Lords of Atlas Fallen

[Old_Hunter_77]

Lemme see if I got my history right:

Lords of the Fallen was a 2014 soulslike from a studio called Deck13 that I think was generally well-received.
Then they made The Surge and a sequel, which are like sci-fi soulslikes? Has its fans. I never played non of these.

Now there's a new Lords of the Fallen coming out this year, but by another studio. Meanwhile Deck13 is coming out with a game next week called Atlas Fallen which is being compared to Darksiders, so a change in direction for them.

But with a crowded release season including games that take like hundreds of hours to play, these potential great games seem getting comparatively little attention. So I'm wondering if anybody's looking forward to either?

Me personally I think Atlas Fallen has potential. I'm gonna need to see reviews before I buy cause the difference between a good and frustrating combat system for me these days can be very thin. But DMC-ish action fighting with some metroidvania-ish world sounds like my kind of jam. I played 1.5 Darksiders and I dig that type of game. This one's combat has something called a "momentum" system which potentially offers a new enough addition to your standard hack 'n' slash the way posture bars did a couple years ago.

Lords of the Fallen looks hella cool I just personally am burnt out on the Souls formula.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Lords of the Fallen looks hella cool I just personally am burnt out on the Souls formula.

I'm not tired of the Souls formula, but I am tired of the Souls setting. The medieval fantasy setting for all the games has really grown old and I would love to see that Souls gameplay get applied to a new setting. That's why Bloodborne stands out, because the setting is so different. Games like the Surge had potential to scratch the itch but Deck13 doesn't quite understand what to do with those games, there is an ingredient they are missing that keeps their games from being really great.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

I'm not tired of the Souls formula, but I am tired of the Souls setting. The medieval fantasy setting for all the games has really grown old and I would love to see that Souls gameplay get applied to a new setting. That's why Bloodborne stands out, because the setting is so different. Games like the Surge had potential to scratch the itch but Deck13 doesn't quite understand what to do with those games, there is an ingredient they are missing that keeps their games from being really great.

You gonna play Lies of P?

 

[CriticalGaming]

You gonna play Lies of P?

Nope. I thought the demo was mid.

 

[sXeth]

Its hanging around on my maybe list, though the video preview I saw of it (think it was SkillUp) mentioned it feels more then a little janky/clunky. Which is not something you want in your action game.

 

[BrawlMan]

Its hanging around on my maybe list, though the video preview I saw of it (think it was SkillUp) mentioned it feels more then a little janky/clunky. Which is not something you want in your action game.

I don't mind a little jank, as long as it doesn't interfere with the gameplay too much, but I fully agree with you. Oneechanbara Z2 & Origin are some of the best action games around with a few hilarious jank moments.

But DMC-ish action fighting with some metroidvania-ish world sounds like my kind of jam. I played 1.5 Darksiders and I dig that type of game. This one's combat has something called a "momentum" system which potentially offers a new enough addition to your standard hack 'n' slash the way posture bars did a couple years ago.

Your play Castlevania: Lords of shadow 2? That's basically what you described. I would recommend it to you, but it has those awful stealth sections. Darksiders IIi is pretty much a metroidvania. The first two games are more so Soul Reaver and Zelda clones in terms of level, world, and dungeon design. Especially the first game.

Nope. I thought the demo was mid.

LIES! The filthy Final Fantasy Fanboi lies!

 

[CriticalGaming]

LIES! The filthy Final Fantasy Fanboi lies!

Of P?

 

[BrawlMan]

Of P?

Lies of a CCCCCCC!!!!! (Echo)

 

[sXeth]

Its hanging around on my maybe list, though the video preview I saw of it (think it was SkillUp) mentioned it feels more then a little janky/clunky. Which is not something you want in your action game.

Found it, btw. So yeah, performance issues (which could potentially be better), some unspecified issue with the melee. A lot of kind of generic/bland open world presentation and nothingburger story. With some cool traversal and interesting (aside from frame drops and whatever the unspecified melee jank is)

Seems kind of like it might fall into the Dragons Dogma area, good combat, but just kind of spotted amidst an open world RPG that can't really hit the mark for that.

 

[meiam]

I'm mostly worried about it being just another open world with things to find on the map already being marked and so exploration being essentially non existent. Genshin impact really spoiled me here with almost nothing being marked on the map for you, making exploration feel meaningful, the two system obviously can't be compared side by side, but I'm just tired of the AC formula of just going down a set of checklist. I can't remember seeing a view of the game map screen so that makes me worried (pstt people doing video preview, take like 5 seconds to open the menu and flip trough all the screens available, you don't even need to comment or hold on them, we can pause the video, it takes almost no time and instantly make your video 3-4 time more informative).

