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Do ya drink, what do ya like to drink, how do ya mix your drink?


I've been enjoying myself some Banana Rum and Pecan Praline Whiskey as of late, both of which seem to do rather well in milk.

Anyone else want to talk about alcoholic stuff?
 

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Wild Turkey preferably with ginger ale. Pepsi is second. Diet is a necessary because sugar affects me more than alchohol.

I also have two kids... so drinking isnt a priority like it used to
 
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Still of the opinion that beer tastes gross so ciders are my usual choice if I'm going for a pint, a Kopparberg or Rekorderlig maybe or whatever they've got on tap. If I'm feeling wealthy I'll go for a dark rum with coke.
My personal stash is mostly stocked with mead at the moment. I adore the stuff and the Christmas markets were full of bottles of it this year
 

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I get drunk. I get hung over. Even the first couple of drinks of the night can determine the course. They were big ones.

I like to make White Russians because they're easy and cheap.
 

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I lllliked er triing dah plunnng innuh llllarng 'ooohl burghhbll whudda haaln reeeoon daffrughblllttkkrrr
 

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Cider and wine mostly. I have coeliac disease so I can't drink most beer, but I never liked it that much even before I was diagnosed, so it's no longer great loss.
 

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Vodka with lemon iced tea is my go-to, occasionally with a splash of soda water. Unless it's a social occasion, when I'll usually have a cider.
 

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I don't drink but I'd like to give some stuff a shot. You guys got any suggestions for someone that wants taste over simply getting shitfaced?
 

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Leg End said:
I don't drink but I'd like to give some stuff a shot. You guys got any suggestions for someone that wants taste over simply getting shitfaced?
Rose wine is really good if you want taste. There is also the different flavors of Seagrams.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I tend to just drink beer, my favorite type is hefeweizen.
 

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trunkage said:
I also have two kids... so drinking isnt a priority like it used to
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That's the opposite of how I envisage parenthood.
 

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Baffle2 said:
trunkage said:
I also have two kids... so drinking isnt a priority like it used to
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That's the opposite of how I envisage parenthood.
At the moment, one is waking up at 4am. Everyday. And he's not old enough to look after himself. I've never had a hangover so that's not an issue. But alcohol does make me tired and I probably shouldn't be drunk looking after a kid

Hopefully, in a few years it will be different when he can look after himself in the morning
 

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I like a virgin Rum & Coke.
The only thing virgins should be involved in is sacrifices to the Volcano Monkey God Hamamrambu.

Jokes aside, I just prefer a glass of whisky over ice. Mix drinks are great and all, but so many calories and loads of extra sugar.
Fun fact though, since I'm in culinary school currently, intoxication is an allergic reaction in your brain. The more drunk you get, closer to pass out, is your brain slowly shutting down from an allergic reaction to the chemicals in the drink. That's what a hangover is - basically the body thought it was going to die and needs to do a hard reboot.
 

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I rarely if ever drink, but when I do it's usually Baileys, which recently I was told is a ladies drink, but then I also sit down peeing.
 

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Leg End said:
I don't drink but I'd like to give some stuff a shot. You guys got any suggestions for someone that wants taste over simply getting shitfaced?
Ciders and cocktails, they always go for flavour over impact. Be care with Long Island Iced Teas though, they're deceptively strong.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I rarely if ever drink, but when I do it's usually Baileys, which recently I was told is a ladies drink, but then I also sit down peeing.
It is a ladies' drink, but a very very nice one, especially in winter. Absolutely massive number of calories though.
 

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Kinda tired of drinking, I only ever do it with close friends or when its free. I'm okay with pretty much any beer, although sometimes I prefer mule (ginger ale mixed with vodka). I pretty much drink anything but wine, it all just tastes like alcohol to me.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I rarely if ever drink, but when I do it's usually Baileys, which recently I was told is a ladies drink, but then I also sit down peeing.
Take it to the next level and sit on the urinal.
Silentpony said:
Fun fact though, since I'm in culinary school currently, intoxication is an allergic reaction in your brain. The more drunk you get, closer to pass out, is your brain slowly shutting down from an allergic reaction to the chemicals in the drink. That's what a hangover is - basically the body thought it was going to die and needs to do a hard reboot.
Just make sure you guys stay in culinary school.
 
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Leg End said:
I don't drink but I'd like to give some stuff a shot. You guys got any suggestions for someone that wants taste over simply getting shitfaced?
Wheat beer(then Porters). Ciders. Gin & tonic. Rum & coke. Mojito. White russian.

EDIT: Examples above are also things that i tend to drink. Don't care much about hard liquors other than occasional shots of vodka. Find the taste of whiskey repulsive. Wine too sour. And didn't particularly like beer either, til i discovered there are other tastes than lager.
 

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I prefer pale ale, blonde ale, golden ale and bitter, but mostly drink lager because it's cheap. (I've concluded that Amstel is the cheapest drinkable lager) Prosecco, Pimm's and lemonade, and rum and ginger beer are nice on special occasions.
 

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I used to be a rum-and-coke sort.

Started with a more coke and rum drink, then eventually you just pass the rum near the coke. By this point, I think I'm amazing, but my friends have stopped talking to me and I haven't noticed. I was regularly told, later, that the sober people usually had a bad time, and didn't enjoy it. Originally I would just scoff, and tell them they should have drank too... but not anymore.

Since my friends have made it clear that I am not welcome/appreciated when this happens, and since it always happens when I drink (I'm an a-to-z drinker: No sense getting a leeetle tipsy, in my mind), I just... stopped drinking. Been without since the day after Hallowe'en. I also stopped drinking soft drinks (because they remind me I like to drink), and stopped drinking fruit drinks like apple and orange juice, too (just thought 'why the hell not', help me lose weight).

I'm not reeeeally happy with this decision, but in tandem with the other things I've given up, I'm hoping it will help me feel better overall/lose some weight, and at least my friends have fucked off about it... even though I'm annoyed by that, too. And although I was welcomed to attend the parties again when they heard that I had stopped, the parties suck now, and I don't go to them because a: I'm sober, and b: most of them are, too... waste of time.

Still love the gang, but just play D&D with them now, every second weekend.
 

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Wine mostly. Red wine only. White wine is the devil.

I drink beer because i enjoy the taste.

My go to "get shitfaced" Drink is sambuca and rootbeer.

I literally cannot drink Gin if my life depended on it.
 

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the December King said:
I used to be a rum-and-coke sort.

Started with a more coke and rum drink, then eventually you just pass the rum near the coke. By this point, I think I'm amazing, but my friends have stopped talking to me and I haven't noticed. I was regularly told, later, that the sober people usually had a bad time, and didn't enjoy it. Originally I would just scoff, and tell them they should have drank too... but not anymore.

Since my friends have made it clear that I am not welcome/appreciated when this happens, and since it always happens when I drink (I'm an a-to-z drinker: No sense getting a leeetle tipsy, in my mind), I just... stopped drinking. Been without since the day after Hallowe'en. I also stopped drinking soft drinks (because they remind me I like to drink), and stopped drinking fruit drinks like apple and orange juice, too (just thought 'why the hell not', help me lose weight).

I'm not reeeeally happy with this decision, but in tandem with the other things I've given up, I'm hoping it will help me feel better overall/lose some weight, and at least my friends have fucked off about it... even though I'm annoyed by that, too. And although I was welcomed to attend the parties again when they heard that I had stopped, the parties suck now, and I don't go to them because a: I'm sober, and b: most of them are, too... waste of time.

Still love the gang, but just play D&D with them now, every second weekend.
Get better friends. I jest of course. Unless you're gonna do it.
 

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My poison would be whiskey. Prefer peaty Islay stuff like Laphroaig or Ardbeg, but I like a wide variety of styles and origins.

