Lulzsec Hacks Bethesda

[Scabadus]

I'm glad they've at least got the decency to not punish the customers, or at least not all of them. Not sure what they'll do with the rest of the data. I have noticed that a few Bethesda related sites have been offline for the last 24 hours or so, I wonder if that means that the servers were taken offline to protect the data.

Still, I'm looking forward to when these guys get caught. That is going to be lulz I get from them.

(Incidentally, I don't know much about hacking but shouldn't tracing them be easy? Lulzsec has claimed that they run off of one server, shouldn't Bethesda just have to check what IP attacked them, run a quick search to find out what company leases that unique number out, then hand it over to the authorities who will ask the IP company which connection was assigned that IP at that time? I'm assuming it's a little more complicated than that, but isn't that the basics?)

 

[T8B95]

Bethesda got off lightly because LulzSec aren't acutally extremely competent hackers. Surprise surprise.

The more places they visit, the sooner the law catches up. Personally, I'm excited to see these arrogant idiots have their souls crushed by the law.

Souls, hopefully followed by something painful. Like fingers, or testicles.

How about LulzSec just fucks off, okay? They're doing far more harm than good.

 

[mechanixis]

Hackers are like kids with guns. Anonymous is what happens when they try use that power to be Batman, but LulzSec is what happens when they try to be the Joker, which is even worse.

Can we start arresting these kind of people yet?

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Nothing more then Huge Manchildren.

Nothing to see folks, carried on.

 

[barbzilla]

Really starting to get old with the hacking of video game companies. It doesn't help the gaming community at all. What is happening is people are scared to sign up for games or websites because of these hacks and it is going to kill off profit margins and leave us in an endless cycle of loss of money = loss of new IPs and ideas. No good all around lulzsec. If you really want to help the gaming community focus on something else for a while.

 

[lovest harding]

If they're such fans, why bother?

Given that this "attack" didn't do much in actual damage, I would say that the goal of this attack was to alert Bethesda to the problems with their security, and based on Bethesda's response ("These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.") they actually get the point.

If you're going to give what amounts to a friendly, if rude, reminder of security problems, would you rather it benefit a company you like? or one you hate?

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

 

[Nurb]

Well at least no personal info or games were taken... so this would fall under prank I'd think.

Either way, these companies are DEFINATELY going to be double-checking their security

 

[Chase Yojimbo]

I wish Anon would hack their asses already.

Actually I agree with you. This is going against the ideals of Anon, for he is doing nothing but taking away the freedoms of other people. Anon has every right to step in and take this little fucker out.

 

[DEAD34345]

If they're such fans, why bother? Seriously, there's bigger fish to fry if they're trying to raise awareness of online security or something like that. This seems kinda like a waste of time to me.

This is Lulzsec, everything they do is a "waste of time". They're not the same as Anonymous, and they're not activists of any kind. They just do things for the "Lulz". It's pretty much a coincidence that their "Lulz" raises awareness for online security.

 

[barbzilla]

I'm glad they've at least got the decency to not punish the customers, or at least not all of them. Not sure what they'll do with the rest of the data. I have noticed that a few Bethesda related sites have been offline for the last 24 hours or so, I wonder if that means that the servers were taken offline to protect the data.

Still, I'm looking forward to when these guys get caught. That is going to be lulz I get from them.

(Incidentally, I don't know much about hacking but shouldn't tracing them be easy? Lulzsec has claimed that they run off of one server, shouldn't Bethesda just have to check what IP attacked them, run a quick search to find out what company leases that unique number out, then hand it over to the authorities who will ask the IP company which connection was assigned that IP at that time? I'm assuming it's a little more complicated than that, but isn't that the basics?)

The problem is they probably bounce the IP so many times it takes a while to trace it down, and when they do it will most likely not be their network as hackers tend to use other peoples networks or free networks when they can. I really don't care if they get caught as long as this idiocy stops.