 

[BrawlMan]

I can't remember seeing a view of the game map screen so that makes me worried (pstt people doing video preview, take like 5 seconds to open the menu and flip trough all the screens available, you don't even need to comment or hold on them, we can pause the video, it takes almost no time and instantly make your video 3-4 time more informative).

Menus don't get enough clicks and likes!

As long as there's not too much jank, and the markers I can give or take, but I am more focused on the combat. Hopefully, it won't be a big empty world, and I rather have a small open world, or a hub area with several worlds/zones. Those are fine by me.

2023 is packed.

 

[CriticalGaming]

2023 is packed.

That 2023 review thread made me realize just how much stuff was coming out this year. It is wild how much content for such a wide audience of people is all hitting in a single year. I dont think there has been a year this packed since 2017ish.

 

[BrawlMan]

That 2023 review thread made me realize just how much stuff was coming out this year. It is wild how much content for such a wide audience of people is all hitting in a single year. I dont think there has been a year this packed since 2017ish.

I know I won't be able to play all of them, but I am only going after the games I know I am going to play. Spider-Man 2 is going to have to wait, because Alan Wake II comes out around the same week.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Found it, btw. So yeah, performance issues (which could potentially be better), some unspecified issue with the melee. A lot of kind of generic/bland open world presentation and nothingburger story. With some cool traversal and interesting (aside from frame drops and whatever the unspecified melee jank is)

Seems kind of like it might fall into the Dragons Dogma area, good combat, but just kind of spotted amidst an open world RPG that can't really hit the mark for that.

You I did watch this video when it came out, but at the time I really wasn't that interested in the game so I kind of forgot about it. My recent interest is largely due to my losing interest in other upcoming games.

I think there has been time to fix any jank issues. Yes I'm being hopeful but I will absolutely wait for reviews from knowledgeable reviewers first. I absolutely do NOT want a janky new game.

 

[sXeth]

You I did watch this video when it came out, but at the time I really wasn't that interested in the game so I kind of forgot about it. My recent interest is largely due to my losing interest in other upcoming games.

I think there has been time to fix any jank issues. Yes I'm being hopeful but I will absolutely wait for reviews from knowledgeable reviewers first. I absolutely do NOT want a janky new game.

Yeah, the thing there is, I played LotF, Surge, and Surge 2. And they didn't really get out of the ambitious but clunky stage until the 3rd one there.

So I have a similar level of skepticism with them a) trying to take on a whole new style, b) trying to AAA it up with an open world now

 

[meiam]

Yeah, the thing there is, I played LotF, Surge, and Surge 2. And they didn't really get out of the ambitious but clunky stage until the 3rd one there.

So I have a similar level of skepticism with them a) trying to take on a whole new style, b) trying to AAA it up with an open world now

None of them are really perfect for me, as you said they moved away from the janxness with surge 2, but at the same time it became more generic. But at the same time none of them were terrible so I have no reason not to be interested at least. I did finish all of them so I'll probably play this one too, but probably only after a discount.

 

[BrawlMan]

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Lords of the Fallen sure is a Soulslike video game

If Elden Ring wasn’t close enough to Dark Souls for you, CI Games has just the thing

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[Old_Hunter_77]

Yeah Lords of the Fallen is definitely something i’m not interested in actually playing, more curious if anyone else here does.

Kinda funny that we’re getting two Soulsbornalikes so close together (Lies of P being the other one)

 

[BrawlMan]

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[Cheetodust]

I don't mind a little jank, as long as it doesn't interfere with the gameplay too much, but I fully agree with you. Oneechanbara Z2 & Origin are some of the best action games around with a few hilarious jank moments.


Your play Castlevania: Lords of shadow 2? That's basically what you described. I would recommend it to you, but it has those awful stealth sections. Darksiders IIi is pretty much a metroidvania. The first two games are more so Soul Reaver and Zelda clones in terms of level, world, and dungeon design. Especially the first game.


LIES! The filthy Final Fantasy Fanboi lies!

Nah. I'm with Critical on this one. And I love bloodborne. I have a hunters marl tattoo on my forearm. Lies of P feels like a "we have bloodborne at home" meme.