Mac ads

[Nimbus]

First of all, my shitty WINDOWS computer fucked up( wish i had a mac now) and secondly, no i don't, but i know plenty of professionals who have worked in various studios for years, most of which will be running a mac pro setup, either with pro tools or logic software.

I assume that it was a PEBKAC error, right?

More like an I.D.10.T error.

Yeah, it could have been that, but from what he's telling us it was most likely a layer-8 issue of some sort.

 

[Bagaloo]

There not as bad as the new microsoft "i'm a pc" adverts.

I'm a pc, and I'm desperately trying to convince people I'm down with it

You can't exactly blame them for that, after the moronic bashing the Apple ads gave them.
Personally I find the adverts humerous, the blatant ignorance makes me chuckle.
I was once in my younger days almost swayed by macs, but my friend pointed out to me that PC's are infinetly better for gaming. That, and I went to an Apple Store to try one out, and I could not get used to the UI at all. Thats just personal taste, though.

I tend to side with PC's in the flame war, I'm sick of the outlandish snobbery that some people can carry about Macs. I have my qualms with Vista (that annoying administrator thing it throws at you whenever you try to do anything for a start), but its still the only OS for me.

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

The Mac commercials don't particularly bother me, but then again I'm part of the hipster artist crowd, using a Macbook Pro myself.

What I really don't like are the new Windows commercials.

You're a PC and you... Sell fish. Fascinating. Makes me want to buy one right now.

Either way, everyone picks a side, and in the end we're either satisfied with our choice or we move on to another one.

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

The Mac commercials don't particularly bother me, but then again I'm part of the hipster artist crowd, using a Macbook Pro myself.

What I really don't like are the new Windows commercials.

You're a PC and you... Sell fish. Fascinating. Makes me want to buy one right now.

Yeah, Microsoft's 90% market share is really lacking without one more non-conforming conformist hipster artist

Microsoft has already won; this sort of cultural marketing has nothing to do with trying to attract a small limp-wristed demographic which owns turtlenecks and can't hold a job. It's there to be funny and positive.

I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company. Like, I dunno, the specs of it all, whether or not I'll have to worry about viruses and anti-spyware programs clogging up the processor. Honestly, even if a guy with a beret, goatee, and a set of bongos showed up and said "I'm a PC", I still wouldn't have given a damn. Likewise, if a fisherman took the place of the cool artist stereotype man, I honestly wouldn't have cared, so long as the fisherman brought the same points across.

In short, the quirky good-natured atmosphere of the commercials isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is that their only selling point (apart from parental control, it seems) is "Hey, look at who all is using our computers! Isn't that great? You should buy one now!"

And even if I hated both commercials, I was raised on OS 9. I was born with a Safari in my hand.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

I think they're ace!!! I like how they poke fun at all of windows bad points and bigs up Mac's OS. In fairness, macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production, etc. Windows are optimized for office and games. Macs can do all a windows pc can do because of the dual OS software, but not vice versa. Therefore i think the ads are not only funny, but true. If a tad annoying. I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

Wow a non-hater
Thats good to see.
I'd like to see how many of these PC owners actually have used a mac instead of calling it retarded when the word Mac pops onto the screen.

I have, it was a reliable system, and if people want to spend their money on macs then that is fine, but that does not mean that Macintosh has to bash windows.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

I do hate the Mac ads, but Microsoft responded to them really well with their PC ad.

 

[Evilbunny]

Mac: Hey PC, what're you doing?
PC: Playing a game.
Mac: Oh, which one?
PC: Any.
Mac: Oh...

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

DO NOT ACTUALLY TYPE THE CONTENTS OF THE SPOILER INTO YOUR TERMINAL WINDOW!!!!!

The fact of the matter is that Macs are now a fad to any person in college who has used a PC all of their life. It doesn't matter if you say you think it is better than a PC or not, the reason you bought that computer was simply because it is 'hip' right now. Sure, you may like that it has no learning curve to it. hell, I'll agree with you on that point. What I would love to do is have one of these Mac users I referred to above open Terminal and type in four simple keystrokes:

Spoiler: SEE BELOW BEFORE VIEWING SPOILER!!!!

rm *

That would solve a whole lot in my opinion.

