Then neither does any other character in the series, since every character who has been reproduced in Hyrule Warriors does the same kind of shit Linkle does. Or are you seriously arguing that it's impossible for Linkle's abilities and style to be altered to reflect the kind of game she's in?loa said:There is not a single facet about her that mixes well with Zelda.
I'm arguing that zelda is better than that. Or used to be.JimB said:Then neither does any other character in the series, since every character who has been reproduced in Hyrule Warriors does the same kind of shit Linkle does. Or are you seriously arguing that it's impossible for Linkle's abilities and style to be altered to reflect the kind of game she's in?loa said:There is not a single facet about her that mixes well with Zelda.
Please be explicit, loa, because these vague portents of doom are meaningless. What exactly do you think will happen? It sounds to me as if you believe Nintendo means to create a game in which Link and all its inhabitants behave at their normal, more or less believable power levels, yet Linkle alone will be running through it like Dante in Devil May Cry. Is that your fear, or is it something else?loa said:I'm arguing that Zelda is better than that. Or used to be.
What are you on about.JimB said:Please be explicit, loa, because these vague portents of doom are meaningless. What exactly do you think will happen? It sounds to me as if you believe Nintendo means to create a game in which Link and all its inhabitants behave at their normal, more or less believable power levels, yet Linkle alone will be running through it like Dante in Devil May Cry. Is that your fear, or is it something else?loa said:I'm arguing that Zelda is better than that. Or used to be.
More like Romani, IMO.Hawki said:So, er, how does Aryll feel about this?
It kinda sounds like an interesting plot. Without Hylia's magic, they can't slow down Ganon (or whoever the overpowerful bad guy is). However, Hylia's magic sometimes isn't part of the games plot. But more importantly, Hyrule Warriors seems to have revealed the Zelda's equivalent of Marvel's multiverse. Remember we are talking about spin-offs here; they aren't necessarily canon. They just need to make sense.BiH-Kira said:Because canonically Zelda can't be male.Lupine said:Why not have a male Zelda? Sheik was Zelda's alter ego, I'd be down for a crossdressing battle prince helping to save himself disguised as a female warrior.awdrifter said:Will they make Zelda a guy (Zack?) or will they make this a yuri story?
Only the female descendants can use Hylia's magic.
Oh, for god's sake.loa said:What are you on about?JimB said:Please be explicit, loa, because these vague portents of doom are meaningless. What exactly do you think will happen? It sounds to me as if you believe Nintendo means to create a game in which Link and all its inhabitants behave at their normal, more or less believable power levels, yet Linkle alone will be running through it like Dante in Devil May Cry. Is that your fear, or is it something else?loa said:I'm arguing that Zelda is better than that. Or used to be.
Whatever Nintendo decides to add.loa said:If you take the "fast fire" away from the crossbow, then...what are we left with, exactly?
I did not say one word comparing Linkle to Midna. Please do not strawman me, loa.loa said:There is literally nothing else even remotely interesting to this character and if you think she's on the same level as, say, Midna, then I don't know what to say to you.
Nope, was being sarcastic.JimB said:In case you're being serious, I will inform you that the developers of Assassin's Creed were famously lying when they said female skins were prohibitive to code.Lightknight said:But... I remember being a kid playing Resident Evil and choosing between two characters that were not only different sexes but also had entirely different story lines... I had no idea it was a financial bust...JimB said:According to the developers of the Assassin's Creed games, yes, it is absolutely prohibitive.Lightknight said:I know this sounds like a stupid question here. But why can't we choose between either? You know, like at the start of the game you press left or right to select Link or Linkle? Is making a second skin really that difficult?
Unless I'm confusing my games, no, there was a story reason for it:Lightknight said:But despite my glibness, they weren't necessarily lying either. It just costs more money than not doing it. The opportunity cost analysis (if they did one) possibly showed that having a female protagonist as an option does not generate enough revenue to justify it.
I don't believe there was a story reason for it. I could believe cost benefit reasons. In fact, I can only assume that the "quantum clones" idea was also money based.JimB said:Unless I'm confusing my games, no, there was a story reason for it:Lightknight said:But despite my glibness, they weren't necessarily lying either. It just costs more money than not doing it. The opportunity cost analysis (if they did one) possibly showed that having a female protagonist as an option does not generate enough revenue to justify it.
All four assassins were, like, quantum clones or some shit like that; multiple versions of the same person. I dunno, I forget. It was stupid and nonsensical.
It made the lie seem stupid--why not just say there was a story reason?--but whatever.
It always makes me think of ankle, which isn't exactly an heroic name.Eri said:Could we just call her something beside Linkle? That sounds like tinkle. Not a good thing.
This is pretty much where I am. I have no problem with her beyond the fact that Linkle is about the doofiest feminization of the name they could have come up with. I agree that Link would work as a girl's name just as well as a guy's, but I can see why they would want to be able to easily distinguish between the two. I mean, okay, I can't think of a better one off the top of my head, but they could have put a it more thought into it. Link's name was supposed to refer to the fact that originally the Triforce was supposed to be electronic chips and you could use them to travel to the past and future, making them a "link" between them. So why not go back to that original meaning--connect is another word for link, so why not Conne?Lightknight said:The only problem I have here is that they're using the name "Linkle" seriously. I mean, it's their universe, why can't Link just be a gender neutral term? Or why does it have to sound like the practice of a bunch of people holding hands while tinkling in a line?
Yep, nothing you said sounds worse than Linkle. I don't really care what hoops they have to contort through to get to a real name that doesn't make a mockery of the attempt.Lilani said:This is pretty much where I am. I have no problem with her beyond the fact that Linkle is about the doofiest feminization of the name they could have come up with. I agree that Link would work as a girl's name just as well as a guy's, but I can see why they would want to be able to easily distinguish between the two. I mean, okay, I can't think of a better one off the top of my head, but they could have put a it more thought into it. Link's name was supposed to refer to the fact that originally the Triforce was supposed to be electronic chips and you could use them to travel to the past and future, making them a "link" between them. So why not go back to that original meaning--connect is another word for link, so why not Conne?Lightknight said:The only problem I have here is that they're using the name "Linkle" seriously. I mean, it's their universe, why can't Link just be a gender neutral term? Or why does it have to sound like the practice of a bunch of people holding hands while tinkling in a line?