Lightning Returns in a Shorter, More Action-Oriented Final Fantasy
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I was unaware that the existence of a game from over a decade ago has an impact on how fun this game may turn out to be. Or when I said this may be fun because it was new.Lunar Templar said:
i don't hate FF10, it just not a square game i consider a 'go to' game. its good, by and larger i think its the last decent, let alone good FF game made, it's just not a 'go to' game, like PE is (all time fave square game next to Enihander)NameIsRobertPaulson said:
The Majora's Mask clock mechanic worked quite well (MM is by far my favourite Zelda game) because you had control over the time all the time. You could fast-forward, slow down and rewind time at your leisure. Unless Lightning Returns uses a system similar to this, it won't work. Then again, I despise Lightning and the FFXIII games anyway, I almost certainly won't be getting this. I don't mind so much that they've thrown Versus XIII out of a window, but can they at least, y'know, make something that isn't this? Please? For me?
I don't like 10 because of the aesthetics, its bloody messy, real messy. Compare it to 7, 8 (which I also didn't really like) or 9 (me fave) and it just looks pants, cheap 2nd hand pants baught off a clown combined with a bright purple corset and googles... lots and lots of goolges.Lunar Templar said:
Of all the things to say about X, your major gripe is that it looks bad? That's a new one.PunkRex said:
OT: Nope, I'm out, bored now. I'm Final Fantasy'd out. Unless it's got an enormous purple talking octopus disrupting an opera. Seriously, where did all the weird funny stuff go in the franchise, I'm sick of everyone being so damn earnest all the time. Screw it, I want to race Chocobos and get turned into a pig if I talk to the wrong person!
Actually you just reminded me of something. I remember reading before XIII-2 came out that it was going to focus on the question "Is Lightning really happy?" and... Well... It certainly didn't touch on that at all.Trishbot said:
Anyways, I actually did enjoy XIII-2 quite a lot (except Academia-400AF; it's a great grinding area, but if you're actually just looking for something there encounter rate is WAAAAYYY to fricken' high... WAAAAAY too high), although it was funny looking back on XIII and realizing that XIII-2 had almost NOTHING to do with XIII except for using the same characters. Seriously, did anyone EVER mention a goddess in XIII? Because in XIII-2 people don't shut up about her.
I actually do want to know how this trilogy ends... Which is quite the shift from when I played XIII and found it to be a very very mediocre experience, but XIII-2 made me change my mind.
After completing the game AND getting the platinum Trophy I confirmed my sneaking suspicions that I might be a closet masochistDVS BSTrD said:
The battles was the ONLY interesting thing going for this game (because its 'different') and that was hardly a complement since everything else basically SUCKED
Beyond the odd weather phenomenon of Lighting striking Snow in broad daylight (rim-shot) the story was dull, over-dramatic and all of the interesting stuff I had to read in the MENU, this is not good exposition at all SquareEnix!!
And now to hear that your still trying to drag the FXIII carcass out the ditch for a THIRD TIME???
I'm at my limit here, bring out VERSUS already!!
Thank goodness that the other Tales games are getting localized at last for next year, at least I'll have something POSITIVE to look forward too in terms of JRPGS and having to bear with Western RPGs (theyre not ALL bad mind you) for sooo long, I need a change of pace
Man I miss the PS2 days....
^This.GAunderrated said:Nope. Some people are like me and like to search every square inch of a game to get the most enjoyment out of it. I don't like an arbitrary clock trying to hurry me up because the game is so impatient it can't wait for me to explore. It's why I hated dead rising 2.Fappy said:Sounds like Majora's Mask. I don't think many people will be happy to hear this news
THIS. Word for word, exactly this!
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There are good reasons for that, the main one being that they switched their world influence.PunkRex said:
1 through 6, and then 9, were all were based on traditional western medieval 'knights in shining armour, dragons, castles and princesses' types of themes. 7 and 8 tried the mix modern elements into the style.
However, this was both getting old and alienating it's home (Japanese) audience. So, when 10's development rolled around, they deliberately shifted to use traditional asian/oriental/eastern themes instead. Personally, I like 10's style. If I want sword & sorcery tales, I'll play one of the millions of other 'high-fantasy' games out there.
Also, the old games were actually kinda messy too, you just never noticed because of the graphical limitations.
I don't think they should work on another branch off from FFXIII. I don't even think they should be making another Final Fantasy game for a while. Final Fantasy 13 was a lot of problems from the entire JRPG genre rolled up into one with a few more added. Stunningly bad story, cut-scenes that drag on with little sense as to why it's there, paint-by-numbers characters, ineffectual protagonists(I'm looking at you Hope), fortune cookie style life lessons, arbitrary padding, and to top it all off, graphical fidelity over overall quality of the product. What they also added to it was the stripping of the open-world exploration that Final Fantasy was at once proud to tout.
To me, FF6 was one of the last truly good Final Fantasy games. The game had charm, it wasn't afraid to take shots at itself and the characters were overall fun or interesting to listen to. What I think they should do is shelve the franchise for a while to give themselves perspective and give more attention to the other franchises that they're just sitting on. I mean it's kind of hard to truly make a great product if they insist on forcing themselves to make another without stopping and taking a breather. Like what they say, you can't chop down a tree with a dull axe.
To me, FF6 was one of the last truly good Final Fantasy games. The game had charm, it wasn't afraid to take shots at itself and the characters were overall fun or interesting to listen to. What I think they should do is shelve the franchise for a while to give themselves perspective and give more attention to the other franchises that they're just sitting on. I mean it's kind of hard to truly make a great product if they insist on forcing themselves to make another without stopping and taking a breather. Like what they say, you can't chop down a tree with a dull axe.
I had a very strong feeling while reading the article that this game is what Versus has become. They're just not calling it that anymore. I could be wrong, though.Jack and Calumon said:
Oh, and we're gamers, we're going to be needy, sometimes it can't be helped.
Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you.loc978 said:
As mentioned in my original response, pretty much the only people I've found that actually share my opinion on the FF series have been in my own personal circle of friends. I believe you're the first person I've encountered on this site that agrees that everything past 7 was absolute crap. I still give 7 a pass, though I certainly don't think it's anything worth orgasming over. I enjoyed the story and gameplay, but failed to achieve an erection every time Sephiroth showed up.
For me, the downhill slide started at 8. The only real complaints I can draw from it are that the junction system made things ridiculously too easy, and every - single - character in that game is a raging, flaming emo. This culminates in the scene were everyone's sitting in the waiting room at Galbadia Garden (think that's what it is) and Squall is just thinking about how dead people are referred to with words like "he was" or "they were". He works himself into a frenzy about this, then suddenly shatters the silence in the room by just shouting out like a psycho "YOU'RE NOT GONNA REFER TO ME IN THE PAST TENSE!!!" before running out the door, leaving everyone standing there like "Ummmmmm.....what the fuck?"
9 was way too childish and cartoony for me. As you described it: it was nothing but pandering. I made it to the end of the first CD and never played it again. 10 held my attention while the voice acting made my ears bleed...then I got to the end and found that the only way to lose to the main boss of the game - a fucking god - is to kill your own party....TWICE! So that threw X under the bus...and thank god I only rented X-2 just because it was the first time they had a direct sequel to an FF game. Rented and took back approximately 2 hours later. Told him the game wouldn't work in my PS2 and got my money back. Haven't touched the series (other than my beloved classics) since.
So again, I just wanted to thank you for being the first person on this site to validate my views on the series. Most people around here consider FF9 to be Gospel and any insult or criticism against it is grounds for being burned at the stake...