Aaaaand the thread almost immediately devolved into a sub vs. dub debate that will go absolutely nowhere but in circles... yay.
As for Anime I've been watching recently...
I've started watching 'My Hero Academia' for the first time. Enjoying it so far, most of the characters are likable and I love that there's just a kid who has a bird head and in this world that's just normal so nobody brings it up. Between this show and Demon Slayer this is the first time I've cared about a Shounen series since the early days of Bleach.
I'm thinking of rewatching Log Horizon again soon since it's been announced that the third season is finally coming. Now if only we could get a third season of Spice & Wolf.
I apologize for that. I try not to let it get too far. I said my piece. For now on it's just going to be about shows I've watched. I am glad you are enjoying My Hero Academia. Demon Slayer I have yet to check out. The only characters I truly dislike our Mineta (annoying midget perv) & Bakugo. So far this show, One Punch Man, and probably Demon Slayer will be the only shounen shows that I care about. I know I stopped caring about shows in that genre since the Shaman King manga ended in 2009. What a shitty ending that was. 4 years wasted on nothing. it's one of those few cases where the anime is superior to the manga.
Aaaaand the thread almost immediately devolved into a sub vs. dub debate that will go absolutely nowhere but in circles... yay.
As for Anime I've been watching recently...
I've started watching 'My Hero Academia' for the first time. Enjoying it so far, most of the characters are likable and I love that there's just a kid who has a bird head and in this world that's just normal so nobody brings it up. Between this show and Demon Slayer this is the first time I've cared about a Shounen series since the early days of Bleach.
I'm thinking of rewatching Log Horizon again soon since it's been announced that the third season is finally coming. Now if only we could get a third season of Spice & Wolf.
Yes! They're the only two who actively drag down the experience for me so far. Mineta with the kind of out of place pervyness(in a show that mostly avoids a lot of the usual pervy tropes I've come to groan at in most Anime) and Bakugo is so far just an 80's psycho bully with no real depth. I'm only on season 2 so far with Deku meeting Gran Torino so I hope that changes, but since you said you've seen season 3 and still dislike him I guess that means he doesn't grow much.
Aaaaand the thread almost immediately devolved into a sub vs. dub debate that will go absolutely nowhere but in circles... yay.
As for Anime I've been watching recently...
I've started watching 'My Hero Academia' for the first time. Enjoying it so far, most of the characters are likable and I love that there's just a kid who has a bird head and in this world that's just normal so nobody brings it up. Between this show and Demon Slayer this is the first time I've cared about a Shounen series since the early days of Bleach.
I'm thinking of rewatching Log Horizon again soon since it's been announced that the third season is finally coming. Now if only we could get a third season of Spice & Wolf.
Yes! They're the only two who actively drag down the experience for me so far. Mineta with the kind of out of place pervyness(in a show that mostly avoids a lot of the usual pervy tropes I've come to groan at in most Anime) and Bakugo is so far just an 80's psycho bully with no real depth. I'm only on season 2 so far with Deku meeting Gran Torino so I hope that changes, but since you said you've seen season 3 and still dislike him I guess that means he doesn't grow much.
Not much, and I highly doubt he grows much in S4. Still got to get started on that. What does not help Bakugo's case is that there plenty of characters around his age or older from different shounen shows or anime that can kick his ass to the moon. He acts like he's hot shit, when really the psycho bully is not special. The main 4 from YuYu Hakusho can beat him, pick any of the JoJo protags, nearly the entire main cast of Shaman King or Bleach that are teenagers would decimate him, and the Kill La Kill cast would treat him as a joke and not a threat. These characters would turn him in to a big bottom *****.
Not entirely sure what you're referring to there, but the high fantasy parody that has the main party review prostitutes of each race in the setting. Might have been two lolis with a dildo in there somewhere, wouldn't be surprised if there was.
CoCage said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
In my experience more gets lost in translation because the dub alters the original thing, whereas subtitles go along with it. I'd rather hear the pitch, tone and timbre of the original voices too. Hearing a clearly Japanese cartoon in English or Spanish just takes me away from it. The Spanish dub cartoons in a lifeless, droning monotone that doesn't even attempt to capture the emotion of the character. And the Americans tend to overcompensate to the point everyone sounds like a tryhard (ie. Spike Spiegel).
