Leaked Skyrim Manual Reveals "Hirelings"

[Scars Unseen]

No need to cook. I just want to steal sweet rolls from children.

That's funny, I was planning on cooking sweet rolls and using them to steal children.

On topic, this leak is a good thing for Bethesda... It was pretty much the only way anyone was going to read the manual.

 

[EHKOS]

I like the fact that they used the lockpick mechanic from Fallout. I am really really good at those for some reason. Although I just realized I got it on the Xbox so I can't use the console when shit fucks up

 

[freaper]

Isn't "leaking" a synonym for pre-release nowadays?

 

[YokuG]

Isn't "leaking" a synonym for pre-release nowadays?

Naah, thats Minecraft

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I don't know if you'd call be mean or bleeding-heart but:

If you are going to have slaves in your game, then actually call them slaves!

I won't stand for any of these "hireling" euphemisms. The worst crimes in history have been dressed up with such euphemisms, they are far deadlier than swear words like the N-word. Euphemisms like "The Final Solution".

Risky as fuck, but if you played it right and used hirelings as a commentary on the evils of slavery then I think that just might work.

But almost every recent Bethesda RPG has had people like this. The word 'hireling' means you are hiring them. As in, they work for you for a paycheck. Its not slavery and you're twisting words and overreacting too much to them.

 

[Inkidu]

Shut up, shut up and take my money now! Well, technically they already have my money because I paid off my pre-order in full months ago...

Still... take it now!

 

[theultimateend]

The fact that there was a leak is slightly less astounding than the news that there is a manual. I thought those had gone the way of the dodo. We're expected to read a book to play a computer game? Bizarre.

Yep. I was surprised one existed. The leak is probably staged.

 

[Treblaine]

I don't know if you'd call be mean or bleeding-heart but:

If you are going to have slaves in your game, then actually call them slaves!

I won't stand for any of these "hireling" euphemisms. The worst crimes in history have been dressed up with such euphemisms, they are far deadlier than swear words like the N-word. Euphemisms like "The Final Solution".

Risky as fuck, but if you played it right and used hirelings as a commentary on the evils of slavery then I think that just might work.

But almost every recent Bethesda RPG has had people like this. The word 'hireling' means you are hiring them. As in, they work for you for a paycheck. Its not slavery and you're twisting words and overreacting too much to them.

(I'm going to have to go back and edit that comment I made)

Yes, it certainly seems like and odd thing to say now - especially with hindsight - but my issue is mainly with the Diablo version of hirelings. How it is a one up-front payment of a relatively small sum for you have to have them harvest a far larger worth of gold and loot.

If they were free they would surely just go after the loot themselves... right?

Or have I missed something?

 

[Druyn]

I don't know if you'd call be mean or bleeding-heart but:

If you are going to have slaves in your game, then actually call them slaves!

I won't stand for any of these "hireling" euphemisms. The worst crimes in history have been dressed up with such euphemisms, they are far deadlier than swear words like the N-word. Euphemisms like "The Final Solution".

Risky as fuck, but if you played it right and used hirelings as a commentary on the evils of slavery then I think that just might work.

EDIT: (My main concern is with the Diablo depiction of hirings where you "acquire" their services for their whole life for a sum far less than they amount of loot you expect them to harvest for you. If they were free men surely they would just get the loot themselves... that's why I think they are slaves.

Truly, hirelings should be either far more limited (only carry shit) or cost car more or work on an agreement of loot sharing not flat price/rate.

Or you could try actually reading the article and not just skim it. You hire them from taverns to fight with you and help you out in combat. They're basically like companions from Fallout. So the correct term would be Mercenary or something along those lines. They are in no way slaves.

EDIT: Now in response to your edit, I would disagree. Theyre essentially setting the price, you aren't giving them an ultimatum. This is how they choose to do business. Why they would deliberately hamper their profits, I don't know, but that's the way they're choosing to do it. DOn't judge them for trying to make a living through weird job practices.

 

[Treblaine]

I don't know if you'd call be mean or bleeding-heart but:

If you are going to have slaves in your game, then actually call them slaves!

I won't stand for any of these "hireling" euphemisms. The worst crimes in history have been dressed up with such euphemisms, they are far deadlier than swear words like the N-word. Euphemisms like "The Final Solution".

Risky as fuck, but if you played it right and used hirelings as a commentary on the evils of slavery then I think that just might work.

EDIT: (My main concern is with the Diablo depiction of hirings where you "acquire" their services for their whole life for a sum far less than they amount of loot you expect them to harvest for you. If they were free men surely they would just get the loot themselves... that's why I think they are slaves.

Truly, hirelings should be either far more limited (only carry shit) or cost car more or work on an agreement of loot sharing not flat price/rate.

Or you could try actually reading the article and not just skim it. You hire them from taverns to fight with you and help you out in combat. They're basically like companions from Fallout. So the correct term would be Mercenary or something along those lines. They are in no way slaves.

EDIT: Now in response to your edit, I would disagree. Theyre essentially setting the price, you aren't giving them an ultimatum. This is how they choose to do business. Why they would deliberately hamper their profits, I don't know, but that's the way they're choosing to do it. DOn't judge them for trying to make a living through weird job practices.

The problem with this deal is how it is one time fee for a lifetime of work, and when you pay up the money is not in their inventory so it didn't go to them.

I think you are giving them a tacit ultimatum in how they seem utterly incapable of objecting though unbearable suffering and even up to death.

I know I'm being a bit snarky but that's a slave!

 

[Fbuh]

These hirelings, I hope most of them are naked females with tantos and Dragon shouts of their own that give pleasurable results!

Likely a mod for that...

I read something somewhere that confirmed companions already, though I'm wondering whether they are more conventional mercs or actual characters like in Fallout 3 or New Vegas.

Companions have indeed already been confirmed. Not only can you hire them to fight, you can marry them and move in with them as well.

And indeed, somewhere, someone (or someones, this is the internet) are planning their Khajiit-Argonian-Orc homosexual 3-way marriage.

Rule 34 slips in (hur hur) everywhere

 

[Ithera]

Everything is "leaked" these days isn't it? No matter, this could spice things up a little.

 

[Vrach]

Um, didn't we have this information before? It's also been revealed you can have an animal as a companion afaik.

 

[Daveman]

Well I'm a bit annoyed with the assigning spells to a specific hand or shouts. Maybe it'll be great but I feel like it's a step back to Morrowind. Also spells were only remotely enjoyable in oblivion if you could hotkey properly which looks impossible in this.

Fuck it, I'll still get it.

 

[[zonking great]]

I don't give a damn about hirelings. I just want my items on showcase and for them to be movable. And the houses better be nice to have, too! Ah, Cheydinhal...

 

[Rossmallo]

The fact that Speech and Mercantile have been merged is a universal good.

 

[Spiritofpower]

Companions? Bleh. Morrowind modders did that years ago. And they did it better, for the most part.

 

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life]

ANOTHER GLORIOUS DAY IN DOVAHKIIN'S ARMY.

Talk. To. Dovahkiin.

In all things, a high Sneak skill must prevail.

I didn't sign on with you so you can be playin' Dragonborn out here.

In the words of Sheogorath: CHEESE! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!

I heard there are dragons out here... you ever seen one?


That last one wasn't even altered...Wait...EPIC FORESHADOWING, BETHESDA.