As a Belgian, I'm also legally obligated to be into beer. Favorites include Gulden Draak, Tripel Karmeliet, Vedett or Houblon Chouffe. Tho I won't pass up a nice cool Jupiler in the summer.

I don't drink much tho. Maybe 1 or 2 drinks a week.
 

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Woodford reserve and bulleit bourbon are my go to drinks. Don't like beer and don't like chickdrinks (fireball style stuff) wine haven't found one I like. They seem to be too strong or way too weak.
 

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Ah, booze, glorious booze. Rarely have I met a one I don?t like.

For hard liquors, I?m a vodka and gin guy, favoring to mix them with soda or tonic with a squeeze of lime, but I also like the occasional whisky and 7-Up. For beers, I drink it just infrequently enough that I?m a cheap date; Budweiser or Bud Light get the job done. But when I?m feeling fancy, Stella Artois, Yuengling (which has limited availability in the northeastern US) and Louisiana?s infamous Abita. I steer clear of most IPAs and anything overly-hoppy. For wine, gimme a cabernet? or any wine from the cellar.

Liquor I dislike? Most schnapps, especially cinnamon schnapps; not a fan of the sweet stuff. But the worst liquor? Jagermeister. Jesus, that shit is evil; tastes like something dredge from the very bottom of a septic tank in hell and thrice filtered through sasquatch?s pubic hair immediately following a 5 mile jog during which he was wearing plastic underwear. I think that?s why it?s generally popular with 20-something-year-old bro-dudes; along with its ?acquired? taste, recovering from the brain damage after ingesting copious amounts of it is a rite of passage.
 

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Baffle2 said:
Casual Shinji said:
I rarely if ever drink, but when I do it's usually Baileys, which recently I was told is a ladies drink, but then I also sit down peeing.
It is a ladies' drink, but a very very nice one, especially in winter. Absolutely massive number of calories though.

sneakypenguin said:
Woodford reserve and bulleit bourbon are my go to drinks. Don't like beer and don't like chickdrinks (fireball style stuff) wine haven't found one I like. They seem to be too strong or way too weak.
C?mon, tough guys; booze is gender neutral. Some of it is just more ?mature? than the rest. If you drink cream liqueurs exclusively, you?re not really trying to drink; you like sweets, which is fine. If you drink Fireball, you?re either underage or are buying a round of shots for some casual acquaintances you like slightly more than complete strangers.
 

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C?mon, tough guys; booze is gender neutral. Some of it is just more ?mature? than the rest. If you drink cream liqueurs exclusively, you?re not really trying to drink; you like sweets, which is fine. If you drink Fireball, you?re either underage or are buying a round of shots for some casual acquaintances you like slightly more than complete strangers.
I think I was pretty clear that Bailey's is more commonly drunk by women (which it is, and is also marketed as such [well, used to be, I haven't had a TV in about 5 years]), but that I also enjoy it. I tried Tia Maria the other day and it was a bit like drinking mud.
 

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Silentpony said:
Saelune said:
I like a virgin Rum & Coke.
The only thing virgins should be involved in is sacrifices to the Volcano Monkey God Hamamrambu.

Jokes aside, I just prefer a glass of whisky over ice. Mix drinks are great and all, but so many calories and loads of extra sugar.
Fun fact though, since I'm in culinary school currently, intoxication is an allergic reaction in your brain. The more drunk you get, closer to pass out, is your brain slowly shutting down from an allergic reaction to the chemicals in the drink. That's what a hangover is - basically the body thought it was going to die and needs to do a hard reboot.
Favorite brand? I used to think I hated whisky until I tried Japanese stuff. Turns out I hate the taste of peat, and now that I know that I enjoy a variety from the origin and a few abroad. Nirasaki is my favorite, with stillwater a close second.
 
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Currently six months into a detox, so no drinking for me. :(

It's ok, I'll just sit here and get an association high from your boozy anecdotes.
 

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I'm a fan of gin, rum, lager, red wine, Scotch ale, Guinness, Pernod, whiskey and, in particular, amaretto. Obviously in separate glasses.
 

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Beer and scotch mostly though I've been known to drink anything, given the right circumstances. I can appreciate a good 18 year but I also don't mind the cheap stuff. It got me through grad school. I have quite the collection of whiskeys and other exotic liquors from all around Asia that I don't really drink also. They just look pretty.

In first year, many moons ago, all I drank were vodka martinis because I thought they made me seem cool. I was wrong. Didn't get laid once.

Truthfully though, I haven't really been drinking a lot lately. I kind of got bored of going out and getting wrecked up, fun as it is. Plus I've been seeing this new woman and she's a lightweight so I can't really get drunk with her anyway because she ends up wasted while I'm still rocking a hard buzz. She got fined by the cops after creating a ruckus with a cabbie one particularly messy night not so long ago and so we both decided we should stay away from the sauce until she sorts her anger issues out.
 

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Chewster said:
In first year, many moons ago, all I drank were vodka martinis because I thought they made me seem cool. I was wrong. Didn't get laid once.
Ah, how could I forget my beloved martinis?? I won?t go as far as to say I thought they?d make me seem cool, but something about their apparent elegance in popular culture (particularly films) intrigued me. The first one I tried, I was disgusted and pretty disappointed; I hate olives and should have guessed. But the bartender offered me a Gibson martini, gin and vermouth with a cocktail onion instead of an olive; LOVED it and have loved them ever since. But back to their ?elegance,? yeah? after two, I?m pretty tanked. It?s become a joke between me and my drinking buddies; everyone sticks to their ?normal? drinks, but when I?m feeling feisty, I?ll order my Gibson. They?ve dubbed it the ?Oh Shit,? so named after the phrase invariably uttered when they see me coming with one?
 

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Ah, how could I forget my beloved martinis?? I won?t go as far as to say I thought they?d make me seem cool, but something about their apparent elegance in popular culture (particularly films) intrigued me. The first one I tried, I was disgusted and pretty disappointed; I hate olives and should have guessed. But the bartender offered me a Gibson martini, gin and vermouth with a cocktail onion instead of an olive; LOVED it and have loved them ever since. But back to their ?elegance,? yeah? after two, I?m pretty tanked. It?s become a joke between me and my drinking buddies; everyone sticks to their ?normal? drinks, but when I?m feeling feisty, I?ll order my Gibson. They?ve dubbed it the ?Oh Shit,? so named after the phrase invariably uttered when they see me coming with one?
When I was in high school, during my underage drinking days we always used to drink hard liquor because smuggling a 6-pack of tallboys was more of a nuisance than a 26 of cheap rye or vodka. I think that is where my taste for martinis came from. In first year I used to, no joke, carry a small duffel bag with my gear to house parties. It had a box of martini glasses, a shaker, bottles of vermouth, vodka and olives and I used to just mix them all night. It was super lame in retrospect but seemed cool at the time. If only I'd been smart enough to start wearing suits too but that dumb phase didn't show up until grad school.

I wonder if I'll think all the stuff I do now is stupid when I'm 40. Probably.

I still drink them now and then but usually only at cocktail bars or something. Last one I had was at an Italian restaurant in Shanghai while on vacation. It was good but the waitstaff were visibly amused that a homeless looking white guy in a Hawaiian shirt ordered such a classy cocktail. I'll have to try a Gibson next time I'm somewhere classy. Not a massive gin fan but I mean, I'm not that fussy if I'm being truly honest.
 

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I don't drink much. The occasional draft cider (Strongbow or Angry Orchard) or snakebite made with the same. I generally have a small bottle of Bombay Sapphire around (gin being the only liquor I drink anymore.) I enjoy gin with a lemon twist, a g&t, gin and ginger ale, or (one of my own creation) gin and Jones berry lemonade soda. That last one winds up being a bright enough blue I refer to it as a Nuka Quantum. And I was drinking those before Jones actually bottled some berry lemonade AS Nuka Quantum for the release of Fallout 4.
 