I'll put this down to the guy using phrasing with insufficient clarity.
My take on what Johnny's trying to say is that sub-translations are different from dub-translations (i.e. dub =/= sub spoken out loud). Because of the viewer's mental processing dynamic of dubs vs subs, dubs need to make both semantic and colloquial sense in the language spoken, whereas subs have more leeway. Consequently, subs can get away with closer-to-literal translations (and add translators' notes if desired, though how much this breaks immersion is up to the individual, though translated manga, both scanlations and official releases, does this on a regular basis, sure, different medium, but point of convention still stands) that can overcome (or even outright ignore) the potential skews in spoken meter and stressed syllable count. This is especially the case in spoken archaic formal Japanese (courtly language and its ilk) that has voluminous flourishes, the majority of which don't have any equivalent in English (without coming off as being rather forced).
This is probably going to be a bad example since the language in question isn't Japanese, but it reinforces the necessarily different translation conventions of subs vs dubs. Chinese line: 臣在 (chen2 zai4). It's very common in period dramas but is supremely awkward to dub because the sub of it is: Your loyal servant attends. The dub of it, AFAIK, is 'here, my lord', but that doesn't correctly convey the semantic meaning of either character of the Chinese spoken line. The pronoun swap changes the meaning and character relationship quite severely.
On the flipside, some people who prefer subs don't concentrate on reading the sub line, they listen to the dialogue and merely look at the sub without internal vocalisation, processing the events on screen in a slightly more abstract manner which relies more on the acting and delivery than the screenplay (and translation thereof).
However, this is not to say that dubs aren't done well, but because of restrictions on dialogue line length and stress and vernaculars being translated from and to, it's more common for dubs to change the meaning of the original dialogue to preserve dynamic and pace.
EDIT: Teach me to leave this post unfinished for several hours... -_______-
Not entirely sure what you're referring to there, but the high fantasy parody that has the main party review prostitutes of each race in the setting. Might have been two lolis with a dildo in there somewhere, wouldn't be surprised if there was.
Yeah there is. I think it's episode three; the episode that made Funimation go 'Wait, let's actually not spend resources on publishing and dubbing this', eventhough they already did the first two episodes. And I don't really blame them because that show goes from 5 to 11 in between episode 2 and 3. And apparently the manga it's based on keeps it to a 5 overall.
I mean, you have two "halfling women" getting nasty with eachother, but nothing about their design indicates they're anything other than 7-year olds. And this is from a legitimate animation studio.
Yeah there is. I think it's episode three; the episode that made Funimation go 'Wait, let's actually not spend resources on publishing and dubbing this', eventhough they already did the first two episodes. And I don't really blame them because that show goes from 5 to 11 in between episode 2 and 3. And apparently the manga it's based on keeps it to a 5 overall.
I mean, you have two "halfling women" getting nasty with eachother, but nothing about their design indicates they're anything other than 7-year olds. And this is from a legitimate animation studio.
Right now I'm about halfway through a rewatch of the Toaru series. I finished the most recent season of Index, and am on season 2 of Railgun. I'm debating whether I should go onto Railgun 3... or watch Accelerator 1(haven't gotten around to it) first. I've got some time, I'm in the middle of Altered Carbon at the moment and am kind of focused on that.
Right now I'm about halfway through a rewatch of the Toaru series. I finished the most recent season of Index, and am on season 2 of Railgun. I'm debating whether I should go onto Railgun 3... or watch Accelerator 1(haven't gotten around to it) first. I've got some time, I'm in the middle of Altered Carbon at the moment and am kind of focused on that.
Finished Steins;Gate it was pretty good. Not my favorite anime ever, and I have some niggles with it, but I liked it overall. I just learned that John Titor was actually a 'real' person, and that's pretty cool.
But, I think the show really lets down it's time travel consistency in kind of a weird way.
