Make the perfect Final Fantasy game by...

[darklinkjf]

final fantasy tactics is already my perfect FF game XD

Fk yeah, Quoted for the win.
Why can't we have a proper Sequel to this amazing game?

And no Tactics Advanced is like the reject adopted child to final fantasy.

It's fun sure, but it differs so much compared to Tactics and I refuse to accept it.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Bring back the focus on the characters. Give me entire side quests that have nothing to do with the main story, but give you insight into your party. Give me characters that are unique and each one has their own personality and story, not a carbon copy or an ideal made flesh. VII, VIII, X, and to a lesser extent IX did this very well.

Side quests. People keep saying XII had side quests. Where were these quests? All I found was the hunting side quest. I want a quest where you go off and your reward is a new party member. You go explore an island that someone mentions in passing, then you go back and explore it AGAIN because something unlocked. You go through all this crazy planning to find out the girl in the library likes Zell. Give me sidequests that are outside of the main story, but still affect the world.

Yeah, play FFXII again, there are many quests like that wherer they mention something about a place you've been to before earlier, you go back and an entirely new area opens up. You'd either find a new Esper after searching the new area, new rare monsters, rare equipment etc.. One example is the huge crystal you can go into, that place has WAAAAAAAAAY more floors then you explore on first time there. I literally got lost on floors with enemies with 99999 health and had to turn off the system and reload lol. Many explored places have another openening that most likely will lead to a hidden Esper.

 

[ramboondiea]

id like a setting thats a cross between 12 and 6, steampunk-fantasy. id like the combat from 12 but i would have liked a little more variety, so a quasi job system, but nt as restricting as past versions. 13 visuals are a must, and the soundtrack mixed with a little of 12's.

a better variety of weapons would also be interesting, back in 6 you could have a chainsaw for gods sake, i spent all of 12 with swords and spears

 

[Danial]

FFIX.

That is all.

 

[SwimmingRock]

Make NEW characters not just throw a dart at a board with details.
Throw dart, Female.
Throw dart at job... Soldier.
Throw dart again for weapon, Gun blade.
Throw dart again personality. Loner.

And we shall call her "Lightning."

I don't think they ever throw a dart for the personality. Loner is just the default unless they can come up with something interesting, which they usually don't bother doing.

OT: "Make the perfect Final Fantasy game by..." never ever making a Vanille-like character ever again ever in any game ever made by anybody ever.

Okay, serious answer. I miss Materia. I also thought the Sphere Grid was better than the Crystarium, because it allowed for more customization and was less linear. As for the characters, bring back Auron and Zack and make Seifer playable. That's your party right there. Throw in a good story, bitching music (the Black Mages cover of the FF7 boss battle theme is still the best combat song ever) and minimize the whining. Oh, and bring back Cid from FF13, but this time make him important rather than a throwaway plot device. He seemed to have so much potential, but instead we listened to Hope whine about whatever... again.

Oh, and I really liked the weapons system from FF10. Constantly buying new weapons is pointless and grindy. Just allow us to make our weapons better. Possibly as rewards for sidequests or something. Seriously, give me a genuine reason to care about the people who want me to do their little quests other than just money or ham-fisted sentimentality.

 

[SwimmingRock]

OT: "Make the perfect Final Fantasy game by..." never ever making a Vanille-like character ever again ever in any game ever made by anybody ever.

But I like Vanille!

I'm sorry, but you must be purged. It's your civic duty. Know that you serve the greater good in cooperating.

Kidding aside, why? Seriously, why? Her voice is astonishingly similar to nails on a chalkboard, she's bland and pointless as a character, has nothing to contribute to the story (seriously, Fang was the only one between the two who was in any way relevant to anything) and she sucks in combat. I can't find a single redeeming quality in anything she does. Explain to me how you can not hate her.

 

[Plinglebob]

FFVII - Chocobo Racing/Breeding. The chocobo breeding was a nice distraction and While Materia was a nice system, there are other combat & levelling systems I prefer and everything else in that game has since been bettered by its sequals.

FFVIII - GF Summons & Junctions and Music. VIII's music is definitely my favourite of the series and bringing back Mr Uematsu to do something similar would be brilliant. While I wasn't a fan of Junction on anything other then a powergaming level, the idea of levelling and boosting your GFs and them giving you additional bonuses is a great idea that needs to be explored again.

