LulzSec hacked by Team Posion

[-Dragmire-]

The two man group warned LulzSec that they would take action and that they had 48 hours to secure their IRCs. Apparently LulzSec took it as an empty threat, laughed at the group and was then hacked.

The irony, it is delicious.

 

[Goofguy]

Hopefully this doesn't start to blow up in to some sort of battle for supremacy...

 

[Quantum Star]

Oh, the delicious irony.

 

[Jailbird408]

Hackers strong enough to hack hackers capable of hacking out CIA secrets could probably topple western civilisation. Stack up on tinned beans and prepare the bomb shelters.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Team Poisen= internet superheros.

that my friends. is how you send an ultimatum with a great follow up.

if only the actual CSA would do that.

also, i'm sure lulsec are just some 13 year olds that spend too much time on ED.

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

I highly doubt this is legitimate.

Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.

A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.

Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.

Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?

OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec

No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.

I read to "...with direct democracy..." after that I stopped and wrote this with all credibility you ever had in my mind vanishing.

Every democracy no matter how pure has always devolved into a hierarchy and then into a tyranny. Just look at the Greeks, the shinning example of democracy for their time and look what happened. Julies Ceaser. Lacking a government isn't the answer, by the way you portray it you're being highly contradictory seeing as a democracy is a form of government. The best on paper is communism but the best in actual effect is a republic with electorates elected by the people and what not that listen to the people who voted them in and thus vote in their favor. Your system of thinking that no government = best is extremely flawed because every social gathering of people in any society has a system of government. Enough of that though.

OT: I just wish that it didn't have to come to this and for all intensive purposes lets assume that team poison goes rogue like lulzsec. What is to happen then?

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Finally! It's about time someone attacked Lulzsec.

Lets see how you like it you fucking cunts.

God I hope this is true.

 

[Sentox6]

Moral of the story? Hackers are bad. All of them. Even the white hats, because without hackers, we wouldn't NEED white hats.

How in the world does that actually make white hats bad?

 

[Hristo Tzonkov]

You do know that a group that publically announces everything they do would probably say that they hacked the PS3.Someone did it to steal credit cards,not for the lulz.

No, I do not know that because it's not true.

Seeing how they publicly announce almost everything they do (including hacking the PS3) before hand, I think it's safe to assume that they are the actual hackers that did actually steal the credit card information.

They did it because they can. Which is pretty much what they mean by "lulz".

Anything else unintelligent you want to say?

There was no pre-announcement of Lulzsec hacking PS3 whatsoever.There was a post announcement by Sony that Anonymous did the hacking which I also have problems believing knowing Anon's previous history.Lulzsec steals data but not money,it's just how they roll.Any other unintelligent and unchecked things you want to mention.I think we understood you're all anti-hacker from this thread alone.There's no need to further reinforce your points unless you're going out of your way to show how stupid and silly you are.

Good day to ye,good sir!

 

[xeed]

Every democracy no matter how pure has always devolved into a hierarchy and then into a tyranny. Just look at the Greeks, the shinning example of democracy for their time and look what happened.

...please tell me you meant to say the Romans...

The way to prevent democracy from devolving into hierarchy and tyranny, is to have a constitutional document that explicitly forbids, under threat of justice, any infraction of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and everything that implies; not interpreted by a bunch of shady, lobbyist run lawyers in legislative positions, but by a judicial system that has checks and balances.

Lacking a government isn't the answer, by the way you portray it you're being highly contradictory seeing as a democracy is a form of government.

Direct democracy is the will of the people on how to act on certain issues, and as it's the peoples' choice they are not being "governed".

The best on paper is communism but the best in actual effect is a republic with electorates elected by the people and what not that listen to the people who voted them in and thus vote in their favor. Your system of thinking that no government = best is extremely flawed because every social gathering of people in any society has a system of government. Enough of that though.

Communism is terrible on paper. It deals with labor in an age where technology increasingly displaces labor. A republic with electorates is NOT elected "by the people", that is pure fantasy. It is elected by the MONEY.