I don't really see how the whole fated to die thing has any place in the time travel. It's just such a weird mess of some methods of time travel don't allow you to change the future, but other methods do, but they change the future in really arbitrary ways that don't actually correspond with any events. Like how does changing all the D-mails back affect Mayuri's date of death in any way? Why did sending the D-mails guarantee Mayuri's death in the first place? It's not even like she's killed by SERN every time, sometimes it's just some random accident. It's just weird. Less like science, and more like magic when fate starts getting involved like that. Also it was pretty irresponsible for Okarin to go and let everybody change the past willy-nilly like that, but I guess it's okay because he eventually had to pay the price for that.
Also, I was pretty surprised by that Kurisu/Okarin pairing at the end. It seemed like that one came out of left field after he spent most of the show obsessing about Mayuri. I guess it's a decent pairing and they have more in common than him and Mayuri, but still. One thing I didn't like was that the show was almost a harem anime in the way everybody was lusting after Okarin.
Oh, one last thing. What the heck was with Kurisu's cartoonishly evil dad? He was just so over the top, it was silly. Grrr, my daughter is smarter than me! I'm going to kill her and take credit for her paper! GWAHAHAHAHAAAA! Lame.
Now I'm wondering what the original VN was like and how it differs from the anime.
Finished Steins;Gate it was pretty good. Not my favorite anime ever, and I have some niggles with it, but I liked it overall. I just learned that John Titor was actually a 'real' person, and that's pretty cool.
But, I think the show really lets down it's time travel consistency in kind of a weird way.
I don't really see how the whole fated to die thing has any place in the time travel. It's just such a weird mess of some methods of time travel don't allow you to change the future, but other methods do, but they change the future in really arbitrary ways that don't actually correspond with any events. Like how does changing all the D-mails back affect Mayuri's date of death in any way? Why did sending the D-mails guarantee Mayuri's death in the first place? It's not even like she's killed by SERN every time, sometimes it's just some random accident. It's just weird. Less like science, and more like magic when fate starts getting involved like that. Also it was pretty irresponsible for Okarin to go and let everybody change the past willy-nilly like that, but I guess it's okay because he eventually had to pay the price for that.
Also, I was pretty surprised by that Kurisu/Okarin pairing at the end. It seemed like that one came out of left field after he spent most of the show obsessing about Mayuri. I guess it's a decent pairing and they have more in common than him and Mayuri, but still. One thing I didn't like was that the show was almost a harem anime in the way everybody was lusting after Okarin.
Oh, one last thing. What the heck was with Kurisu's cartoonishly evil dad? He was just so over the top, it was silly. Grrr, my daughter is smarter than me! I'm going to kill her and take credit for her paper! GWAHAHAHAHAAAA! Lame.
Now I'm wondering what the original VN was like and how it differs from the anime.
I pretty much avoid all time travel serious story because they always end up with massive issue with it, it's just a recipe for inconsistency, especially when people can go back at will.
As long as gratuitous violence isn't a problem, Dorohedoro is the anime of the season for me.
Chaotic, fast paced, amazing characters and design, fantastic animation, hair that is both fluffy *and* moves, two gigantic buff women, and enough positivity to give magical girls shows a run for their money. Like, it's a show about the power of friendship, but ultraviolent and set in, basically, hell.
It's an Anti Dark Magical Girl show. Instead of taking a magical girl show and saying "what if everything was dark and grim and it sucked", Q Hayashida took a dark Berserk/Fist of the North Star style world and said "hey, what if friendship and shit was super important". It's the best thing since Mob Psycho for the over 18 crowd.
Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! is pretty great, but more in an informative sense for me. Like, having weird high school girls look, act, and sound like actual weird high school girls is novel and appreciated, and the setting is both bonkers and thought out, but there's just not enough story there for me. Slice of life shows are always refreshing to watch and are a staple of entertainment, but so's water at a restaurant. Life-giving and worth a spot on the 10 list, but probably not at the top.
Season 1 of Beastars is fantastic, and if the Netflix dub previews are representative, that's going to be fantastic, but if it follows the manga...it won't be bad but it goes a bit sideways. Not sure how I feel about it yet.
Carole and Tuesday was mentioned and is fantastic. I'll never forgive Netflix for putting that one in jail. Did you know it had an English language Instagram account role playing as the girls timed to when the episodes originally aired! Me neither, because Netflix sucks ass! They suck so hard they cut the Pop Team Epic episodes in half!