FFIX - Art Style and Vivi. With the continual push for games to appear more adult and mature, a more cartoony look would be a nice change of pace and the FMVs in IX shows that the charactured artstyle using modern graphics would work well. Also, everything better with Vivi!

FFX - Combat, Limit Breaks, Narrative Style & side quests. As someone who has always enjoyed the short term planning required in turn based combat, I really enjoyed X's queue system. I also enjoyed the Limit system and how you could set it to increase through factors other then just being hit. I've chosen Narrative Style from X as I think it got the best balance between a "Save the World" epic story and individual character growth. It wasn't perfect, but damn it was close. X also had the most variety in terms of side quests with the monster hunting, the monster ranch, and Al Behd language and the ultimate weapons.

FFX-2 (its an FF game Dammit!) - Job system. While its presentation was very very silly, I really liked both the implimentation and the variety of the jobs available in X-2. It meant you could shift roles at a moments notice if required and also gave me lots of lovely lovely grinding.

FFXII - Nothing. Sorry, but there's nothing in XII that I would want to carry over.

FFXIII - Character depth, Job limits and Graphic fidelity. XIII had (in my opinion) some of the best characters in any FF game. They all felt beleivable with interesting back stories and good motivations for what they were doing. Sadly the narrative wasn't as strong as in previous games so it sometimes felt a bit aimless. Combine the character depth with X's narrative style and you're onto a winner. I liked the idea in XIII that while everyone could do any role, some were severely limited in what they could do and people gaining different skills in a role at different times. Combine this with the Variety X-2 offered in its Job system and it would be perfect. Also, shiney and oh so pretty!

 

[YouBecame]

FF6's characters (incl villains)
FF10's super enemies (monster arena please!)
FF10's battle system
FF7's magic system
FF8's world & story
FF9's music & score, and writing style (I liked the sense of humour!)

That would do me fine =)

 

[Klumpfot]

One simple thing: an interesting world map. I might have been able to forgive the overall horrible artistic design, plot and voice acting of FFX (the latest non-MMO FF I played) if it had a world map that was fun to explore.

 

[GavmatexD]

a remake of FF7 would do me fine

 

[Plinglebob]

OT: "Make the perfect Final Fantasy game by..." never ever making a Vanille-like character ever again ever in any game ever made by anybody ever.

But I like Vanille!

I'm sorry, but you must be purged. It's your civic duty. Know that you serve the greater good in cooperating.

Kidding aside, why? Seriously, why? Her voice is astonishingly similar to nails on a chalkboard, she's bland and pointless as a character, has nothing to contribute to the story (seriously, Fang was the only one between the two who was in any way relevant to anything) and she sucks in combat. I can't find a single redeeming quality in anything she does. Explain to me how you can not hate her.

As another member of the Vanille fanbase, I thought I'd come in and defend her.

On an in game level, she's annoying because she's constantly trying to lighten the mood because she's been through it before. Her most telling point in the game is when she and Sahz are going to sleep. At first she's upbeat, telling Sazh to stay on his side of the line etc. However, when he goes to sleep, she becomes scared and lonely and moves next to Sazh for comfort. Before the start of the game she was a L'Cie and being one forced her to watch her friend destroy the world. In the game, she see the same thing happening with more people. She's being jolly to try and keep everyone else jolly and away from the fact that they will inevitebly die.

On a Meta-level. She's annoying becuase she's supposed to be over the top. Each character in XIII is a deconstruction on the traditional cliches. Sazh is introduced as a stereotypical "Black Guy", Snow does things you would normally do in a computer game and gets disasterous results, Hope gives you the usual child star and shows you how he would really act and Fang shows what happens when the amnesiac hero gets found by the wrong people/no people at all. With Vanille, she's initially supposed to be the character who's always cheerful no matter what and then looks into why.

 

[RogerKevin]

Bring back the focus on the characters. Give me entire side quests that have nothing to do with the main story, but give you insight into your party. Give me characters that are unique and each one has their own personality and story, not a carbon copy or an ideal made flesh. VII, VIII, X, and to a lesser extent IX did this very well.

Side quests. People keep saying XII had side quests. Where were these quests? All I found was the hunting side quest. I want a quest where you go off and your reward is a new party member. You go explore an island that someone mentions in passing, then you go back and explore it AGAIN because something unlocked. You go through all this crazy planning to find out the girl in the library likes Zell. Give me sidequests that are outside of the main story, but still affect the world.

I don't think you can have a bigger focus on the characters then XIII, for a significant portion of the game the only objective the party had was getting Hope to talk to his dad. Character interaction is all that game had.

