor's notes saying that we do not suffer from seizures before we can buy games.
 

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benbenthegamerman said:
Mr. Grey said:
So he's treating this like that McDonald's lawsuit for making those girls fat - which escapes my mind if it was successful since I stopped caring - or that lawsuit against Cigarettes - which admittedly made sense - by trying to find Video Games an addictive substance that is only addictive like a casino is and no one - to my knowledge - has raised a finger at them yet.

It's the bright lights that attract people to games, it's the fact the sequence of lights release endorphins that make us find it enjoyable the same as the lights in a casino do. That's how they get people to gamble, the same for why video games sell so well. Sure some people come for the bright lights and stay for the gameplay or story, but it's still the sequence of lights that got you there. Whether you know it or not. Or at least that's what science has told me.

It's addictive, sure. It can cause a variety of health problems, sure. But to blame them when they gave a heads up at all instead of letting common sense say it for them like a certain clown does, that's where I call shenanigans. And poor parenting, which I find so humorous that it appears so often to be the actual cause instead of video games.

I mean, if my kid had a chance at epilepsy by hereditary standards or otherwise, I'd get him checked out to be sure. Luckily all my kids - should I ever have any - would have to fear is heart problems, maybe lupus, bad eyesight at some point in their life, ADD/ADHD, no beard, and probably bipolar to outright dementia. And that's just some of what I've got in my genes... Yay me, I won the genetic jackpot...
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Thank you, I will humbly accept these internetz.
 

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Actually, Seizure warnings has been in the games and console's since... the NES I believe.

I remember that when I played as a kid (and overdid it)I felt "jittery" and "twitchy" but with some rest I was fine again. And of course, my parents usually wouldn't let me play that long.

I believe that this case comes from a money grubbing scheme, or some kind of demonization of the genre or both. In any case, I don't think the lawyer's case will go trhough, the risk are indicated and I believe that the "defective product" argument is too vague.
 

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Fucking retarded that's all i got to really say on the matter.
The douche bag probably just wants to milk some money off of video games and since he failed on the first time he's just going to make lies to incite ignorant overprotective parents to do something so in turn they pay him to sue the gaming industry and win some money.