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IPA's predominantly... but I'm partial to a good brandy, dry wine, other ale types (Ghost Ship and Doombar being the bigger named brewery products I like best), the odd cider and whiskey. Sweet wines always seem off to me.

However, as with all things... best in moderation. Haven't gotten myself pished in many a long year now.
 

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Synthetic alcohol, though being talked about within the last year or so, was something I had about over 5 years ago now, along with some other stuff too young to be regulated into illegality that might make the average human who desires a long and healthy life scratch their long and healthy head at. Not sure why they took their time reporting on that squiffy chestnut. It's the future, like synthetic meat orchids! Ok, theoretically the future, if we don't all drown ourselves in blind, burning capitalist greed while desperately squealing it's all God's plan or some shit.

Err...other than that, spirits and wine, wine and spirits, nectars of illusion ply thy vegan fillets. Sweet dessert wine is most appreciated, though I'm certain there's something that limits the level of inebriation in them, as higher percentages do not accompany higher drunkages. Are they cutting this shit?


[small]if I were to make a synthetic alcohol brand for space, it would be called nectars of trajectors[/small]
 

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I drink, fairly regularly to excess (I'm a uni student, it's practically a given).

That being said, I don't like beer that much. Corona and some German beer aside, the beers I've tried range from "a bit too bitter" to "rancid ball sweat"[footnote]Never EVER drink Swan Draught, that shit is repulsive[/footnote]. Tequila can be pretty hit-or-miss too, one of my first experiences was with Senior Jose's Agave-flavored Petrol. Suffice to say, it took a while before I was ready to try tequila again.

If I'm just drinking at a family or semi-formal event, generally I'll go with cider or wine (red or white). Scotch and Irish Whisky are good too. I don't have any particular brand preference though.

Drinking at a party is generally the only time I have mixed drinks, usually Vodka plus something sweet. It's cheap and nice enough that I can down it without having to brace myself first. And before anyone says anything I'm a happy drunk who goes around giving everyone hugs, so I'm not really a threat to other people.

Leg End said:
I don't drink but I'd like to give some stuff a shot. You guys got any suggestions for someone that wants taste over simply getting shitfaced?
Cider is good staring drink. Most of it is sweet and no more alcoholic than beer. Definitely avoid mixed drinks though; that stuff is made for binge drinking.
 

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Chewster said:
Xprimentyl said:
Ah, how could I forget my beloved martinis?? I won?t go as far as to say I thought they?d make me seem cool, but something about their apparent elegance in popular culture (particularly films) intrigued me. The first one I tried, I was disgusted and pretty disappointed; I hate olives and should have guessed. But the bartender offered me a Gibson martini, gin and vermouth with a cocktail onion instead of an olive; LOVED it and have loved them ever since. But back to their ?elegance,? yeah? after two, I?m pretty tanked. It?s become a joke between me and my drinking buddies; everyone sticks to their ?normal? drinks, but when I?m feeling feisty, I?ll order my Gibson. They?ve dubbed it the ?Oh Shit,? so named after the phrase invariably uttered when they see me coming with one?
When I was in high school, during my underage drinking days we always used to drink hard liquor because smuggling a 6-pack of tallboys was more of a nuisance than a 26 of cheap rye or vodka. I think that is where my taste for martinis came from. In first year I used to, no joke, carry a small duffel bag with my gear to house parties. It had a box of martini glasses, a shaker, bottles of vermouth, vodka and olives and I used to just mix them all night. It was super lame in retrospect but seemed cool at the time. If only I'd been smart enough to start wearing suits too but that dumb phase didn't show up until grad school.

I wonder if I'll think all the stuff I do now is stupid when I'm 40. Probably.

I still drink them now and then but usually only at cocktail bars or something. Last one I had was at an Italian restaurant in Shanghai while on vacation. It was good but the waitstaff were visibly amused that a homeless looking white guy in a Hawaiian shirt ordered such a classy cocktail. I'll have to try a Gibson next time I'm somewhere classy. Not a massive gin fan but I mean, I'm not that fussy if I'm being truly honest.
Oh, you meant THAT kind of ?made me seem cool.? Not sure what level of cool you were shooting for, but anybody who brings booze and the tools to mix and serve at a party is pretty damned cool with me. about 17 years ago when my cousin was 19 (and I was 21,) he threw a party while his mom was out of town; my job was to supply the booze. I spent +$300 on a bunch of rot-gut crap (expecting 10 to 15 18-19 year olds, so booze was booze,) and +50 unexpected guests later, I was a friggin? hero? of a panicked, hungover 3-hour clean up job the next day. Fun fact: we thought we got away with it only to learn about 2 years ago that she?d known the whole time; neighbors ratted us out. Lolz.

I think there comes a second age of reason, at least for me it was right bout 30, where your 20s were just dumb enough to prevent your later years from getting too ridiculous, so I doubt you?ll find your ?now? relatively stupid at all. The thing to worry about is the mid-life crisis where you might dismiss your learned reason, and your future gets irrationally stupid, i.e.: with a comb-over, cracking joints and brand new Corvette you can?t afford, you?re breaking your martini gear out again to try to impress women half your age?

As for the Gibson, it?s personal preference; wont? try and sell it on you, but hope you at least don?t hate it. I?m told the right way is to drizzle the vermouth down the sides of the glass with the gin chilled, shaken and poured in last, but I prefer the vermouth chilled and shaken with the gin; I find this cuts the ?bite? of the gin a bit and it taste less like straight gin.

Kyrian007 said:
?or (one of my own creation) gin and Jones berry lemonade soda. That last one winds up being a bright enough blue I refer to it as a Nuka Quantum. And I was drinking those before Jones actually bottled some berry lemonade AS Nuka Guantum for the release of Fallout 4.
You, sir or madam, have piqued my interest with this little concoction; I shall be trying it myself, keeping the ?Nuka Quantum? designation and telling people I invented it. Wait, you?re not Stateside, are you? I was counting on a very large pond keeping you from ever being able to regularly refute ?my? ingenuity when this drink become a national phenom. MODS, please delete this and Kryian007?s original post. Thanks in advance to all involved.
 

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I'm a cider guy, mostly. Especially fond of Strongbow and Woodchuck (Ace in a close third), though Woodchuck is hard to find around here anymore. Angry Orchard is OK, but if I've fallen far enough to be drinking it the local discount grocer carries an off brand called "Wicked Apple" or some such that tastes identical to Angry Orchard and is cheaper.

Also sweeter fruit wines. My fianc? is particularly fond of a locally produces raspberry wine that I also quite enjoy. They also make a currant wine that's good but quite tart. And a peach win she likes but I think is overly sweet.
 

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Beer and red, red wine are the stuff I drink the most, occasionally cider when the desire to make a Black Velvet comes to me.

Chouffe/Achouffe are my go-to "cheap" beer, but about once a week I'll try a new microbrew. Dubbels/Trippels are historically my favourite type of beer, but I've lately fallen for New England-style IPAs.

I'm absolutely crazy for port wine, but the fact that absolutely no one I know likes it leads to me drinking it only very rarely now, usually when it's offered at restaurants. I've been thinking of getting a bottle for my place to get a glass for dessert for myself alone. Ice cider, ice wine, and honeymead are all also very palatable dessert drinks, but they're much expensive than a bottle of port.
 

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?or (one of my own creation) gin and Jones berry lemonade soda. That last one winds up being a bright enough blue I refer to it as a Nuka Quantum. And I was drinking those before Jones actually bottled some berry lemonade AS Nuka Guantum for the release of Fallout 4.
You, sir or madam, have piqued my interest with this little concoction; I shall be trying it myself, keeping the ?Nuka Quantum? designation and telling people I invented it. Wait, you?re not Stateside, are you? I was counting on a very large pond keeping you from ever being able to regularly refute ?my? ingenuity when this drink become a national phenom. MODS, please delete this and Kryian007?s original post. Thanks in advance to all involved.
I'm stateside, but in flyover country so you are probably OK. Use Bombay Sapphire, or for a slightly spicier experience Sapphire East. I'd go somewhere between 3/1 Jones to gin. Garnish with a lemon peel if you want. Its basically an easier to make... slightly sweeter Electric Lemonade.
 

