Little Big MadWorld

[HardRockSamurai]

Yes, yes, yes! It seems the word "variety" means nothing to game developers these days. I think the PS3 and Xbox 360 are mostly to blame for this, since the sheer competitiveness between the two doesn't really allow for anything OTHER than a gritty, realistic game to be released in the catalog. Even developers with a history of cartoon-style games have been modernizing their products for this generation of video games. To illustrate:

The guys who made THIS game:

Made THIS game:

Could the answer not possibly be that they didn't want to make another cartoony game, that they wanted to try something different?

Possibly, but if they really wanted to try something different they wouldn't have made a sandbox game, set in a large city, featuring a short-brown haired protagonist.

Different to what they've done.

And none of the other sandbox protagonists I saw could throw lightning out of their hands. So there's that.

True, but how many protagonists OUTSIDE the sandbox realm can throw lightening out of their hands? (HINT: the answer is a number between "several" and "several more") Just face it, inFamous is a decent game, but it's simply a rehash of used ideas and concepts. Additionally, the whole "gritty realism" tone makes it too hard for me to consider it an "original" game. My point is; Sly Cooper = Awesome, inFamous = Meh.

 

[KDR_11k]

Wouldn't a sandbox in something like Toontown still be awesome? I'm sure toons could have some awesome sandbox activities and if it's just liberal application of pianos and anvils to bystanders.

Where the hell do you live?

Germany. We almost didn't get God of War, I have no idea why Sony revised their stance on their "family friendly policies" (or if they censored the game or something) after initially announcing it wouldn't come but at least we got that.

 

[Jenx]

And this is (among other) the reason why I stick to my old dusty PC and don't bother with consoles. No not the whole "exclusive" thing. There have been like 5-6 games in total that are console exclusive that I wanted to play. I'll live.
No what really bugs me are all of these console wars going on. All of this "har har our console is better" shit.

 

[DM.]

The Wii does need more "Rip and Tear" Games. But it has to be done right, I mean look at Manhunt 2.

THAT was something.

 

[Chipperz]

This is one of the many reasons I am a PC gamer.

It has a great deal of flexibility in gaming, and I know there are games that aren't released on the PC, but thankfully they aren't the sorts of games I'm interested in.

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

Oh my GOD I agree with Indigo_Dingo on something. Time for me to sell my PS3 and change my Fallout 3 GOTY Preorder to the 360...

Shamus, I don't think I've ever said this, but you're, like, my new god. You speak sense in a concise and well thought out manner! Bravo to you!

 

[Bat Vader]

This is one of the many reasons I am a PC gamer.

It has a great deal of flexibility in gaming, and I know there are games that aren't released on the PC, but thankfully they aren't the sorts of games I'm interested in.

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

God of War III is not out yet. PC gamers pry don't care about God of War III if they did they would have bought a PS3 instead of a PC.

 

[Andy_Panthro]

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

The Wallace and Gromit episodes spring to mind, Sims 3, Prototype, Fallout 3, The Witcher, GTA IV, the LEGO games, FEAR, Ghostbusters...

Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head, and while they may not be quite as brutal as GoW3, they're still up there. Also, plenty of family friendly games.

 

[Bat Vader]

This is one of the many reasons I am a PC gamer.

It has a great deal of flexibility in gaming, and I know there are games that aren't released on the PC, but thankfully they aren't the sorts of games I'm interested in.

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

Oh my GOD I agree with Indigo_Dingo on something. Time for me to sell my PS3 and change my Fallout 3 GOTY Preorder to the 360...

God of War III still trumps Fallout 3. Just look at the sequence where he rips a mans head off and uses it as a lantern.

To you maybe to others maybe not. Bad thing is while God of War III seems violent there is no evidence it will have good gameplay. Also, God of War III comes out on the PS3 where as Fallout 3 came out on the 360, PS3, and the PC.

In sales I have to say that Fallout 3 will trump God of War III. Like Halo is a 360 and PC exclusive but COD4 came out on PC, PS3, and 360 which gave it more sales.

 

[Bat Vader]

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

The Wallace and Gromit episodes spring to mind, Sims 3, Prototype, Fallout 3, The Witcher, GTA IV, the LEGO games, FEAR, Ghostbusters...

Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head, and while they may not be quite as brutal as GoW3, they're still up there. Also, plenty of family friendly games.

I think you're getting confused - multiplats don't count for this excercise, for some reason. Otherwise, Jordan would have brought up World at War being on the Wii, or Lego Star Wars being on the Ps3. So, down to The Sims and The Witcher. Hardly very bloody or very cute. THe way you're describing it, PC gaming itself seems more vanilla in terms of its subject matter. I mean, where's PC gamings Katamari, for example?

This is one of the many reasons I am a PC gamer.

It has a great deal of flexibility in gaming, and I know there are games that aren't released on the PC, but thankfully they aren't the sorts of games I'm interested in.

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

Oh my GOD I agree with Indigo_Dingo on something. Time for me to sell my PS3 and change my Fallout 3 GOTY Preorder to the 360...

God of War III still trumps Fallout 3. Just look at the sequence where he rips a mans head off and uses it as a lantern.

To you maybe to others maybe not. Bad thing is while God of War III seems violent there is no evidence it will have good gameplay. Also, God of War III comes out on the PS3 where as Fallout 3 came out on the 360, PS3, and the PC.

In sales I have to say that Fallout 3 will trump God of War III. Like Halo is a 360 and PC exclusive but COD4 came out on PC, PS3, and 360 which gave it more sales.

I fail to see how that is relevant in any way. I thought we all long ago recognized that the truly great games will never achieve massive sales.

And I assume you're ignoring the literal dozens of reports on N4G of journalists just back from E3 saying "HOLY SHIT MAN! GOD OF WAR III HAS FUCKING AWESOME GAMEPLAY!!!! FUCKING HELL YEAH!!! DID YOU SEE, I JUST LIT THE SKELETONS ON FIRE, AND THEN THE CENTAUR SHOWED UP AND SHIT WAS LIKE WOAH, AND THEN I JUST CUT HIM OPEN AND THEN I WAS LIKE RIDING ON THE HARPIES!!!! FUCK YEAH MAN!!" (I'm paraphrasing, obviously).

I realize that I am just putting into observation how a great game can also be hurt by sales. Psychonauts was an excellent game but because of poor sales it was barely registered on the grid.

God of War III looks good but I will form my opinion when I play it not based on gameplay videos someone else plays. Just because a game looks good does not mean it plays good.

 

[KDR_11k]

While we're engaging in some "my system has more 'mature' games than yours" dickwaggery I'll point out that the PC has games where you graphically rape underage girls. If you think that's sick and disgusting, yeah, it is. IMO so is excessive graphical violence. Why the fuck does anyone consider it a positive that his character "rips a mans head off and uses it as a lantern?" Especially in an article arguing that the HD consoles need more games that DON'T involve excessive amounts of violence?

I think you're getting confused - multiplats don't count for this excercise, for some reason. Otherwise, Jordan would have brought up World at War being on the Wii, or Lego Star Wars being on the Ps3.

No, they do count, the issue is just that they're still very few. Noone ever said the consoles have NOTHING from the other side (Amazon says there are about 50 Wii titles for sale that are rated 16 or higher), just that they have too little. I have about 20 Wii games and only 5 of them are rated 16 or higher, Disaster, Red Steel, Batallion Wars 2, Metroid Prime 3, No More Heroes, with most tending towards 16. On the 360 I have 8 games and half of them are rated 16 or higher, mostly tending towards 18 and I'm already a person who tends to pick up less violent games.

I also think downloadables should count but that still doesn't give the Wii anything with a high rating, no idea what PSN is like.

 

[Bat Vader]

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

The Wallace and Gromit episodes spring to mind, Sims 3, Prototype, Fallout 3, The Witcher, GTA IV, the LEGO games, FEAR, Ghostbusters...

Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head, and while they may not be quite as brutal as GoW3, they're still up there. Also, plenty of family friendly games.

I think you're getting confused - multiplats don't count for this excercise, for some reason. Otherwise, Jordan would have brought up World at War being on the Wii, or Lego Star Wars being on the Ps3. So, down to The Sims and The Witcher. Hardly very bloody or very cute. THe way you're describing it, PC gaming itself seems more vanilla in terms of its subject matter. I mean, where's PC gamings Katamari, for example?