Castlevania season 3 is dark as shit in the way they Warren Ellis likes going dark. Personally, I loved it. It's a transitional season though, like season 1. It's mostly setting up the stakes for season 4. It's brand-spanking new though, so I'll hold off on the rest of my thoughts.
Casual Shinji said:
SckizoBoy said:
Casual Shinji said:
You mean the one that has the two loli characters use a dildo on eachother? Yeah, that was uh... eesh Japan.
Not entirely sure what you're referring to there, but the high fantasy parody that has the main party review prostitutes of each race in the setting. Might have been two lolis with a dildo in there somewhere, wouldn't be surprised if there was.
Yeah there is. I think it's episode three; the episode that made Funimation go 'Wait, let's actually not spend resources on publishing and dubbing this', eventhough they already did the first two episodes. And I don't really blame them because that show goes from 5 to 11 in between episode 2 and 3. And apparently the manga it's based on keeps it to a 5 overall.
I mean, you have two "halfling women" getting nasty with eachother, but nothing about their design indicates they're anything other than 7-year olds. And this is from a legitimate animation studio.
Yeah, the manga is strictly in the "barely needs plastic wrap at Ye Olde Bookestore" category. The anime is a fair bit more explicit in general, and episode 3 has a solid 4 minutes of "shows everything but penetration" soft core pornography.
That it was preceded by about 15 minutes of low effort casually homo/transphobic jokes didn't help, and the anime was worse about it than the manga was.
Like, the porn part was great, the CrimxElza scene is unexpectedly wholesome (but doesn't live up to the manga), but...good premise, not a lot of effort. It's like Seton Academy and it's cool trans male character they made on accident that just ends up being the butt of low effort jokes. Both of these stories have some solid gold that they don't have the chops to exploit
Funimation probably read the manga and figured they could do that kinda of ecchi because it's about the same or even less explicit than any other light-hearted "mature" fantasy manga. It's just not what they ended up getting. If ep3 was toned down a bit, they might've kept going.
It's biggest problem, for me, is that 2/3rds of the main cast are sticks in the mud. For two dudes who're making it their life's work to reviewer how every monster is like in the sack, Stunk and Zel are remarkably inflexible. Like, they need to grab Laios from Delicious in Dungeon/Dungeon Meshi.
Marathnoed Dr. Stone's first 24 eps. in 2 sittings. Absolutely loved it. It reminds me of those old sort of educational cartoons that I watched as a kid but it weaves it into the story so expertly that it never feels like you're sitting through a lecture. Also Fujimura Kenji is knocking it out of the park with those paternal roles, he was the badass priest pops in Ao No Exorcist and now he's our cheesy astodad.
Kyrian007 said:
Right now I'm about halfway through a rewatch of the Toaru series. I finished the most recent season of Index, and am on season 2 of Railgun. I'm debating whether I should go onto Railgun 3... or watch Accelerator 1(haven't gotten around to it) first. I've got some time, I'm in the middle of Altered Carbon at the moment and am kind of focused on that.
Definitely go for accelerator before railgun 3. With toaru you wanna go in publication order because they tend to retread some of the same ground from a different perspective. It kinda assumes you've seen the previous works in places.
Drathnoxis said:
Finished Steins;Gate it was pretty good. Not my favorite anime ever, and I have some niggles with it, but I liked it overall. I just learned that John Titor was actually a 'real' person, and that's pretty cool.
But, I think the show really lets down it's time travel consistency in kind of a weird way.
I don't really see how the whole fated to die thing has any place in the time travel. It's just such a weird mess of some methods of time travel don't allow you to change the future, but other methods do, but they change the future in really arbitrary ways that don't actually correspond with any events. Like how does changing all the D-mails back affect Mayuri's date of death in any way? Why did sending the D-mails guarantee Mayuri's death in the first place? It's not even like she's killed by SERN every time, sometimes it's just some random accident. It's just weird. Less like science, and more like magic when fate starts getting involved like that. Also it was pretty irresponsible for Okarin to go and let everybody change the past willy-nilly like that, but I guess it's okay because he eventually had to pay the price for that.