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What I have to say about my booze habits is that I drank beer with my friends, almost everyone did. Sometimes I had too many beers, sometimes others did. I liked beer, I still like beer. Yes, we drank beer. My friends and I. Boys and girls. Yes, we drank beer. I liked beer. Still like beer. We drank beer.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I drank occasionally as young as 14. When I started drinking properly at 16, I started on cheap, nasty cider. By 18 I was drinking stout. I then moved more towards bitter and ale, and started drinking whisky (Scotch) in my early 20s. Gave up the whisky in my early 30s as it started giving me godawful heartburn, but around this time I was drinking a lot more wine (alongside bitters and ales, which I've continued to drink).

Thus these days generally I mostly drink bitters / ales or wines (red or white); and occasionally just about anything else - cocktails, cider, spirits, better quality lagers, etc.

I prefer traditional British bitters and ales - something like Timothy Taylor's Landlord is a great, beautifully balanced pint - compared to newer, fashionable, ultra-hopped, craft beers. And lots of traditional European beers (mostly Belgian, German and Czech) are good stuff too. Craft brews are nice to have in moderation, but they're jarring for regular consumption.

Honestly, I just don't drink much generally. I work about 45-50 hours a week and my commute takes over 5 hours a day. I'm too damn tired to drink booze, even at the weekend: I need to catch up on sleep then but alcohol screws sleep quality up.
 

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Kyrian007 said:
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?or (one of my own creation) gin and Jones berry lemonade soda. That last one winds up being a bright enough blue I refer to it as a Nuka Quantum. And I was drinking those before Jones actually bottled some berry lemonade AS Nuka Guantum for the release of Fallout 4.
You, sir or madam, have piqued my interest with this little concoction; I shall be trying it myself, keeping the ?Nuka Quantum? designation and telling people I invented it. Wait, you?re not Stateside, are you? I was counting on a very large pond keeping you from ever being able to regularly refute ?my? ingenuity when this drink become a national phenom. MODS, please delete this and Kryian007?s original post. Thanks in advance to all involved.
I'm stateside, but in flyover country so you are probably OK. Use Bombay Sapphire, or for a slightly spicier experience Sapphire East. I'd go somewhere between 3/1 Jones to gin. Garnish with a lemon peel if you want. Its basically an easier to make... slightly sweeter Electric Lemonade.
Thanks for the tips and the tacit permission to usurp your cocktail; I?ll probably give this a go this weekend! Just have to track down some Jones soda; can?t recall seeing it anywhere that I frequent, then again, I haven?t looked for it. I?ve never had an Electric Lemonade, so this?ll be all new to me.
 

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Socially I drink beer. I never got into wine. Nothing against the taste but I like my beverages cold.

On my own I occasionally fix myself a Spritz. I picked up the habit in Italy some years ago and I fucking love it.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Socially I drink beer. I never got into wine. Nothing against the taste but I like my beverages cold.
Try putting your wine in a fridge for a few hours before drinking it. ;)
 

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Unfortunately, PA's laws suck. And, the only places to buy them are in DC or NYC.

However, a good Lager (Yuengling) will always do. Especially when it's inexpensive and local.
 

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Agema said:
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Socially I drink beer. I never got into wine. Nothing against the taste but I like my beverages cold.
Try putting your wine in a fridge for a few hours before drinking it. ;)
I think red wine trastes better lukewarm.
White's good cold. I guess my "problem" with wine is a lot rides with what you're eating, whereas beer is the jack of all trades of alcohol.
 

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Bombay Saphire martini straight up with a lemon twist, hold the Vermouth.
 

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I think red wine trastes better lukewarm.

White's good cold. I guess my "problem" with wine is a lot rides with what you're eating, whereas beer is the jack of all trades of alcohol.
Maybe. But you need to pick the right beer to go with the right food just like you need to pick the right wine to go with the right food.

Unless, I guess, you're drinking soulless, multinational, mass-produced, characterless pish, in which case it's so insipid it probably would go with anything.
 

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Kyrian007 said:
I don't drink much. The occasional draft cider (Strongbow or Angry Orchard) or snakebite made with the same. I generally have a small bottle of Bombay Sapphire around (gin being the only liquor I drink anymore.) I enjoy gin with a lemon twist, a g&t, gin and ginger ale, or (one of my own creation) gin and Jones berry lemonade soda. That last one winds up being a bright enough blue I refer to it as a Nuka Quantum. And I was drinking those before Jones actually bottled some berry lemonade AS Nuka Quantum for the release of Fallout 4.
I tried your Nuka Quantum this week (with Beefeater, though, not Bombay Sapphire.) Quite tasty!
 

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Spirits: My go-to is a Bourbon and Tonic, though I'm a sucker for drink specials with no pineapple juice. I also make a mean Moscow Mule with Cock and Bull ginger beer, which is really nice on a 90+ afternoon.

Beer: I like a good Pilsner or Blonde Ale. I tend to prefer lighter, less-bitter varieties.

Cider: My taste in Cider is limited to Rose (not a fan of much else, especially sweeter ones)

Wine: Rose is my favorite, especially if I can get a sparkling rose, but I tend to prefer the drier varieties of the white wines. Not as big a fan of red (the nitrates do interesting things with my guts), but do enjoy a good glass of port when the occasion calls.
 

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Beer: I prefer either a fairly neutral lager like Stella or Grolsch, or an easy-to-drink ale like Hobgoblin. If I'm in the mood perhaps John Smith's Bitter or one or two Guinnesses. I would love to claim that I've become a beer connoisseur with age but... there's so much frankly nasty beer out there that I keep scurrying back to the comfort zone. I went to a beer festival recently and so many of the fancy-named microbrews were variations on acidic, cloudy hop-water that I left rather disillusioned. In this recent hot weather I've been loving a few lager shandies - for my money, a bog standard Foster's is the best lager for this (and not much else, sorry Aussies.)

Spirits: I've been enjoying whiskey and coke rather too much this last year and am trying to avoid having it in the house.

Cider: Drank this stuff like water for decades, I find it too sweet and sickly these days.

Wine: Nah. In a restaurant with a nice meal maybe, but never just to drink by itself.
 

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Is Hoegaarden popular in Belgium? Or is it mocked the same way Fosters is hated in Australia?

Hoegaarden is my favorite, but mostly any wheat beer will do for me.

Chimpzy said:
...Prefer peaty Islay stuff like Laphroaig...
Ah, the campfire you can drink! I bought a bottle of Lagavulin once.

Once.
 

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Definitely an islay and rye person here. Neat, or on occasion, in a chilled glass. Also more into porters and stouts than anything else, really don't like hoppy shit any more. I can't be trusted around a sixer of saison.

Funny thing is, even though I practically live in Kentucky, I have little time for bourbon. The only two brands I really like are Knob Creek and Bulleit. I'm not to be trusted around a bottle of Bulleit rye, either.
 

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Is Hoegaarden popular in Belgium? Or is it mocked the same way Fosters is hated in Australia?

Hoegaarden is my favorite, but mostly any wheat beer will do for me.
Hoegaarden is not as popular as it once was, but it's still up there. Pilsner beers like Jupiler, Stella Artois and Maes are top 3, but Hoegaarden is definitely in the top 10. Probably somewhere in the middle, spot 5-6 or something.

And no, we don't mock Hoegaarden. I don't think I've ever heard anyone do. I myself, quite like a nice, ice cold Hoegaarden. It's a perfect beer to enjoy while in good company sitting outside a bar on a sunny summer afternoon. Maybe some idiot teenagers talk trash about it because it's not good for getting shitfaced fast, but those usually wise up eventually.