 

[SamElliot'sMustache]

The thing I missed most about the series was the open world map that you could explore by land, sea, or air, which we haven't had since IX. XII came close, but I want to pilot an airship damn it, not select a location on a menu. Bring that sense of exploration back (with a gradual broadening of the world, until by the end you can go anywhere you want), and that could be the start of something good.

So, I guess what I'm saying is: XII's open-world with X/XIII's combat (XIII really was just a glitzed up version of X, minus the character-swapping, which they should bring back), and exploration from I-IX. Oh, and no more "buy increasingly powerful swords" to fight enemies with. Bullshit, I shouldn't have to choose between a dozen or so swords and figure out which one I should take for the next ten minutes of fighting before it becomes obsolete and I have to get another sword. However, if they want to do the license system from XII, and have everyone be able to use whatever weapons you want (though with some characters having different affinities), that would be fine. The story and setting don't matter, just as long as the stories good (no wasting of five hours before getting to anything resembling a point, like XIII), and I can explore the world (though I would hope it's not too gaudy).

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

Just rerelease FFXII. Bingo bango.

 

[SwimmingRock]

-snip-

As another member of the Vanille fanbase, I thought I'd come in and defend her.

On an in game level, she's annoying because she's constantly trying to lighten the mood because she's been through it before. Her most telling point in the game is when she and Sahz are going to sleep. At first she's upbeat, telling Sazh to stay on his side of the line etc. However, when he goes to sleep, she becomes scared and lonely and moves next to Sazh for comfort. Before the start of the game she was a L'Cie and being one forced her to watch her friend destroy the world. In the game, she see the same thing happening with more people. She's being jolly to try and keep everyone else jolly and away from the fact that they will inevitebly die.

On a Meta-level. She's annoying becuase she's supposed to be over the top. Each character in XIII is a deconstruction on the traditional cliches. Sazh is introduced as a stereotypical "Black Guy", Snow does things you would normally do in a computer game and gets disasterous results, Hope gives you the usual child star and shows you how he would really act and Fang shows what happens when the amnesiac hero gets found by the wrong people/no people at all. With Vanille, she's initially supposed to be the character who's always cheerful no matter what and then looks into why.

See, you claim you're defending Vanille, but both your paragraphs start with "she's annoying". I hope you understand I'm not trying to diss people who like Vanille, but I just seriously don't understand why you would, if you agree she's annoying. Also, you point out that she more or less knows what's going to happen. Yet she does nothing about it for almost the entire game. That just makes her a pointless character and wasted story potential in my eyes.

Again, I have nothing against people who like Vanille. I just genuinely cannot comprehend how your reaction to her could in any way be positive and would still like an explanation. Maybe I would even dislike the game less if somebody could explain this to me.

 

[ABLb0y]

Basically, remake Final Fantasy 13, but heres a thought, instead of having a never before mentioned character come in and steal the spotlight, how about just not having Vang? (Or whatever her name is)

No offence to people who like Vang.

Oh, and not having to wait until, like, chapter ten to change the party leader.

 

[DracoSuave]

OT: "Make the perfect Final Fantasy game by..." never ever making a Vanille-like character ever again ever in any game ever made by anybody ever.

But I like Vanille!

I'm sorry, but you must be purged. It's your civic duty. Know that you serve the greater good in cooperating.

Kidding aside, why? Seriously, why? Her voice is astonishingly similar to nails on a chalkboard, she's bland and pointless as a character, has nothing to contribute to the story (seriously, Fang was the only one between the two who was in any way relevant to anything) and she sucks in combat. I can't find a single redeeming quality in anything she does. Explain to me how you can not hate her.

As another member of the Vanille fanbase, I thought I'd come in and defend her.

The thing to understand about Vanille is not that she is perky and cheerful. It's that she's LYING. She isn't really happy. She is crushed by the guilt of what she has down and she's trying to AVOID it by being perky and cheerful.

EVERYTHING is her fault and she knows it. She watched Fang become Ragnarok and destroy a pretty decent chunk of Cocoon to protect her... and she remembers and Fang did not. So she lies to protect Fang from the knowledge that she is literally THE mass murderer that the ENTIRETY of Cocoon is afraid of. Remember the Pompa Sancta performance in Nautillus? Sazh is watching it like a pretty show... Vanille knows it for what it is... she was there to witness it first hand. Her actions trigger the fal'Cie Kujata to brand Dajh forcing Sazh to go to the Vestige to fulfill what he thinks is Dajh's focus. She also is directly responsible for Serah getting branded, which causes the Purge that got Hope's mother killed, and Snow and Lightning on a fool's errand to destroy Anima to try to do -something- to save Serah.

