LulzSec hacks Nintendo, takes control of the FBI, and challenges NATO
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LulzSec stands poised to destroy the internet, all because they have some skill with code and think that the established rules for conduct on the internet do not apply to them, selfish brutes who think bullshit like this is funny. Anon may be a pack of questionable dicks, but at least they have restraint, LulzSec are like the kid from the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life" all that power, and none of the maturity to wield it properly
Because Sony has proven to be more than competent when it comes to security. Anonymous is attacking the Iranian Government while Lulsec attacks the US government. We're not really able to properly guage Anonymous at this point.Liudeius said:
... I'm starting to get scared. when I saw the title I thought it was a joke so far over the top it landed face-down in the next valley.
however this plays out, I don't think it'll be good.
either we've got a group of unstoppable hackers ruining shit for everyone just because they think it's funny, or we've got governments seriously cracking down on the internet.
their statement that they'll treat a cyber attack the same way as a kinetic attack shows they're completely unprepared for this kind of thing. a cyber attack is something totally different and when they go blundering through the web with guns blazing... no good will come of this.
however this plays out, I don't think it'll be good.
either we've got a group of unstoppable hackers ruining shit for everyone just because they think it's funny, or we've got governments seriously cracking down on the internet.
their statement that they'll treat a cyber attack the same way as a kinetic attack shows they're completely unprepared for this kind of thing. a cyber attack is something totally different and when they go blundering through the web with guns blazing... no good will come of this.
Anonymous still claims they didn't do the Sony attack (unless there is one I don't know about) and even then they would only need to use the least amount of skill to get the job done, there is no telling how good they actually areLiudeius said:
They claimed it was a SQL Injection. I'm still waiting for a security firm to make an official report on the exact damage caused, what Sony Picture's level of security was, and what method was used to obtain information.BGH122 said:
Anyway, the fact that they hacked Nintendo and Infragard Atlanta is definitely a testament. Maybe not Nintendo, but check the Infragard Atlanta Alliance out. (Link's in the first post.)
...Unless that wasn't sarcasm. Then...I apologize.
That's not exactly true. Hacking into government databases and stealing classified information (Or even just bringing a government site down) is technically espionage. Which people are executed for and countries have gone to war over.Floppertje said:
Treating cyber attacks as kinetic attacks actually shows that they understand the situation perfectly well...When it starts compromising national security, it stops being a game.
This really has to be said; for all the people hiding behind the bravado of saturday evening cop dramas, you don't seem to understand that you can't simply go kicking the doors in of people who don't even have a fix on yet. These people aren't stupid. It's not a simple matter of "let's run a traceroute" or "let's just find out who accessed the site and uploaded malicious protocols". These people know what they're doing, and if the FBI or any other security agency were to find one or two individuals responsible, they certainly wouldn't blast their head off with a gun. They'd hire them. Because these borderline-obsessed technically proficient people are exactly who organisations like the FBI need in order to build their next line of defence.Vanbael said:
Honestly, though, the chances of them catching anyone are slim. Very slim. Don't get your hopes up that there's going to be a major breakthrough. Just because a federal organisation is large, does not mean they have the upper hand. The digital war is a level playing field. All bets are off. It's not a matter of shadowing someone and busting an arms deal. It's a war of information.
I guess that's a good point, for all we know, LulzSec could also occasionally do things under the Anonymous title considering Anonymous is just about any hacker (or as Extra Credits mandates, any hacker that hacks for lulz and freedom).artanis_neravar said:
Does anyone remember reading the Terran prologue in the StarCraft Manual? About how the national governments started rounding up murderers, rapists, smugglers, and hackers put them all onto interstellar prison ships and launched them into the void? I'm pretty sure that this is how those events began.
Iceman thought he had nothing to fear from the FBI either. That is until the FBI manipulated his own followers into turning on him.Luthir Fontaine said:
Trust me, it might be sometime (months or even a couple of years) but the FBI will nail these guys. They will spend their lives looking over their shoulders from now on.
This. My very first thought when I read that they were attacking the FBI. They are going to get it eventually, and I hope it is a really great show.Luthir Fontaine said:
These Lulzsec people sound like they are kids to me, or at least very immature, I highly doubt that they will be able to resist bragging or making some mistake, it's only a matter of time before they screw up[footnote]My personal opinion[/footnote]Gralian said:
Interesting idea you have there I vote we do this with Lulzsec, except have it pull a Challenger, or maybe Apollo 1Vern5 said:
It is a fair playing field, but I do not thing the FBI is leaving any piece of information to chance.Gralian said:
But I do have to agree, this is a war of information. But as you see, people are pulling for the authorities to find these bastards, and I bet there are a few vigilantes combing for anything. And resources do matter no doubt, but the FBI will need something different and completely new to catch LulzSec. What it is? I don't know, but no criminal is the same. So, maybe they won't be found right away, but a target never grows old. It took 10 years to find Osama, it might take months to find these guys. I bet the athrorites will be waiting. The best bet that LulzSec has of surviving prosecution, quietly stop the attacks. There will be less provocation to the authorities, and they will ghost off of the FBI's radar. But they are branded as terrorists, and will always be as long as they keep up the attacks. If they didn't fuck with FBI, then this would be a different story. But, you know the rest of the story.
No, I meant that their initial SQL attack made it seem like they were novice, but clearly they most definitely aren't.Kopikatsu said:
I see little reason for them to lie about an SQL Injection. These guys are relatively new to blackhatting, most times some new group arrives it wants to pretend it pulled off the most ferocious hack that's ever existed, not downplay it to a weak database level unexpected query. Unless they're trying to tarnish Sony, I suppose.