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...Prefer peaty Islay stuff like Laphroaig...
Ah, the campfire you can drink! I bought a bottle of Lagavulin once.

Once.
Yeah, peaty whiskey is a love it or hate it thing. No lie there.
 

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I Feel it odd that nobody outside the UK has ever developed a good cider.

Canadian ciders are nauseatingly sweet, maybe the apples are different, maybe they overload it with sugar. Either way, I pay 30 cents extra per can.

Also, as a far more controversial opinion, people who drink beer but who do not enjoy really hoppy beer should just admit what kind of people they really are and switch to the sweet girly type drinks.
 

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Also, as a far more controversial opinion, people who drink beer but who do not enjoy really hoppy beer should just admit what kind of people they really are and switch to the sweet girly type drinks.
...the kind of people who can tell a quality beer from obnoxious hipster microbrews made by people who don't know a grain bill from a sewer bill? :p

[Riffing more on the tendency of brewers to go overboard on bittering hops to compensate for poor grains, subpar grain bills, and/or deficiencies in their process, or those who add hops too early or treat bittering hops as if they're aromatics, than I am people who like hoppy beers. No matter how bad their palates may be.]
 

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I tend to just do beer, but if I do mix drinks I like whiskey sours but oj mixed with wine and sparkling wine is good too.
 

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...the kind of people who can tell a quality beer from obnoxious hipster microbrews made by people who don't know a grain bill from a sewer bill? :p

[Riffing more on the tendency of brewers to go overboard on bittering hops to compensate for poor grains, subpar grain bills, and/or deficiencies in their process, or those who add hops too early or treat bittering hops as if they're aromatics, than I am people who like hoppy beers. No matter how bad their palates may be.]
Yeah. people who suck and are lame!
 

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I personally don't like to drink, I don't like how I feel when I get drunk I either act like a moron and feel super ashamed afterwards or I get super depressed and just start sulking & crying.

But fun fact!

The first time I ever got drunk I was alone at home and I went ahead & spammed this forum with absolute nonsense, like I think I made like 20 posts in like 2 hours & most of it was nonsense, it was funny but kinda pathetic & depressing, pretty sure I was crying at the keyboard.
 
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I personally * like to drink, I * like how I feel when I get drunk, I act like a moron and feel super ashamed afterwards.
*Edited to explain precisely why I drink! :)

OT - I've calmed down a *lot* in the last few years, but I still like the odd tipple every now and again. I cook a lot for friends and family, and dinner round at mine can entail more than a few bottles of wine before the evening draws to a close (between all of us, of course!).

Other than that I try to limit myself to the odd pint after work - but if I happen to bump into old friends from before I calmed down I can, erm, regress somewhat. Then it's a case of shooters all round and last one standing. :p
 

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I'm quite a frequent drinker, & have been to the same beer festival for the last 5 years.

Usual drinks are stout & porter, ale, gin, & fruit beer if it's hot and I can get hold of it.
 

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jademunky said:
I Feel it odd that nobody outside the UK has ever developed a good cider.
Not a fan of Swedish ciders? I tend to quite like those when I'm not going for a somerset dry
Dunno, I'll see if the liquor stores here in Canada carry Swedish imports.
 

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Craft beer or scotch/whiskey. But I'll drink just about anything, really. Big fan of sour beers recently.

Don't drink nearly as much as I used to these days though, partially because I've moved a lot and all my old hard drinking friends are gone, partially because my girlfriend is a lightweight so that means I get to take care of her if we go drink for drink and, to be honest, partially because I drank myself bored the past few years. It's just not fun any more.

I've had more than my share of drunk fuck ups, done years of hard weekends, drinking from after work until the sun started to come up on both Friday and Saturday (with Sundays left for regret) and I've gone on benders alone and it just gets so tiresome and boring after a while. I also smoke socially and so if I don't drink, I have no real urge to smoke so my desire to stay away from tobacco these days helps.

I still manage to get into it now and again though, usually when I let myself get swept up in the fun of a festival or whatever else.
 

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Ah, booze, glorious booze. Rarely have I met a one I don?t like.

For hard liquors, I?m a vodka and gin guy, favoring to mix them with soda or tonic with a squeeze of lime, but I also like the occasional whisky and 7-Up. For beers, I drink it just infrequently enough that I?m a cheap date; Budweiser or Bud Light get the job done. But when I?m feeling fancy, Stella Artois, Yuengling (which has limited availability in the northeastern US) and Louisiana?s infamous Abita. I steer clear of most IPAs and anything overly-hoppy. For wine, gimme a cabernet? or any wine from the cellar.

Liquor I dislike? Most schnapps, especially cinnamon schnapps; not a fan of the sweet stuff. But the worst liquor? Jagermeister. Jesus, that shit is evil; tastes like something dredge from the very bottom of a septic tank in hell and thrice filtered through sasquatch?s pubic hair immediately following a 5 mile jog during which he was wearing plastic underwear. I think that?s why it?s generally popular with 20-something-year-old bro-dudes; along with its ?acquired? taste, recovering from the brain damage after ingesting copious amounts of it is a rite of passage.

Agreed on the Jager. Absolutely disgusting. Might as well be drinking liquified potpourri after it?s been dipped in ever tar pool in Black Gulch and The Rotten pissed and farted out the remains of a millennia worth of fallen undead souls in it.

Myself, I?ve always been a bourbon fan and am not very picky about it, but also enjoy a few microbrews. Two Hearted is usually a go-to when out to dinner.
 
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I'm one step removed from a "casual drinker". I don't do beer, it takes like crap to me.

So, when I want a chill evening, I grab some kind of malt drink (Usually an Ice Poppers), or make a rum and coke.

My younger brother's the real connoisseur in the house, and often shares his own mixes with me when he has some. He's pretty good at knowing what mixes well.

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Yup. Mead is amazing. It's so amazingly sweet that it's incredible. I make a point to pick up a bottle every year and I try to make it last. :)

Whoever thought "hey, let's make booze out of honey" was a goddamn genius.
 

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Yup. Mead is amazing. It's so amazingly sweet that it's incredible. I make a point to pick up a bottle every year and I try to make it last. :)

Whoever thought "hey, let's make booze out of honey" was a goddamn genius.
Honestly, anyone can brew their own mead. It's dead simple, cheaper than buying the stuff, and the safest form of home brewing imaginable.
 

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Eacaraxe said:
jademunky said:
Also, as a far more controversial opinion, people who drink beer but who do not enjoy really hoppy beer should just admit what kind of people they really are and switch to the sweet girly type drinks.
...the kind of people who can tell a quality beer from obnoxious hipster microbrews made by people who don't know a grain bill from a sewer bill? :p

[Riffing more on the tendency of brewers to go overboard on bittering hops to compensate for poor grains, subpar grain bills, and/or deficiencies in their process, or those who add hops too early or treat bittering hops as if they're aromatics, than I am people who like hoppy beers. No matter how bad their palates may be.]
I've heard stories about brewers, pissed off about how popular more-bitter IPAs are, actively trying to make an excessively bitter brew just to spite those customers without taste. Apparently, they sold out of the entire batch.

But, yeah, I dislike IPAs, probably half because my dad likes them and that's what he stocked 90% in the fridge, with my other's stouts (AKA a loaf of bread in a bottle) making up the other 10%. Say what you will, I rather like the Mexican import beers.
 

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So I just need to notify everyone of this because I find it to be the funniest thing ever.

There is a Swedish drink called "Rekorderlig" that tastes exactly like something someone who has never been to the country assumes it would taste like. (Like actual Swedish Berries candy!)
 