Also, I was pretty surprised by that Kurisu/Okarin pairing at the end. It seemed like that one came out of left field after he spent most of the show obsessing about Mayuri. I guess it's a decent pairing and they have more in common than him and Mayuri, but still. One thing I didn't like was that the show was almost a harem anime in the way everybody was lusting after Okarin.
Oh, one last thing. What the heck was with Kurisu's cartoonishly evil dad? He was just so over the top, it was silly. Grrr, my daughter is smarter than me! I'm going to kill her and take credit for her paper! GWAHAHAHAHAAAA! Lame.
Now I'm wondering what the original VN was like and how it differs from the anime.
A lot of your concern is about the world lines. The whole "fated" thing always occurs in this one line they're stuck at so he's struggling to make some specific change to go to a different line. Why it did is so impossibly complex that it can't be explained with our language skills so we use magical terms like fate to describe it because it's trillions upon trillions of coincidences that cause it.
Though the Kurisu pairing is pretty obvious imo, the VN does have various endings but the Kurisu one is the real one (and there's that spinoff about Okabe somehow ending up in a harem world line and living it up like a dating sim protag lol) meanwhile Mayuri is more like a kid sister type character. She's an object of affection but not romantic love.
But yeah the VN is just a lot darker, has a lot of bad ends which the anime doesn't go for. There's this one super creepy part involving the tv store guy's daughter that sent chills down my spine lol. It's pretty cheap on psn and highly recommended.
Btw, you may wanna look into Zero now that you finished the base story, that's the story of the Okabe from the future that sent back help for our Okabe. He went on living in a world with a dead Kurisu and went and made an AI Kurisu out of her personality, she's adorbs lol
Finished S4 of My Hero. The show gets keeps getting better and better. The only problem with this season really is some of the comedy moments with Mineta. Luckily, they're very far few of them. With that said, fuck that shit stick.
<spoiler=Why Mineta needs to go>Hitting on a traumatized 6-year old girl, and claiming the jail bait wait is not funny. If it were almost any other anime, that boy would have his ass whipped!
As far as this little fan comic that responded to this non-funny moment, it's canon in my eyes.
Bakugo was actually tolerable this season. Still don't like the fucker. I know they're going for a redemption arc for Endeavor, but once you cross certain lines. You cannot come back from. I will never sympathize with a character like that, nor should be given redemption. If Endeavor existed in the DC, Marvel, or Spawn universe, he would be a villain. And be disgusted by the other characters of the respective universes. Even some of the villains would disgusted by Endeavor's past actions or behavior. Honestly, this has been a problem with anime recently. Taking characters that are complete scumbags and trying to make them "redeemable". Naruto being the most famous example. Shonen especially seems to have this problem. To everyone in this genre of anime or other anime, stop doing this. A majority of you are sucking at it. Scar from FMA (manga)/FMAB is more redeemable than the majority of these shit bags.
This has been my month of watching animes. Thank you Covid-19 for giving me plenty of time to watch them. I am now onto Soul Eater and that will likely be the last one I complete this month.
This has been my month of watching animes. Thank you Covid-19 for giving me plenty of time to watch them. I am now onto Soul Eater and that will likely be the last one I complete this month.
Holy cow. You've watched nearly as much anime in a month as I have in my entire life!
From your list, I really enjoyed Nichijou. Thought it was hilarious.
I've been working on getting through Soul Eater for a really long time. I got about half way through and lost interest, recently I picked it back up realized I didn't remember what the heck was going on, restarted it and have just got back to episode 30, where I left off. I like it well enough, but I feel it's unfortunate how much it plays up the fanservice. It also gets a bit silly at times, Death the Kid is particularly aggravating to watch much of the time.
Holy cow. You've watched nearly as much anime in a month as I have in my entire life!
From your list, I really enjoyed Nichijou. Thought it was hilarious.
I've been working on getting through Soul Eater for a really long time. I got about half way through and lost interest, recently I picked it back up realized I didn't remember what the heck was going on, restarted it and have just got back to episode 30, where I left off. I like it well enough, but I feel it's unfortunate how much it plays up the fanservice. It also gets a bit silly at times, Death the Kid is particularly aggravating to watch much of the time.
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