Spoiler: THIS!!! READ THIS BEFORE YOU VIEW THE OTHER SPOILER!!!!!!!!

(In regard to above spoiler; to all mac users who have no clue as to the basic working of the Unix operating system; DO NOT DO THIS!!! It will completely wipe everything off of your computer rendering it completely useless! Please, DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!)

I warned you!!! I did!!

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

 

[Gxas]

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

It stands for "remove *". The * is basically a wildcard. It stands for anything. (Java, here goes) Say you wanted to import a java utility into your program code but found out you needed more than one. Instead of typing "import java.util.(whatever utility)" and the other utilities you wanted to import, you'd simply put "import java.util.*" and import all of the utilities at once. So saying "remove *" you will remove each and every file/program/etc on your machine with no real way of recovering it all because Unix will pretty much be inoperable. That's the way my Comp. Sci. prof. put it at least. I haven't seen it in action, but he has and I trust him.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

rm*, is that for "reset memory"?

It stands for "remove *". The * is basically a wildcard. It stands for anything. (Java, here goes) Say you wanted to import a java utility into your program code but found out you needed more than one. Instead of typing "import java.util.(whatever utility)" and the other utilities you wanted to import, you'd simply put "import java.util.*" and import all of the utilities at once. So saying "remove *" you will remove each and every file/program/etc on your machine with no real way of recovering it all because Unix will pretty much be inoperable. That's the way my Comp. Sci. prof. put it at least. I haven't seen it in action, but he has and I trust him.

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

 

[Aumichan]

Nothing worse than ads by either, mac, at&t, Lottery. ugh

 

[Gxas]

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

Yes. The perfect practical joke for a 'hip mac user' with tons of money.

 

[runtheplacered]

I think they're ace!!! I like how they poke fun at all of windows bad points and bigs up Mac's OS. In fairness, macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production, etc. Windows are optimized for office and games. Macs can do all a windows pc can do because of the dual OS software, but not vice versa. Therefore i think the ads are not only funny, but true. If a tad annoying. I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

You know what's a tad annoying?

People who don't know what they're talking about and constantly saying "macs are better for 'creative' things such as music and video production.'"

That is a tad annoying.

Well why do most professionals in the music and video production professions use macs?
Hmmm... must be coincidential

Actually, it is coincidental. You can do everything you want in the "Creative" department on a PC perfectly fine. Mac's are generally "out of the box" setup and ready to go, and most musicians aren't computer savvy enough or don't want to go through the trouble of building their own rigs. Some also fear virus's or are simply following a trend. But to say that a Mac is better for "Creative" things is just not true.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

Ok, so its a way of software-frying a mac?

Yes. The perfect practical joke for a 'hip mac user' with tons of money.

I need to remember this. It might come in handy later.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Calling the ads pompous is like calling Asia big. It's an epic understatement.

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

I really hope someone else can see the irony here.

Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.

Okay, everyone else is doing it. That's nice. Why is everyone doing it?

For someone who says they were born with Safari in their hand, you don't know a lot about Mac OS X.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2242

No, I knew about that, but here's the thing: Damn near everyone uses Windows. Why would you take the time to write a virus for a system that few of us use? Secondly, the article suggests anti-spyware not to protect against pre-existing viruses, but to help protect against anything that might be made in the future,

...making the whole virus writing process more difficult.

Moreover, though it's a good idea to run several antivirus programs, it's not next to mandatory as with the predicament for Windows. And third, you're missing the point of what I was trying to say in my first post.

Outside of personal preference, what valid points has Apple's advertising made to you?

The fact that it has pretty much anything you'd need for editing and artwork pre-installed on the mac (including a built-in camera); that it doesn't freeze nearly as often as Windows (or at all, in my case); the whole business with the viruses; that I can run either OS on a Mac, freeing up entertainment choices; that it runs Microsoft Office (though I use NeoOffice anyway). Just to name a few. Again, however, missing the point.

