I really don't see the point in censoring religion anymore.
There's jut to reason to.
Petition signed.
There's jut to reason to.
Petition signed.
They don't because Satanism and Satan have nothing to do with each other. It is just philosophical description used to refer to the fact that they are against the basic Abrahamic morality.kailus13 said:Presumably they thought he was an atheist troll.
I'm kinda surprised Satanists care what people think about them.
Go read a book by LaVey; kiddo - would you kindly?Atary77 said:Who ever called the guy an "atheist pig" obviously doesn't know what an atheist truly is. Atheism is the belief in no gods or deities. Where as Satanism is the worship of Satan and the belief in him as a deity. If you're gonna hurl insults at someone get your facts straight and read your books kids.
Well they are religious believers like anyone else. Why wouldnt they be upset?kailus13 said:Presumably they thought he was an atheist troll.Atary77 said:Who ever called the guy an "atheist pig" obviously doesn't know what an atheist truly is. Atheism is the belief in no gods or deities. Where as Satanism is the worship of Satan and the belief in him as a deity. If you're gonna hurl insults at someone get your facts straight and read your books kids.
I'm kinda surprised Satanists care what people think about them.
Indeed. I don't follow any one religion, though I still believe they should all be treated equally in the eyes of law/policy. If you are going to censor religion, it's an all or nothing thing.kirwan464 said:Either censor all religions and there fictional deities or none they should not single out any one religion.
Same thing I was coming to say. I can feel the butthurt from here.Atary77 said:Who ever called the guy an "atheist pig" obviously doesn't know what an atheist truly is. Atheism is the belief in no gods or deities. Where as Satanism is the worship of Satan and the belief in him as a deity. If you're gonna hurl insults at someone get your facts straight and read your books kids.
Also yeah he should totally just turn off the word filter.
TIL: LaVeyan Satanism = All Satanism. Lol...SinisterGehe said:Go read a book by LaVey; kiddo - would you kindly?
I don't. It doesn't have to be a religious intensive site for a handful of religious people to feel compelled to tell an atheist or anyone non-christian to burn in hell. They love doing it actually. Besides, the article didn't say he was flooded with statements like that, but even just a few is enough to validate the statement.major_chaos said:Also I find his claims that he was told to "burn in hell you atheist pig" highly suspect.
Very true, but to a lot of religious types, anything that isn't their particular brand of spiritual woohoo is all lumped into the same thing.Atary77 said:Who ever called the guy an "atheist pig" obviously doesn't know what an atheist truly is. Atheism is the belief in no gods or deities. Where as Satanism is the worship of Satan and the belief in him as a deity. If you're gonna hurl insults at someone get your facts straight and read your books kids.
Also yeah he should totally just turn off the word filter.
the point is, such filters should not exist in first place.SupahGamuh said:Meh... they could just turn off the filter and call it a day.
It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run. You should never be allowed to censort a word regardless of text. We are still very far from freedom of speech if we tolerate automatic filtering on the internet. It is speech control in its purest form.medv4380 said:Also, Freedom of Religion, and Speech doesn't apply in this context. Example, if Rush Limbaugh says something that his Radio Carriers doesn't like they can censor him, or fire his gold platted microphone.
Religion is a cult that does not have to pay taxes. You do not treat them differently in terms of censorship.Kalezian said:Before we go off on "cults are not recognized religions, so they dont count", Scientology was given cult status in the EU, so why doesn't Xenu get filtered while Satan does.
Funny thing is the worse coutnerparts Stalin and Mao are not censored.Fappy said:"Infernal Overlord Lucifer Morningstar"
I am saving this one for later. They also censor the word "Hitler" for some reason. What if you're a historian and you want to talk about the life and time of Hitler? Well you can't do it in the LoL Client!
Unless you turn off the filter...
No it doesn't. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion only applies to the Governments ability to restrict it. Catholics can choose to freely associate with only Catholics if they choose. They can choose to hire only Catholics for their businesses if they choose. The owner and operator of a web site can choose to host any text he wants, and is free to censor any text on his site he doesn't want. Claiming that LoL is infringing on his freedom of speech is a moronic claim when in reality he is trying to infringe of LoL freedom of speech and freedom of association. So I'm sorry it does apply just against the nimrod Satanist.Strazdas said:It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run. You should never be allowed to censort a word regardless of text. We are still very far from freedom of speech if we tolerate automatic filtering on the internet. It is speech control in its purest form.medv4380 said:Also, Freedom of Religion, and Speech doesn't apply in this context. Example, if Rush Limbaugh says something that his Radio Carriers doesn't like they can censor him, or fire his gold platted microphone.