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I've heard stories about brewers, pissed off about how popular more-bitter IPAs are, actively trying to make an excessively bitter brew just to spite those customers without taste. Apparently, they sold out of the entire batch.
The funny thing is, hopheads and hotheads are practically identical. They treat their respective "food flavor rating" as a status symbol, believing the higher you go the superior you are, but the reality is you're doing that at the exclusion of anything remotely resembling actual flavor and just doing it to say you did it. I've had those million-plus scoville hot sauces, and frankly they don't really taste like anything you'd actually eat to enjoy. Just like these nasty-ass super-hoppy beers.

What's truly funny, is when a hophead talks about IBU's and doesn't realize it's all in relation to the grain bill, specific gravity, the yeast strain used, the fermentation temperature, and the combination of bittering versus aromatic hops. Pay attention and you'll catch 'em talking up their refined palettes and expertise; they'll be sitting there drinking 60-IBU horse piss and tut-tutting people drinking porters and stouts with twice or three times the IBU's without even a hint of bitterness. The reason it tastes like you're drinking a pine cone smoothie, is because you're actually drinking horse piss with nothing to balance the bitterness, and the hops are there to mask the fact you're drinking horse piss.

That's actually the original intent behind IPA's, for chrissake. It all boiled down to making a beer that could be cheaply mass produced and survive long sea voyages to export market, to maximize profit. Hops aren't just there for flavor, they're a preservative.

Brit brewers looked at stock ales -- expensive, high-gravity, hoppy ales that were brewed with the intent of cask conditioning -- and realized the grain bill (almost all pale malted barley) was already cheap. From there, they could brew low gravity wort and replace the aromatic hops with bittering hops to make it even cheaper. Ales are already top-fermented at warm temperature, which made for a fast and cheap primary fermentation process, and thus ideal. Once out of primary fermentation, the ale would cask condition during the voyage, making for a beer with a very high rate of production and fast turnover rate.

None of that means IPA's are necessarily bad...but the prevalence of bittering hops definitely allowed brewers to produce on the cheap without drinkers being the wiser. The more important thing by far was getting their product to market, and IPA's were ideal for that end because they were so hoppy. Ironic, because IPA's got a "reputation" for quality and strength due to domestic popularity: stock ales and high-gravity ales produced in that style for domestic consumption, began being retroactively referred to as IPA's.
 

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But, yeah, I dislike IPAs, probably half because my dad likes them and that's what he stocked 90% in the fridge, with my other's stouts (AKA a loaf of bread in a bottle) making up the other 10%. Say what you will, I rather like the Mexican import beers.
Mexican beer is pretty good. Well, not so much Sol & Corona (although I sort of quite like Corona) but stuff like the Dos Equis and Modelo. I understand them having done well in the USA as the USA potentially has the worst mass-market beers in the world (although it's also always had some smaller breweries putting out better stuff, and of course did really well with the craft beer revolution more recently).
 

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I've heard stories about brewers, pissed off about how popular more-bitter IPAs are, actively trying to make an excessively bitter brew just to spite those customers without taste. Apparently, they sold out of the entire batch.
The funny thing is, hopheads and hotheads are practically identical. They treat their respective "food flavor rating" as a status symbol, believing the higher you go the superior you are, but the reality is you're doing that at the exclusion of anything remotely resembling actual flavor and just doing it to say you did it. I've had those million-plus scoville hot sauces, and frankly they don't really taste like anything you'd actually eat to enjoy. Just like these nasty-ass super-hoppy beers.

What's truly funny, is when a hophead talks about IBU's and doesn't realize it's all in relation to the grain bill, specific gravity, the yeast strain used, the fermentation temperature, and the combination of bittering versus aromatic hops. Pay attention and you'll catch 'em talking up their refined palettes and expertise; they'll be sitting there drinking 60-IBU horse piss and tut-tutting people drinking porters and stouts with twice or three times the IBU's without even a hint of bitterness. The reason it tastes like you're drinking a pine cone smoothie, is because you're actually drinking horse piss with nothing to balance the bitterness, and the hops are there to mask the fact you're drinking horse piss.

That's actually the original intent behind IPA's, for chrissake. It all boiled down to making a beer that could be cheaply mass produced and survive long sea voyages to export market, to maximize profit. Hops aren't just there for flavor, they're a preservative.

Brit brewers looked at stock ales -- expensive, high-gravity, hoppy ales that were brewed with the intent of cask conditioning -- and realized the grain bill (almost all pale malted barley) was already cheap. From there, they could brew low gravity wort and replace the aromatic hops with bittering hops to make it even cheaper. Ales are already top-fermented at warm temperature, which made for a fast and cheap primary fermentation process, and thus ideal. Once out of primary fermentation, the ale would cask condition during the voyage, making for a beer with a very high rate of production and fast turnover rate.

None of that means IPA's are necessarily bad...but the prevalence of bittering hops definitely allowed brewers to produce on the cheap without drinkers being the wiser. The more important thing by far was getting their product to market, and IPA's were ideal for that end because they were so hoppy. Ironic, because IPA's got a "reputation" for quality and strength due to domestic popularity: stock ales and high-gravity ales produced in that style for domestic consumption, began being retroactively referred to as IPA's.
Wow. That was very informative. And way better than what I would have said, which is IPAs are garbage.

This isn't to say that I don't enjoy hoppiness once in a while. I think Weihenstephaner Kristall has a good flavor of hops - within reason.

Strange to think that, when I was a kid, I remember hearing on TV or something somewhere that certain adults enjoyed beer "for the taste", which I always assumed was bullshit. C'mooooon, I remember seeing adults at parties and barbecues drinking shitty American beer by the dozen. Even as a kid I knew that adults needed some sort of escape from the everyday. But as it turns out, I do enjoy an adult beverage once in a while (every day) and for that my choice is beer. Tried everything else, I'm good with beer. And while the buzz is nice, it really does boil down to the taste for me. Not trendy (literal) garbage like IPAs, nor alcohol content by volume. I think that sort of posturing is for frat boys.

I'm a huge sugar fiend, but I don't really like soda. I like a good beer made under the oft-used schtick of being brewed by "the oldest brewery in so-and-so", AKA people using recipes (or a building) hundreds of years old. I think those Europeans might be onto something.
 

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... the USA potentially has the worst mass-market beers in the world...
Oh yeah?!? Well? our beer bellies are bigger!! YEEEEEEE-HAW!!! Amber waves, baby!! NASCAR!! Build the wall!! M.A.G.A.!!

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I had Four Loko once and it was amazing. I think it was cherry flavour or something.
HA!! Assuming (well, ?hoping? really) that you?re being facetious, my girlfriend?s brother?s girlfriend legitimately hadn?t heard of Four Loko until a few weeks ago. She showed up to our annual river trip with a half dozen of them, excited like she?d brought some new and exciting gift for us. ?Have you heard o Four Loko??? Yeah? a decade and a half ago, and it sucked then too. The only time to be excited to see Four Loko is when one washes up on the shore of the desert island you?ve been stranded on for months and you can no longer stomach the taste of your own piss.
 

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At the behest of my father (a native Panamanian,) I bought a bottle of Seco Herrarano, a Panamanian sugar cane rum. I?m not a rum expert, but it made the smoothest rum and cokes I?ve personally ever had; I had several of them without every really tasting the alcohol. Theeeeeen, I went to bed with my shoes on.
 

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Wow. That was very informative. And way better than what I would have said, which is IPAs are garbage.
No problem. IPA's, more than most other types of beer, have a really interesting history and it's cool to see how brewing methods and styles evolved out of necessity or trend. The funny thing is, traditional English IPA's -- that is to say, cask conditioned, low gravity, hoppy ales -- are actually really good, especially if the brewer takes a note from the stock ale notebook and replaces some or most of the bittering hops with aromatics since they're brewing for flavor and not preservation. They taste nothing like the crap you find nowadays marketed as IPA's, and that's in every conceivable way for the better.

