Let's point out silly double standards!

[Lucem712]

when I was in highschool (all girls) the world of sex and all that because VERY confusing

being a "slut" is bad....but being "fridged" is also bad?

its ok for guys to sleep around but when girls do its bad?

wait...having sex is "good" but it can also be bad and somthing to be ridiculed for and can get you lebelled a slut? YOUR the slut not him?.

...waaaaaahhh?

I agree with that one, also the one about how girls can get any guy in bed but guys have the hardest time getting laid. Girls can't just go out and nail 10 guys because not all women look like [insert hot actress here] and guys will just ignore her for the sluttiest girl in the room. Also, on that point, girls get friend-zoned too.

 

[Vault101]

really want you to see how guys can see it as being shameful. All guys don't think this way(myself included) but some do. Most of the time in porno, women are being degraded. Paying them to have sex on screen, but it is not always just that. After all there are pornos where the guy tries to to see how far he can shove his member down her throat as she gags for air. Really gross ones where all the men beat off into a cup, then the women drinks about a pint of semen. Don't think it's wrong for a women to enjoy sex, but the simple act of penetration is where guys start judging them. Of course it's not hard to see why. Some woman has had sex in every hole and some guy finds out about it, he tends to put her on a lower standard if he is not dating her.

but this has nothing to do with porn..I'm talking about real life...they are very different

yeah the natural reaction to somone who sleeps around and apears to have little self worth is negatve <-and mabye theres a correlation there (just going by anecdotal evidence)

but then people can be into all kinds of things, if they want to indulge whatever then thats their thing..regardless of gender

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Is this really about double standards, or just you overreacting to pony haters? Again.

 

[Vault101]

I agree with that one, also the one about how girls can get any guy in bed but guys have the hardest time getting laid. Girls can't just go out and nail 10 guys because not all women look like [insert hot actress here] and guys will just ignore her for the sluttiest girl in the room. Also, on that point, girls get friend-zoned too.

also saftey...the Idea of going to some random guys house is terrifying..and filled with risks (well persoanlly anyway), also the chances of orgasm are lower,

 

[Vault101]

Really isn't that different. Alot of men have shaped their opinions of women through porno. Make it a point to tell me that we don't get influenced by what we see because it is not real life. Pretty much everyone on the planet has been influenced by some other means that may not ring true in the world around them.

there may be truth to that...I supose, but I'd like to think some men have their head screwed on enough (or perhaps enough real life experience) to understand the difference, not that kinkyness is bad, its not

for clarity reasons then what does that mean? what does porn say about the dyncamic between men and women?

 

[Lucem712]

I agree with that one, also the one about how girls can get any guy in bed but guys have the hardest time getting laid. Girls can't just go out and nail 10 guys because not all women look like [insert hot actress here] and guys will just ignore her for the sluttiest girl in the room. Also, on that point, girls get friend-zoned too.

also saftey...the Idea of going to some random guys house is terrifying..and filled with risks (well persoanlly anyway), also the chances of orgasm are lower,

Definitely, he could be some kind of serial rapist or something. Also, I have a horrible sense of direction, so if I was wasted or whatever and ended up a dude's house, I probably couldn't find my way home if it wasn't somewhere I recognized.

 

[Reginald]

Certainly I agree that abusing people over an opinion is at best foolish.

I have to disagree. It's at worst foolish, at best satisfying and amusing.

...it's like "If I do something, it's fine. If YOU do something, it's terrible!" and things like that. Ones that are clear, and just plain silly.

Sometimes that's perfectly valid, though. Like, it's fine when the police lock someone up, but if I did it, I'd be breaking the law. Or, like, how I'm not allowed to fly a helicopter, but someone with a licence is. The world is based around double standards, really. Double standards can be pointless stupid, but the existence of the double standard is entirely necessary for society as we know it to function.

Which is why I'm allowed to criticize what I want, but people with different opinions aren't.

 

[Orange12345]

I'm not sure if this counts as a double standard but, one of the things I always hated about high school was that if you goofed off at any time you were told to "Act your age" and told that "your an ADULT now" but whenever it came down to things like swearing (not all the time obviously but once in awhile) or personal decisions like "I have gone to ever single class since the year started, the world won't end if I take one class off to go for a walk or read or something" you are punished for it like a child.