Sorry for double posting my quoting skills need improving

 

[Life_Is_A_Mess]

Seriously Lulz Boat, seriously? Why would they do that? If it's just for show or if they think their Anon, they should sod off. What has Bethesda done wrong? I only approve hacking if it's for the greater good. I see no benefit for anyone in hacking Bethesda, it's only delaying the awesome games to come.

 

[Duskflamer]

If they're such fans, why bother?

Given that this "attack" didn't do much in actual damage, I would say that the goal of this attack was to alert Bethesda to the problems with their security, and based on Bethesda's response ("These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.") they actually get the point.

If you're going to give what amounts to a friendly, if rude, reminder of security problems, would you rather it benefit a company you like? or one you hate?

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

The more public the hacking is the more pressure is put on the companies. It's easy to dismiss something if nobody else notices, but if all eyes are on you because of something that happened, you'd be a bit quicker in setting up defenses against future hacking.

Lulzsec may not be malicious but by being public there's a risk that some more malicious hackers could follow in their footsteps, and that's what spurs the companies to improve security. If it was just some private e-mail saying "Oh yea, we totally hacked your database lulz." do you think the company would treat it with the same level of urgency or seriousness?

 

[Pinstar]

First Nintendo, now Bethesda... so is Lulzsec's attacks going to start counting against a game's/company's Metacritic rating now?

 

[sheogoraththemad]

as long as this won't affect Bethesda or skyrim in a negative way I'm happy

 

[Goldeneye103X2]

That's bad. They're bad. It's not good.

It'd be funny if beesda announced a delay. Even if it was just one day, it would still be pretty funny. In fact, I hope Bethesda actually delay the game by one day just to piss these guys off.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

Am I the only one that thinks if these guys somehow delay the release of Skyrim because of this nonsense, people will come looking for them with axes??

 

[Argtee]

At least they didn't do anything major. (like mess with Skyrim!)

Seriously though, these guys need to stop. Some of the things they've done. (like the porn site thing) were kind of funny, but it's only a matter of time before they really fuck stuff up.

 

[lovest harding]

If they're such fans, why bother?

Given that this "attack" didn't do much in actual damage, I would say that the goal of this attack was to alert Bethesda to the problems with their security, and based on Bethesda's response ("These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.") they actually get the point.

If you're going to give what amounts to a friendly, if rude, reminder of security problems, would you rather it benefit a company you like? or one you hate?

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

The more public the hacking is the more pressure is put on the companies. It's easy to dismiss something if nobody else notices, but if all eyes are on you because of something that happened, you'd be a bit quicker in setting up defenses against future hacking.

Lulzsec may not be malicious but by being public there's a risk that some more malicious hackers could follow in their footsteps, and that's what spurs the companies to improve security. If it was just some private e-mail saying "Oh yea, we totally hacked your database lulz." do you think the company would treat it with the same level of urgency or seriousness?

I do. Why? Because of circumstances. I highly doubt a big company like Bethesda would take any chances after the PSN hacking. If I ran a company I certainly wouldn't.
They should work with the company instead of working against them. Choosing to take private information from customers makes the company look bad.

All it would have taken was one person who didn't agree to give the information back. Why take the damn risk of a harming a company in that way in order to help them?

And I repeat myself, I call bullshit on their ultimate goal to help.
All they do is bullshit. Hacking for fun is like playing Russian roulette. Someone in the end is going to get shot, and I hope it's the hackers rather than the customers of one of these companies.

EDIT: I could also say the same thing about shoplifting. I stole so they would know what was wrong with their store security. That doesn't make anything better and I will get punished. It's still not an appropriate way to help the store and it sounds like a scape goat. Instead of admitting I stole because I like to steal or that I wanted an item for free, I say that I just wanted to help.

 

[V8 Ninja]

So by stealing users' information, you're speeding up the production cycle of the company you stole the information from? Wow. I wish Lulzsec would actually try to take themselves seriously, then they would realize how FUCKING idiotic they are.

EDIT: I just realized that Lulzsec didn't actually leak the user info. I really need to read into things more carefully and stop being paranoid at every turn.