It's really hard to find traditional IPA's on the market for this reason. But, funny enough, Sam Adams of all brewing companies actually made a traditional English-style IPA that was very comparable, but I'm not sure if they even make it any more. It was called latitude something. The ones they have on their website are American IPA's and not to be humored. When I actually start doing my own brewing, one of the beers I plan to do other than saisons are traditional IPA's, and I'd be absolutely willing to cask condition them for the sake of accuracy and flavor.

The thing about American lagers and pilsners, and just American macrobrews in general, is everyone loves to shit on them. It's beer snobbery 101, and everyone goes through the phase. And, yeah, if you're going to sit down to a decent dinner or are looking for a good session beer, practically anything else is preferable. But if it's hot outside and you've been busting your ass at work, doing yard work or home maintenance, or even if you're outside grilling with friends or family, nothing's going to taste better than a goddamn Budweiser, Miller, or Coors.
 

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The thing about American lagers and pilsners, and just American macrobrews in general, is everyone loves to shit on them. It's beer snobbery 101, and everyone goes through the phase. And, yeah, if you're going to sit down to a decent dinner or are looking for a good session beer, practically anything else is preferable. But if it's hot outside and you've been busting your ass at work, doing yard work or home maintenance, or even if you're outside grilling with friends or family, nothing's going to taste better than a goddamn Budweiser, Miller, or Coors.
Virtually all big mass market beers deserve to be shit on.

Sure, you've had a long, hot, busy day and you want something to quench your thirst that's alcoholic, they'll do. But the reality is that these beers either got big because they were cheap, or they got big by other means and the manufacturer started making them cheaper. A great deal of how to make a beer lager cheap is to cut corners on the things that give it taste - like the ageing time. They can say all they like that with more modern yeast varieties they only need ~20 days instead of 60+, but I don't believe a damn word of it.
 

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...or they got big by other means...
Emphasis on "other means". The major macrobreweries are what they are because they managed to remain in business during Prohibition by diversifying their product portfolio, or changing production to small beers that were still legal under the Volstead Act. Once Prohibition ended, they were in position to resume producing beer immediately and subsequently cornered the market. Ice cream and dairy were common products, but Aneuser-Busch stuck to small beers and Coors actually turned themselves into a ceramics manufacturer. I can't remember which at the moment, but one of them actually transitioned into a mail-order brewing kit manufacturer, which the Volstead Act couldn't touch which really pissed off the racists.

The history of home brewing during Prohibition is absolutely fascinating, and deserves a lot more discussion than it gets.
 

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...or they got big by other means...
Emphasis on "other means". The major macrobreweries are what they are because they managed to remain in business during Prohibition by diversifying their product portfolio, or changing production to small beers that were still legal under the Volstead Act. Once Prohibition ended, they were in position to resume producing beer immediately and subsequently cornered the market. Ice cream and dairy were common products, but Aneuser-Busch stuck to small beers and Coors actually turned themselves into a ceramics manufacturer. I can't remember which at the moment, but one of them actually transitioned into a mail-order brewing kit manufacturer, which the Volstead Act couldn't touch which really pissed off the racists.

The history of home brewing during Prohibition is absolutely fascinating, and deserves a lot more discussion than it gets.
Well, I'm thinking partly of Europe too: although I'd probably take a Heineken over a Budweiser, it's a difference of inches rather than yards. The USA is not exceptional in the sense that shite, mass-produced lagers tend to dominate the market. In the UK, for instance, you're looking at junk like Stella Artois, Carling and Fosters. Kronenberg 1664 in France is not a great beer, nor Italy's Peroni, and so on.
 

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A great deal of how to make a beer lager cheap is to cut corners on the things that give it taste - like the ageing time.
And they use rice in the brewing, which is cheaper and detracts from the flavour (IIRC, rice adds body and ABV to a beer but no real flavour, where barley would add all three but costs more). Increasing the ABV with sugar only makes a really thin beer that just doesn't feel right.
 

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Agema said:
A great deal of how to make a beer lager cheap is to cut corners on the things that give it taste - like the ageing time.
And they use rice in the brewing, which is cheaper and detracts from the flavour (IIRC, rice adds body and ABV to a beer but no real flavour, where barley would add all three but costs more). Increasing the ABV with sugar only makes a really thin beer that just doesn't feel right.
Reminds me of one of the larger craft brewers - can't remember which one. It sold out to some soulless alcohols megacorp like InBev, and the head brewer agreed to stay on as long on the promise the new manangement didn't fuck with the beers. Sure, they promised him - no interference. Couple months after the takeover, he was told to replace a load of the ingredients with cheaper alternatives and drop the brewing time... and promptly quit.

I think a lot of small and medium breweriess love their beer. Quality, tradition etc. really matters to them, and I guess that's a lot of their selling point. The big beer companies don't see beer as an enjoyable potable product for flavour, they see brands to be aggressively marketed. It's the easiest thing in the world to buy an admired beer/brewery, debase it for quick sales until its quality reputation is bust, and it doesn't really matter because they'll just buy out a new indy beer company to replace it. If you loved that beer, tough shit, it's gone and gone forever.

I suppose the upside is that there will always be new beers, plenty of variety, and look hard enough you'll find something similar. On the other hand, there are pints I love and that sell well enough to deserve survival, and I don't want them eliminated and wasted time finding a replacement just because some wanker who couldn't care less about good beer wants quick profits.
 

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...Kronenberg 1664 in France is not a great beer...
Oh wow, really? I like a Kronenbourg once in a while. When I first tried one I realized Kronenbourg tasted the way I had always imagined a beer would taste when I was a child, watching adults drink. I had no concept of beer at the time but I knew it wouldn't be sweet, nor salty. Something in-between.

I called it 'the khaki pants of beers' because it wasn't distinctive and went with everything.
 
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At the behest of my father (a native Panamanian,) I bought a bottle of Seco Herrarano, a Panamanian sugar cane rum. I?m not a rum expert, but it made the smoothest rum and cokes I?ve personally ever had; I had several of them without every really tasting the alcohol. Theeeeeen, I went to bed with my shoes on.
Always on the look out for a decent rum, have to keep on eye out. White rum or dark?
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
Xprimentyl said:
At the behest of my father (a native Panamanian,) I bought a bottle of Seco Herrarano, a Panamanian sugar cane rum. I?m not a rum expert, but it made the smoothest rum and cokes I?ve personally ever had; I had several of them without every really tasting the alcohol. Theeeeeen, I went to bed with my shoes on.
Always on the look out for a decent rum, have to keep on eye out. White rum or dark?
It's a white rum.
 

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Uncommon in my chosen profession, I'm a complete teatotaler.

I did once enjoy a nice, sweet, New York riesling.
 

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When the YouTube algorithm knows you better than most of people in your life and suggests videos that combine your love of videogames and booze.

 

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Xprimentyl said:
Ah, booze, glorious booze. Rarely have I met a one I don?t like.

For hard liquors, I?m a vodka and gin guy, favoring to mix them with soda or tonic with a squeeze of lime, but I also like the occasional whisky and 7-Up. For beers, I drink it just infrequently enough that I?m a cheap date; Budweiser or Bud Light get the job done. But when I?m feeling fancy, Stella Artois, Yuengling (which has limited availability in the northeastern US) and Louisiana?s infamous Abita. I steer clear of most IPAs and anything overly-hoppy. For wine, gimme a cabernet? or any wine from the cellar.

Liquor I dislike? Most schnapps, especially cinnamon schnapps; not a fan of the sweet stuff. But the worst liquor? Jagermeister. Jesus, that shit is evil; tastes like something dredge from the very bottom of a septic tank in hell and thrice filtered through sasquatch?s pubic hair immediately following a 5 mile jog during which he was wearing plastic underwear. I think that?s why it?s generally popular with 20-something-year-old bro-dudes; along with its ?acquired? taste, recovering from the brain damage after ingesting copious amounts of it is a rite of passage.