You are expected to act like an adult but are treated like a child is the gist I guess

 

[locoartero]

Doble standard: Atractive females can't rape men.
Yup, I'm guilty of this one too. I think we had a case with a hot nanny and a 14 year old we discussed here at The Escapist last year...
Also, [youtube]ejvyDn1TPr8[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8

I don't understand the video tag here. Why couldn't this have a normal forum interface?
You know, with pretty buttons that trigger forum code inserts...

 

[locoartero]

Here's a fun one from the media. You ever see Wedding Crashers? Just think of Gloria's characterization for a minute, and her interactions with Jeremy for the bulk of the film. In particular, consider that one scene in the bedroom

Spoiler

Where she ties Jeremy to the bedposts while he's asleep, duct-tapes his mouth shut to silence him, and forces herself on him, in what he later describes as his "midnight rape". This is a culmination to his repeatedly unsuccessful attempts at fending off her sexual advances

Now I want to you imagine that same scene with the genders reversed. Gloria's the man, Jeremy's the woman. The scene - actually most of their interactions - would never have gotten a green light under those circumstances. This, boys and girls is one of the Double Standards of Rape, specifically the double standards applied by the media to its depiction based on who is raping whom. As aptly put in the linked page's quote:

Obviously if you're watching a scene with a woman tied to a bed while a man forces sex on her, the final act of that movie will involve said man getting shot in the face by Bruce Willis. If, on the other hand, it's a man being tied down and forced into sex by a pretty lady, well, you're watching a wacky romantic comedy.

And, of course, ninja'd by Mordin Solus...


By a similar token, imagine a male student who is subject to the overt flirtations of his - admittedly attractive - teacher, to his apparent discomfort. Got your reaction in mind? Good. Flip the gender roles again. The young lady student is subject to the overt flirtations of her - admittedly handsome - teacher, to her apparent discomfort. More often than not, the latter is portrayed as sexual harrassment, the former...not as often.

And, of course, ninja'd by Mordin Solus...

 

[cerealnmuffin]

Growing up, my dad would complain if I played video games. Playing for an hour a day must mean I was addicted. He would then proceed to watch 4 hours of TV a day. So why is it that if you play games, it is considered a waste of time, but if you watch television where a quarter of your time will be spent watching advertisements, then it is considered normal and not addicted.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

really want you to see how guys can see it as being shameful. All guys don't think this way(myself included) but some do. Most of the time in porno, women are being degraded. Paying them to have sex on screen, but it is not always just that. After all there are pornos where the guy tries to to see how far he can shove his member down her throat as she gags for air. Really gross ones where all the men beat off into a cup, then the women drinks about a pint of semen. Don't think it's wrong for a women to enjoy sex, but the simple act of penetration is where guys start judging them. Of course it's not hard to see why. Some woman has had sex in every hole and some guy finds out about it, he tends to put her on a lower standard if he is not dating her.

but this has nothing to do with porn..I'm talking about real life...they are very different

yeah the natural reaction to somone who sleeps around and apears to have little self worth is negatve <-and mabye theres a correlation there (just going by anecdotal evidence)

but then people can be into all kinds of things, if they want to indulge whatever then thats their thing..regardless of gender

Really isn't that different. Alot of men have shaped their opinions of women through porno. Make it a point to tell me that we don't get influenced by what we see because it is not real life. Pretty much everyone on the planet has been influenced by some other means that may not ring true in the world around them.

.....I...I don't know what to say to somebody that takes their social ques from porno.

 

[Scarecrow]

Here's a fun one from the media. You ever see Wedding Crashers? Just think of Gloria's characterization for a minute, and her interactions with Jeremy for the bulk of the film. In particular, consider that one scene in the bedroom

Spoiler

Where she ties Jeremy to the bedposts while he's asleep, duct-tapes his mouth shut to silence him, and forces herself on him, in what he later describes as his "midnight rape". This is a culmination to his repeatedly unsuccessful attempts at fending off her sexual advances

Now I want to you imagine that same scene with the genders reversed. Gloria's the man, Jeremy's the woman. The scene - actually most of their interactions - would never have gotten a green light under those circumstances. This, boys and girls is one of the Double Standards of Rape, specifically the double standards applied by the media to its depiction based on who is raping whom. As aptly put in the linked page's quote:

Obviously if you're watching a scene with a woman tied to a bed while a man forces sex on her, the final act of that movie will involve said man getting shot in the face by Bruce Willis. If, on the other hand, it's a man being tied down and forced into sex by a pretty lady, well, you're watching a wacky romantic comedy.