This is one of the many reasons I am a PC gamer.

It has a great deal of flexibility in gaming, and I know there are games that aren't released on the PC, but thankfully they aren't the sorts of games I'm interested in.

When was the last time a good and cute game was released on the PC that wasn't Free Realms? Similarly, when was the last time the PC saw a game as brutal as God of War III?

Oh my GOD I agree with Indigo_Dingo on something. Time for me to sell my PS3 and change my Fallout 3 GOTY Preorder to the 360...

God of War III still trumps Fallout 3. Just look at the sequence where he rips a mans head off and uses it as a lantern.

To you maybe to others maybe not. Bad thing is while God of War III seems violent there is no evidence it will have good gameplay. Also, God of War III comes out on the PS3 where as Fallout 3 came out on the 360, PS3, and the PC.

In sales I have to say that Fallout 3 will trump God of War III. Like Halo is a 360 and PC exclusive but COD4 came out on PC, PS3, and 360 which gave it more sales.

I fail to see how that is relevant in any way. I thought we all long ago recognized that the truly great games will never achieve massive sales.

And I assume you're ignoring the literal dozens of reports on N4G of journalists just back from E3 saying "HOLY SHIT MAN! GOD OF WAR III HAS FUCKING AWESOME GAMEPLAY!!!! FUCKING HELL YEAH!!! DID YOU SEE, I JUST LIT THE SKELETONS ON FIRE, AND THEN THE CENTAUR SHOWED UP AND SHIT WAS LIKE WOAH, AND THEN I JUST CUT HIM OPEN AND THEN I WAS LIKE RIDING ON THE HARPIES!!!! FUCK YEAH MAN!!" (I'm paraphrasing, obviously).

I realize that I am just putting into observation how a great game can also be hurt by sales. Psychonauts was an excellent game but because of poor sales it was barely registered on the grid.

God of War III looks good but I will form my opinion when I play it not based on gameplay videos someone else plays. Just because a game looks good does not mean it plays good.

However I think we can all agree that if Dantes Inferno manages to outsell God Of War III, then we need to go and burn down EA's headquarters.

I want to read the book more so than then play the game.

 

[Ernstige Jan]

This article's a load of poop if you ask me. While Littlebigplanet is a great game, Madworld sounds like a terrible game, a meager attempt from Nintendo to appeal to the 'hardcore gamers' who probably own an Xbox or Playstation for that.
The reason there's 3 different consoles is the different games that appear on those consoles, and while Playstation and Xbox don't differ alot from eachother, I've always bought Nintendo consoles for it's Nintendo games. Seems logical, no? When I want to play Animal Crossing, Zelda, Mario or any of those, there's Nintendo. That's their identity, that's what they're good at. This article is like saying each game should have every genre put into it. That way you don't need multiple games. It's just silly.

 

[KDR_11k]

Madworld sounds like a terrible game, a meager attempt from Nintendo to appeal to the 'hardcore gamers'

Sega, actually. Nintendo wasn't in charge of that.

This article is like saying each game should have every genre put into it. That way you don't need multiple games. It's just silly.

Stuffing more into one game takes away from the rest of the game, stuffing more into a console library doesn't and makes everybody happy.

 

[Ernstige Jan]

Madworld sounds like a terrible game, a meager attempt from Nintendo to appeal to the 'hardcore gamers'

Sega, actually. Nintendo wasn't in charge of that.

This article is like saying each game should have every genre put into it. That way you don't need multiple games. It's just silly.

Stuffing more into one game takes away from the rest of the game, stuffing more into a console library doesn't and makes everybody happy.

I know it wasn't a Nintendo game but it's a Wii exlusive, meaning Nintendo's been involved with the project, probably trying to show everyone they do care about 'real gamers'.

Also, stuffing more into a game doesn't have to take away from the rest of the game. It's just how well it's been implemented. Same goes for a console library. It's cool if they just started making more games, other genres included. But that's not a very likely scenario. Nintendo wouldn't start making more games, they'd just replace their familiar Nintendo franchises with games you could also play on another console.