Agreed on the Jager. Absolutely disgusting. Might as well be drinking liquified potpourri after it?s been dipped in ever tar pool in Black Gulch and The Rotten pissed and farted out the remains of a millennia worth of fallen undead souls in it.

Myself, I?ve always been a bourbon fan and am not very picky about it, but also enjoy a few microbrews. Two Hearted is usually a go-to when out to dinner.
Oh no I absolutely love Jagermeister. To me it tastes like syrupy spice nut. A great drink in winter with a strong coffee.
 

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stroopwafel said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
Xprimentyl said:
Ah, booze, glorious booze. Rarely have I met a one I don?t like.

For hard liquors, I?m a vodka and gin guy, favoring to mix them with soda or tonic with a squeeze of lime, but I also like the occasional whisky and 7-Up. For beers, I drink it just infrequently enough that I?m a cheap date; Budweiser or Bud Light get the job done. But when I?m feeling fancy, Stella Artois, Yuengling (which has limited availability in the northeastern US) and Louisiana?s infamous Abita. I steer clear of most IPAs and anything overly-hoppy. For wine, gimme a cabernet? or any wine from the cellar.

Liquor I dislike? Most schnapps, especially cinnamon schnapps; not a fan of the sweet stuff. But the worst liquor? Jagermeister. Jesus, that shit is evil; tastes like something dredge from the very bottom of a septic tank in hell and thrice filtered through sasquatch?s pubic hair immediately following a 5 mile jog during which he was wearing plastic underwear. I think that?s why it?s generally popular with 20-something-year-old bro-dudes; along with its ?acquired? taste, recovering from the brain damage after ingesting copious amounts of it is a rite of passage.

Agreed on the Jager. Absolutely disgusting. Might as well be drinking liquified potpourri after it?s been dipped in ever tar pool in Black Gulch and The Rotten pissed and farted out the remains of a millennia worth of fallen undead souls in it.

Myself, I?ve always been a bourbon fan and am not very picky about it, but also enjoy a few microbrews. Two Hearted is usually a go-to when out to dinner.
Oh no I absolutely love Jagermeister. To me it tastes like syrupy spice nut. A great drink in winter with a strong coffee.
My utter hatred of that ?drink? stems from my first experience with it. I was in my early 20s at a crowded Mardi Gras house party, literally stuck in a corner in the kitchen because the house was so crowded. I was pounding rum and cokes when my friend came by with a full bottle of Jager and offered me a swig. I drank it and was immediately turned off by the black licorice flavor, so gave it back. Kept pounding rum and cokes, and he came back about an hour later with still a mostly full bottle because no one would drink it with him (smart folks.) Already highly intoxicated and making poor decisions, I agreed to ?help,? and proceeded to trade the bottle back and forth with him until it was empty. Shortly after, my then girlfriend decided she was ready to leave; I attempted to move for the first time in hours and soon discovered just how fucked I was. I surrendered my keys to my gf, was dragged into my car where I slumped with my head against the window for the 45 minute ride home. We were 2 minutes from home when I managed a rough arrangement of words meant to convey my urgent demand that she stop and let me ?reverse the drinking process.? She did, but by the time she could get to my side of the car and open the door, the Jager returned in glorious fashion all over my floorboard and shoes? then a Max & Erma?s parking lot? then the parking lot of our apartment? then the living room? then the bathroom? aaaaand finally the bedroom where, in tears, I prayed to God for the sweet release of death. It was years before I could even look at that green bottle without my stomach knotting.
 

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Xprimentyl said:
stroopwafel said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
Xprimentyl said:
Ah, booze, glorious booze. Rarely have I met a one I don?t like.

For hard liquors, I?m a vodka and gin guy, favoring to mix them with soda or tonic with a squeeze of lime, but I also like the occasional whisky and 7-Up. For beers, I drink it just infrequently enough that I?m a cheap date; Budweiser or Bud Light get the job done. But when I?m feeling fancy, Stella Artois, Yuengling (which has limited availability in the northeastern US) and Louisiana?s infamous Abita. I steer clear of most IPAs and anything overly-hoppy. For wine, gimme a cabernet? or any wine from the cellar.

Liquor I dislike? Most schnapps, especially cinnamon schnapps; not a fan of the sweet stuff. But the worst liquor? Jagermeister. Jesus, that shit is evil; tastes like something dredge from the very bottom of a septic tank in hell and thrice filtered through sasquatch?s pubic hair immediately following a 5 mile jog during which he was wearing plastic underwear. I think that?s why it?s generally popular with 20-something-year-old bro-dudes; along with its ?acquired? taste, recovering from the brain damage after ingesting copious amounts of it is a rite of passage.

Agreed on the Jager. Absolutely disgusting. Might as well be drinking liquified potpourri after it?s been dipped in ever tar pool in Black Gulch and The Rotten pissed and farted out the remains of a millennia worth of fallen undead souls in it.

Myself, I?ve always been a bourbon fan and am not very picky about it, but also enjoy a few microbrews. Two Hearted is usually a go-to when out to dinner.
Oh no I absolutely love Jagermeister. To me it tastes like syrupy spice nut. A great drink in winter with a strong coffee.
My utter hatred of that ?drink? stems from my first experience with it. I was in my early 20s at a crowded Mardi Gras house party, literally stuck in a corner in the kitchen because the house was so crowded. I was pounding rum and cokes when my friend came by with a full bottle of Jager and offered me a swig. I drank it and was immediately turned off by the black licorice flavor, so gave it back. Kept pounding rum and cokes, and he came back about an hour later with still a mostly full bottle because no one would drink it with him (smart folks.) Already highly intoxicated and making poor decisions, I agreed to ?help,? and proceeded to trade the bottle back and forth with him until it was empty. Shortly after, my then girlfriend decided she was ready to leave; I attempted to move for the first time in hours and soon discovered just how fucked I was. I surrendered my keys to my gf, was dragged into my car where I slumped with my head against the window for the 45 minute ride home. We were 2 minutes from home when I managed a rough arrangement of words meant to convey my urgent demand that she stop and let me ?reverse the drinking process.? She did, but by the time she could get to my side of the car and open the door, the Jager returned in glorious fashion all over my floorboard and shoes? then a Max & Erma?s parking lot? then the parking lot of our apartment? then the living room? then the bathroom? aaaaand finally the bedroom where, in tears, I prayed to God for the sweet release of death. It was years before I could even look at that green bottle without my stomach knotting.
haha yeah Jagermeister is not really a drink you should drink in excess with other drinks similarly as Sambucca that I also really like. Like I said it tastes better with a coffee. Though, I also really like it in combination with a really dark beer. Maybe you could try even if it is just to get rid of the trauma. xD
 

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Anybody heard of Screwball Peanut Butter whiskey? Wow, peanut butter-loving alcoholics, look no further; this stuff is delicious! While not absurdly so, it is on the sweet side (being a liqueur,) but it?s not syrupy like Fireball and such which is how I personally prefer my sweet boozes. It tastes EXACTLY like peanut butter, almost like Reese?s peanut butter, and as peanut butter is wont to do, it masks the whisky flavor fairly nicely for those of us who like our booze, but not necessarily straight up. I can?t find the proof, but I?d imagine it?s at least 70 if not higher as it has a definite bite at the end, but it doesn?t make you wince.

Highly recommended, and please note the date of this post, because if in a few months it becomes the next go-to drink of choice for college-aged, douchbag, frat boy date rapists everywhere like Fireball or Jagermeister, I called it first and am NOT to be counted amongst their numbers; I was drinking it BEFORE it was cool.
 

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I pretty much can't drink, since I feel absolutely awful if I have any.
Awake all night and really fatigued and headachey the next day... from ONE.


Yeah. I'll stick to water and juice.
I'm also boring.