And the entire time... she knows it. She's a l'Cie from the moment she's in your party, and a lot of her 'perkyness' comes off as awkward and shifty because it IS awkward and it IS shifty. The game even reveals it slowly, and subtly. She's got a third ATB before Anima 'brands' the party. She's never actually branded in that cutscene at all! It's the little things.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Chrono Trigger's Music
Chrono Trigger's Gameplay
Chrono Trigger's Story
Chrono Trigger's Art style
Change the name to Chrono Trigger

Just sayin'

Most excellent suggestions, but it's very unlikely a new Chrono game will ever see the light of day.

Still, we can always dream.

 

[Plinglebob]

-snip-

See, you claim you're defending Vanille, but both your paragraphs start with "she's annoying". I hope you understand I'm not trying to diss people who like Vanille, but I just seriously don't understand why you would, if you agree she's annoying. Also, you point out that she more or less knows what's going to happen. Yet she does nothing about it for almost the entire game. That just makes her a pointless character and wasted story potential in my eyes.

Again, I have nothing against people who like Vanille. I just genuinely cannot comprehend how your reaction to her could in any way be positive and would still like an explanation. Maybe I would even dislike the game less if somebody could explain this to me.

Ok, I probably should have started them as "She could be annoying" as personally I don't find it annoying at all. Personally, I found all the characters to be annoying when we first meet them but as the story goes on and they become more rounded, they all become more likable and Vanille also benifits from this. Also, playing the game knowing why she's like that makes her a much more sumpathetic character and easier to like. Definitely a game where the 2nd play thorugh is better then the 1st.

The thing to understand about Vanille is not that she is perky and cheerful. It's that she's LYING. She isn't really happy. She is crushed by the guilt of what she has down and she's trying to AVOID it by being perky and cheerful.

EVERYTHING is her fault and she knows it. She watched Fang become Ragnarok and destroy a pretty decent chunk of Cocoon to protect her... and she remembers and Fang did not. So she lies to protect Fang from the knowledge that she is literally THE mass murderer that the ENTIRETY of Cocoon is afraid of. Her actions trigger the fal'Cie Kujata to brand Dajh forcing Sazh to go to the Vestige to fulfill what he thinks is Dajh's focus. She also is directly responsible for Serah getting branded, which causes the Purge that got Hope's mother killed, and Snow and Lightning on a fool's errand to destroy Anima to try to do -something- to save Serah.

And the entire time... she knows it. She's a l'Cie from the moment she's in your party, and a lot of her 'perkyness' comes off as awkward and shifty because it IS awkward and it IS shifty.

Don't you just hate it when someone puts your point across more eloquently then you ever could?

 

[SwimmingRock]

The thing to understand about Vanille is not that she is perky and cheerful. It's that she's LYING. She isn't really happy. She is crushed by the guilt of what she has down and she's trying to AVOID it by being perky and cheerful.

EVERYTHING is her fault and she knows it. She watched Fang become Ragnarok and destroy a pretty decent chunk of Cocoon to protect her... and she remembers and Fang did not. So she lies to protect Fang from the knowledge that she is literally THE mass murderer that the ENTIRETY of Cocoon is afraid of. Her actions trigger the fal'Cie Kujata to brand Dajh forcing Sazh to go to the Vestige to fulfill what he thinks is Dajh's focus. She also is directly responsible for Serah getting branded, which causes the Purge that got Hope's mother killed, and Snow and Lightning on a fool's errand to destroy Anima to try to do -something- to save Serah.

And the entire time... she knows it. She's a l'Cie from the moment she's in your party, and a lot of her 'perkyness' comes off as awkward and shifty because it IS awkward and it IS shifty.

Don't you just hate it when someone puts your point across more eloquently then you ever could?

Okay, I'm just going to write Vanille off as one of those things that's entirely a matter of personal taste/likes. I'm assuming that to you that whole explanation translates into character depth and interesting backstory. To me it just makes her sound like a liar and a coward, which I hate in videogames as much as in real life. Maybe I just let her voice, which I find exceptionally annoying, colour my perception of the character too much; making me blind to whatever positives she may possess. How about we just agree to disagree?