Notice the word "Should". I never said it is infringing on current laws. I said we shuold make laws where it would. Hence my comment of us being far from real freedom of speech. Websites, radios, ect, choose their content, becasue the basic principle they run on is dictatorship. There is one person who decides to share his power with other people (admins, moderator) who decide the rules. The only major difference from historican censorship is the ease of migration, hence most dictators seek to appease their audience to keep it. They do have authoritarian right to ban any word they want, hence the problem. I would sugest us, the users, to not remain happy with such censorship, and initiator of this petition, be his goals misguided as they are, are part of it.medv4380 said:No it doesn't. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion only applies to the Governments ability to restrict it. Catholics can choose to freely associate with only Catholics if they choose. They can choose to hire only Catholics for their businesses if they choose. The owner and operator of a web site can choose to host any text he wants, and is free to censor any text on his site he doesn't want. Claiming that LoL is infringing on his freedom of speech is a moronic claim when in reality he is trying to infringe of LoL freedom of speech and freedom of association. So I'm sorry it does apply just against the nimrod Satanist.Strazdas said:It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run. You should never be allowed to censort a word regardless of text. We are still very far from freedom of speech if we tolerate automatic filtering on the internet. It is speech control in its purest form.medv4380 said:Also, Freedom of Religion, and Speech doesn't apply in this context. Example, if Rush Limbaugh says something that his Radio Carriers doesn't like they can censor him, or fire his gold platted microphone.
In other words your all for taking away people rights to associate with whomever they want to associate with. How about we force Christians to put Budda in the bible, or any other absurd thing your twisted view of "freedom" would mean. The people who decide the "rules" happens to be the people who own the servers, and no one else. The Freedom of Speech is wasted on children like you who advocate ripping rights away from others so to impose your views upon others.Strazdas said:Notice the word "Should". I never said it is infringing on current laws. I said we shuold make laws where it would. Hence my comment of us being far from real freedom of speech. Websites, radios, ect, choose their content, becasue the basic principle they run on is dictatorship. There is one person who decides to share his power with other people (admins, moderator) who decide the rules. The only major difference from historican censorship is the ease of migration, hence most dictators seek to appease their audience to keep it. They do have authoritarian right to ban any word they want, hence the problem. I would sugest us, the users, to not remain happy with such censorship, and initiator of this petition, be his goals misguided as they are, are part of it.medv4380 said:No it doesn't. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion only applies to the Governments ability to restrict it. Catholics can choose to freely associate with only Catholics if they choose. They can choose to hire only Catholics for their businesses if they choose. The owner and operator of a web site can choose to host any text he wants, and is free to censor any text on his site he doesn't want. Claiming that LoL is infringing on his freedom of speech is a moronic claim when in reality he is trying to infringe of LoL freedom of speech and freedom of association. So I'm sorry it does apply just against the nimrod Satanist.Strazdas said:It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run. You should never be allowed to censort a word regardless of text. We are still very far from freedom of speech if we tolerate automatic filtering on the internet. It is speech control in its purest form.medv4380 said:Also, Freedom of Religion, and Speech doesn't apply in this context. Example, if Rush Limbaugh says something that his Radio Carriers doesn't like they can censor him, or fire his gold platted microphone.
in response to my assertion that the Freedom of Speech aka the First amendment doesn't apply. Ether I'm right, and it doesn't and should never apply, or your "should" is a nonsensical quirk of yours to try and have an escape when you're clearly in the wrong.It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run.
Well congratulations ,you do are master of misinterpretation of what you read.medv4380 said:In other words your all for taking away people rights to associate with whomever they want to associate with. How about we force Christians to put Budda in the bible, or any other absurd thing your twisted view of "freedom" would mean. The people who decide the "rules" happens to be the people who own the servers, and no one else. The Freedom of Speech is wasted on children like you who advocate ripping rights away from others so to impose your views upon others.
You did say it does infringe on current law when you said
in response to my assertion that the Freedom of Speech aka the First amendment doesn't apply. Ether I'm right, and it doesn't and should never apply, or your "should" is a nonsensical quirk of yours to try and have an escape when you're clearly in the wrong.It does. It ALWAYS does. You can censort context on a radio show you run.