I do not think "no government" is best but I do believe that it is a necessary step for us to eliminate our current system in order to evolve naturally to what will benefit the commonwealth, eg the most good for the most people.

 

[fundayz]

I think people missed the fact that TEAMPOISON IS NOT AGAINST WHAT LULZSEC DOES. They are basically bashing for Lulzsec for being script kiddies pretending to be hackers (according to them).

 

[Canid117]

So Lulzsec is just a couple of script kiddies? Not really a surprise.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Every democracy no matter how pure has always devolved into a hierarchy and then into a tyranny. Just look at the Greeks, the shinning example of democracy for their time and look what happened.

...please tell me you meant to say the Romans...

The way to prevent democracy from devolving into hierarchy and tyranny, is to have a constitutional document that explicitly forbids, under threat of justice, any infraction of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and everything that implies; not interpreted by a bunch of shady, lobbyist run lawyers in legislative positions, but by a judicial system that has checks and balances.

Lacking a government isn't the answer, by the way you portray it you're being highly contradictory seeing as a democracy is a form of government.

Direct democracy is the will of the people on how to act on certain issues, and as it's the peoples' choice they are not being "governed".

The best on paper is communism but the best in actual effect is a republic with electorates elected by the people and what not that listen to the people who voted them in and thus vote in their favor. Your system of thinking that no government = best is extremely flawed because every social gathering of people in any society has a system of government. Enough of that though.

Communism is terrible on paper. It deals with labor in an age where technology increasingly displaces labor. A republic with electorates is NOT elected "by the people", that is pure fantasy. It is elected by the MONEY.

I do not think "no government" is best but I do believe that it is a necessary step for us to eliminate our current system in order to evolve naturally to what will benefit the commonwealth, eg the most good for the most people.

You may want to take this to the R&P section of the site if you feel so strongly about it. Also, you may want to quote people by hitting the quote button so they know that you responded to them.

OT: Hackers man. Why do they exist?

 

[Vanbael]

I support Team Poison for being awesome and standing up for the majority of the internet that is in it for the Porn, pictures of cats, and more porn.

 

[Thumper17]

Finally, the group claims that they will release photos and names of the members to the public.

Come on poison.

 

[loststar111]

Have you been through the hood lately, anarchy pretty much reigns there. All flowers and roses there let me tell you. Stop with the fairy tales of human cooperation and loving energy. If you want to change the world that's fine but consider your resources. If you have potatoes then there's a list of products you can make with them, if you have lemons then there's another limited list of products. Humanity is the resource we have to work with and one characteristic it's proven time and time again is that it's entirely unreliable and unworkable en masse.

 

[Sovvolf]

You may want to take this to the R&P section of the site if you feel so strongly about it. Also, you may want to quote people by hitting the quote button so they know that you responded to them.

OT: Hackers man. Why do they exist?

q: mad
a: you

Actually he's right. I know you feel strongly about this however whatever your original argument was it seems to have gotten lost and is now greatly off-topic. Might be best to move it to its own thread. Discuss it there, here its starting to derail the topic at hand.

 

[MrGalactus]

I want this to happen because hackers that target things like PSN and cost comapanies millions of dollars and attack organisations like the CIA (who keep information a secret for a reason) should get lost.

I think LulzSec should fuck off because they release the personal information of private citizens who have done no wrong. I don't care how much money they cost a huge exploitative corporation, and revealing secret CIA info is a good thing. If the CIA are doing something they feel they need to keep secret, that means it's something the public would probably not want them doing.

 

[The Lugz]

well, if nothing else it will distract them for a bit so company's an get their Cthulhu tentacle security in place ( the only thing that will stop hackers, just so you know. )

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Good.

Hopefully they'll find the actual people behind the computers, arrest them, and the arrogant little dickheads can begin to undertsand that even in their sheltered entitled middle class existences sometimes their actions must have consequences.

I love seeing bad men get what they deserve, and even more than that I love seeing idiots who thought that their massive entitlement complexes make up for bullying get what they deserve.