By a similar token, imagine a male student who is subject to the overt flirtations of his - admittedly attractive - teacher, to his apparent discomfort. Got your reaction in mind? Good. Flip the gender roles again. The young lady student is subject to the overt flirtations of her - admittedly handsome - teacher, to her apparent discomfort. More often than not, the latter is portrayed as sexual harrassment, the former...not as often.

Yes! Thank you! This pisses me off to no end. It's being the subject of many arugments, and the end of even a friendship, but I stand by my point of view: Rape works on both sides. I think this is an awful double standard which needs to die out in both the media, and from public thought.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

really want you to see how guys can see it as being shameful. All guys don't think this way(myself included) but some do. Most of the time in porno, women are being degraded. Paying them to have sex on screen, but it is not always just that. After all there are pornos where the guy tries to to see how far he can shove his member down her throat as she gags for air. Really gross ones where all the men beat off into a cup, then the women drinks about a pint of semen. Don't think it's wrong for a women to enjoy sex, but the simple act of penetration is where guys start judging them. Of course it's not hard to see why. Some woman has had sex in every hole and some guy finds out about it, he tends to put her on a lower standard if he is not dating her.

but this has nothing to do with porn..I'm talking about real life...they are very different

yeah the natural reaction to somone who sleeps around and apears to have little self worth is negatve <-and mabye theres a correlation there (just going by anecdotal evidence)

but then people can be into all kinds of things, if they want to indulge whatever then thats their thing..regardless of gender

Really isn't that different. Alot of men have shaped their opinions of women through porno. Make it a point to tell me that we don't get influenced by what we see because it is not real life. Pretty much everyone on the planet has been influenced by some other means that may not ring true in the world around them.

.....I...I don't know what to say to somebody that takes their social ques from porno.

Really don't know what to say to someone who thinks I was talking about myself. After all, read what I wrote dumbass. Many people on this site keep doing this, I didn't say I felt that way know did I smart guy?

Then who are your referring to? Seriously, who are you referring to? Do you have friends that do this?

 

[lacktheknack]

Now, my example:

Homosexuality is wrong, because it says so in the Bible. Abominable, even. Harrumpf!

It also says in the Bible that you're not allowed to wear clothes made out of two different materials. Oh, that's just a metaphore or something, don't bother...

That was only for priests. And there's a few reasons that the Old Testament is not followed religiously any more, but I refuse to get into it for the same reason I try to stay out of the R&P forum.

Anywho:

Why is it that Mac hyper-enthusiasts are bashed for being exclusive Mac snobs, but the hate isn't there for snobby Linux users?

 

[artanis_neravar]

really want you to see how guys can see it as being shameful. All guys don't think this way(myself included) but some do. Most of the time in porno, women are being degraded. Paying them to have sex on screen, but it is not always just that. After all there are pornos where the guy tries to to see how far he can shove his member down her throat as she gags for air. Really gross ones where all the men beat off into a cup, then the women drinks about a pint of semen. Don't think it's wrong for a women to enjoy sex, but the simple act of penetration is where guys start judging them. Of course it's not hard to see why. Some woman has had sex in every hole and some guy finds out about it, he tends to put her on a lower standard if he is not dating her.

but this has nothing to do with porn..I'm talking about real life...they are very different

yeah the natural reaction to somone who sleeps around and apears to have little self worth is negatve <-and mabye theres a correlation there (just going by anecdotal evidence)

but then people can be into all kinds of things, if they want to indulge whatever then thats their thing..regardless of gender

Really isn't that different. Alot of men have shaped their opinions of women through porno. Make it a point to tell me that we don't get influenced by what we see because it is not real life. Pretty much everyone on the planet has been influenced by some other means that may not ring true in the world around them.

.....I...I don't know what to say to somebody that takes their social ques from porno.

Really don't know what to say to someone who thinks I was talking about myself. After all, read what I wrote dumbass. Many people on this site keep doing this, I didn't say I felt that way know did I smart guy?

Watch the name calling here buddy, and if you are going to claim that "Alot of men have shaped their opinions of women through porno." then you are going to need to expect that people are going to assume that you are speaking out of personal experience.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Not exactly a double standard but still sort of relevant:

You are allowed to say plenty of nice things about a person perhaps even lie (or at least stretch the truth) in their favor, but the moment you start insulting them you can be sued for libel.