LulzSec hacked by Team Posion

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Tdc2182

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xeed said:
2. sharing all resources and knowledge allows maximum cooperative efficiency
But holding knowledge and resources mean that you now have something that others want to gain, meaning others would want a price for.
3. creating an abundance of all our needs makes money, gov, crime obsolete
Well, now you have an abundance of all our needs. A criminal gets a hold of of something, he now has a bargaining point. This is a vicious cycle that can be repeated.
4. automating the production distribution, frees up humanity to no longer be wage slaves to governments or corporations
That's true Marxism(unless I am mistaking what you are saying, which is likely), and that only works when everyone can come to terms with humanities flaws, which won't happen.
These four points would be recognized by direct democracy that is connected by the internet; 99% of the world's problems would quickly evaporate.
And then Hell freezes over.

I'm sorry, but these points all rely on people becoming... well, robots who cannot commit a crime. It's a fairy tale.
 

Hristo Tzonkov

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A real underground hacking team doesn't publically announce shit like this.If they don't post pics or something I'll lol quite a lot.Go Lulzboat!
 

xeed

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But holding knowledge and resources mean that you now have something that others want to gain, meaning others would want a price for.
Why would others want to gain the knowledge and resources you have if they have access to it themselves, free of charge?

Well, now you have an abundance of all our needs. A criminal gets a hold of of something, he now has a bargaining point. This is a vicious cycle that can be repeated.
Again, why would anyone try to get a hold of something they already have? Even if someone did go on a stealing spree that would probably be highly uncommon and the person in question is probably mentally ill.

That's true Marxism(unless I am mistaking what you are saying, which is likely), and that only works when everyone can come to terms with humanities flaws, which won't happen.
Marxism is the advocacy of the means of production being controlled by the "working class" (the dictatorial "working class" party). It functions within a monetary system. Libertarian socialism is a far cry from Marxism.

And then Hell freezes over.

I'm sorry, but these points all rely on people becoming... well, robots who cannot commit a crime. It's a fairy tale.
No. This system would free human beings in almost every way imaginable.
 

Hristo Tzonkov

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Meeelvin said:
Yes this is the 1902843102th time lulzsec got pwned and its definitely legit because something must make losers feel better about themselves and whats best than hearing that someone that is better than them(l33t haxor skillz lul u dont haz) get pwned....

humans in order to feel better about their sad self (through comparison)they will degrade everyone who is against them and/or hurts them. They will nitpick everything they can find, they are gonna attack him for his area of residence to his "gramer" and ethics

For that simple reason, i support lulzsec. because ppl like them shouldnt exist and lulzsec shouldnt even be a problem to care about. But if they get annoyed by something they shouldnt even care they deserve to suffer as much as the greedy companies they target
That's an extremely backwards opinion you have there.

I think you don't understand why exactly people hate them. For one, they destroyed a bunch of gamers hobby for a good month, and the reason they presented was completely weak. Sure, they attack greedy companies. But by comparison, the companies they attack only end up truly hurting the consumer.

I don't give two fucks that I can't hack, and I have no intention of ever doing so or caring to do so. Plus, there is no need to degrade them. Someone who ruins my entertainment (though admittedly, I don't own a PS3) purely for "the lulz" is a complete assbag. It's barely even an opinion.

Why should we not care about it? If my swimming pool was closed down because a group of kids kept dumping poisonous chemicals in it for fun, I have every damn right to be pissed at them. If something you loved to do in your downtime was destroyed, you'd most likely whine more than the people on here. I'm sure if I took the time to look through your posts I could find something you bitched about.

Your point is completely moot.
You do know that a group that publically announces everything they do would probably say that they hacked the PS3.Someone did it to steal credit cards,not for the lulz.
 

Lightning Delight

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Bwahahahahaha!!! Revenge! I bet they aren't laughing now!

On the other hand, this may very well start some sort of hacking war. Everyone, safety helmets on.
 

Vangaurd227

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Ladys and gentlementalmen! Place yer bets right here!right now! who will win?.......hopefully team poison :D
 

Tdc2182

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Hristo Tzonkov said:
You do know that a group that publically announces everything they do would probably say that they hacked the PS3.Someone did it to steal credit cards,not for the lulz.
No, I do not know that because it's not true.

Seeing how they publicly announce almost everything they do (including hacking the PS3) before hand, I think it's safe to assume that they are the actual hackers that did actually steal the credit card information.

They did it because they can. Which is pretty much what they mean by "lulz".

Anything else unintelligent you want to say?
 

marurder

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The best thing governments can do now is say nothing and try not to get involved in any way. Let the internet communities duke it out.
 

xeed

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Knight Templar said:
xeed said:
No. This system would free human beings in almost every way imaginable.
Except for the minor issue that it can't be done, sure.
Why don't you think it can be done?

Greeks, Arabs and Spaniards are currently fighting hard to remove their governments and replace them with libertarian socialist ideals.
 

RaNDM G

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I don't even care any more. Hackers have been getting too much publicity lately.
 

triggrhappy94

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Does anyone else feel like we're trading one evil for another.

.... or maybe they just want us to chase them, because their the hackers we need, but not the ones we want?!
 

HentMas

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i just got this googling for information

http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1099964-Lulzsec-is-sunk.-The-end-is-around-the-corner.?s=0ba2b7c0b0b9906dc2420bbebf8e2b89

it shows the conversation within lulzsec and the desperate attempt to... you know, deny this attacks

also shows what Lulzsec is really about

just read it, its eye opening at best and completely harmless at worst
 

Aesir23

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Well, we'll see what will happen in the future. But for now, I really like this "Team Poison". Hopefully, they'll be able to crush Lulzsec...and not become the next Lulzsec immediately afterwards.
 

Twilight_guy

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Hum Lulzsec should be worried. If the CIA gets this information then there are few places on Earth where the law won't be able to get them. Of course the question we should really ask ourselfs is if Lulzsec [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman"]are true Scotsmen[/a]?
 

Alar

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If this is legit, this sounds pretty awesome. LulzSec is getting pretty annoying.