You're not realizing that Microsoft isn't here to try and win the OS competition.

They already have.

You seem to be barking up the wrong tree here. I'm not trying to say which side is better, or who is trying to do what to who. I'm just saying that I like Mac's to-the-point "Look what I can do" style of advertising better than to Microsoft's "We're all PCs" advert. I'm not trying to convert anyone here, and I really wasn't going into superiorities of either side in my first post anyway. Both sides have pros and cons, and it's just a matter of choice. Just because someone doesn't agree on the quality of advertising doesn't mean they're trying to burn down the other side's rose garden.

I don't give a damn about the OS competition. I just like the way Mac makes their commercials more, and part of that is from trained bias. The commercial isn't influencing my opinion on which one to buy, and it's not making me laud/loathe one side or another. I'm just stating an opinion on your original subject.

Sheesh, not even here can someone make a contrary statement without getting a cattle prod shoved up their arse.

 

[Gxas]

I really hope someone else can see the irony here.

Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.

*Raises hand* OOH OOH!!! I KNOW!!! PICK ME!!!!

I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company.

Refer to my previous post as to why this is ironic. If you're too lazy to go back and look (like you're maybe too lazy to take time to learn to use a computer) I'll spell it out.

MACS ARE A FAD!!! People (and by people, I mean college kids who have never used one in their lives who bought one as their laptop) only buy Macs because these ads make them cool. The advertisements work extremely well, considering their purpose: To make PCs seem uncool. Macs are 'whats in' right now.

Better?

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

I really hope someone else can see the irony here.

Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.

*Raises hand* OOH OOH!!! I KNOW!!! PICK ME!!!!

I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company.

Refer to my previous post as to why this is ironic. If you're too lazy to go back and look (like you're maybe too lazy to take time to learn to use a computer) I'll spell it out.

MACS ARE A FAD!!! People (and by people, I mean college kids who have never used one in their lives who bought one as their laptop) only buy Macs because these ads make them cool. The advertisements work extremely well to considering their purpose: To make PCs seem uncool. Macs are 'whats in' right now.

Better?

*points to the bottom part of previous post, sips tea, ruffles newspaper and walks away*

Try to, you know, read the entire post before you go blathering on about things, alright? Alright.

Oh, and I'm not lazy enough to not learn how to use a computer. Unless, you know, my scratch-built gaming computer was poofed into existence by fairies.

 

[Gxas]

Try to, you know, read the entire post before you go blathering on about things, alright? Alright.

Do it everytime. The problem is that the end your last post has nothing to do with why Macs aren't a fad and you don't see the irony in your post. I'll quote and address each part of the post I plan on responding to, thank you very much.

, and I'm not lazy enough to not learn how to use a computer. Unless, you know, my scratch-built gaming computer was poofed into existence by fairies.

Sorry, the camera I have in your house stopped working some time ago so I haven't been able to keep up with your personal life and what you've built for a while now. I'll be sure to update it next time I'm nearby.

 

[MorsePacific]

I honestly can't stand Mac ads, or anything Apple advertises in general. Apple sells mainly to consumers who are looking for style over quality. "Oh look, our monitor and computer is in ONE CASE! Isn't that neat?!" No, it's a gimmick. Ever tried upgrading a Mac? Have fun getting around that screen, buddy.

Sure, Macs aren't terrible, they're just not as good as they're made out to be, and they do have their advantages (less viruses, slightly more stable OS). But really, I'm out to get the best out of my system, and I'm simply not going to be doing anything crazy with a Mac. The Mac commercials exaggerate Windows' faults above and beyond what they actually are. Hell, the only problem I've encountered on my Vista machine is a slight issue with compatibility, that can easily be solved by changing one property of the program.

P.S. iPods aren't cool, end of story. It's a hard drive with music playing software and a fancy name slapped on. Any other MP3 player on Earth does the same damn thing, so why spend bundles of money on a name?