There's certainly military use for it, in fact big projects are working in these area for the funding alone. However, the uses are not what you might imagine, they don't work on hidden gatling guns in arms. The primary use of "augmentations" as of now is to support already existing structures using partial exoskeletons (making it possible to carry a lot of weight over long distances without developing fatigue), full replacements are currently still trying to catch up with the body's very own standards.ZombieDeadNoMore said:I wouldn't be surprised if the American military is already conducting experiments for these sythetic limbs and how to combine them with weapons for future combat efficiency.
So "Might makes Right" huh? The tagline of every dictator and tyrant. I don't get that second sentence though, "if someone has superior vision how is thinking they are superior delusional?" Other then the fact that it is merely an advantage rather than a measure of worth would be the response. Well here is to hoping that this technology is used responsibly.ReiverCorrupter said:Whatever you say, Leon Kass. If someone has superior vision, then how is thinking that they superior vision delusional? It's an advantage. If you're talking about moral superiority... who cares? Rights aren't some metaphysical substance that pervades the universe and prevents people from doing things. They're just something we psychotic primates have made up in order for our societies to function more efficiently. I guess if you want to feel morally superior while you're being crushed that's your prerogative. I'd rather do the crushing personally.PrinceofPersia said:And therein lies the problem with augmentation, whether mechanical or genetic. It gives you an incorrect feeling of superiority.thethingthatlurks said:I'm pretty sure you'd die in that attack, along with everybody else in the blast radius who happens to be exposed to the atmosphere. Sooo...let's assume we both live. I get to have my awesome vision, and you...get to be food? idk, what would you inferior unaugmented humans do in the post-apocalyptic world? Aside from, you know, being hunted for sport...
a Scottish company (yay) Touch Bionics has made the i-Arm (if i remember correctly), which is the forearm. this field of research is advancing quite well.ssManae said:Was wondering when this was going to pop up. Some exciting stuff happening in the prosthetic field. Once they finish getting the contact probes to stick to the brain (they slide off after a bit at the moment...) we might get to see entire arms like this.
You guys sure come up with a lot of these. Do you read some sort of a manual, perhaps a handbook of some sort? I'd try to think of more, but you guys seem to have a handle on these. I'd find some sort of an idiom for how well you know your puns, but I can't think of one.Canadish said:And the gauntlet is thrown.HankMan said:I don't know, you seem to have a good grasp on the concept, but any more and the gloves are coming off!Canadish said:I'm clutching at straws here. I guess I must be losing my touch.HankMan said:I have to say I don't find your request opposableCanadish said:Oh snap, I missed that one! You really nailed me.HankMan said:Truly we are living in the digital age.Canadish said:I agree. Science sure is handy. I give those doctors the thumbs up! I just wish I had a grasp on how it all works.HankMan said:It just goes to show what science is capable of when we really knuckle down.
*facepalm*
You'll have to give me a helping hand next time.
Maybe you could point me in the right direction?
I warn ye, we're already snatching each others puns here.
Pun relating to handsMegacherv said:I...erm...hands...Canadish said:I'm clutching at straws here. I guess I must be losing my touch.HankMan said:I have to say I don't find your request opposableCanadish said:Oh snap, I missed that one! You really nailed me.HankMan said:Truly we are living in the digital age.Canadish said:I agree. Science sure is handy. I give those doctors the thumbs up! I just wish I had a grasp on how it all works.HankMan said:It just goes to show what science is capable of when we really knuckle down.
*facepalm*
You'll have to give me a helping hand next time.
Maybe you could point me in the right direction?
Yeah, that'll do...
You know maybe I have no morality. But the day I can get a shiny titanium arm that is as/more mobile, functional, strong (much stronger), and allows me to feel things I would do it. I mean what are the cons there (the shiny titanium bit is personal preference, I never understood the complaints in fullmetal alchemist). And my arm works perfectly at the moment.Ekonk said:That thing looks like a Deus Ex mechanical augmentation.
This excites me and scares me greatly.
My point wasn't that "might makes right." My point was that rights are constructed by human beings and have no real power beside the power that we give them by believing in them. It's a practical point: if society breaks down then anything goes, it doesn't matter if it's 'right' or not. In the apocalyptic scenario no talk about morality makes any sense.PrinceofPersia said:So "Might makes Right" huh? The tagline of every dictator and tyrant. I don't get that second sentence though, "if someone has superior vision how is thinking they are superior delusional?" Other then the fact that it is merely an advantage rather than a measure of worth would be the response. Well here is to hoping that this technology is used responsibly.ReiverCorrupter said:Whatever you say, Leon Kass. If someone has superior vision, then how is thinking that they superior vision delusional? It's an advantage. If you're talking about moral superiority... who cares? Rights aren't some metaphysical substance that pervades the universe and prevents people from doing things. They're just something we psychotic primates have made up in order for our societies to function more efficiently. I guess if you want to feel morally superior while you're being crushed that's your prerogative. I'd rather do the crushing personally.PrinceofPersia said:And therein lies the problem with augmentation, whether mechanical or genetic. It gives you an incorrect feeling of superiority.thethingthatlurks said:I'm pretty sure you'd die in that attack, along with everybody else in the blast radius who happens to be exposed to the atmosphere. Sooo...let's assume we both live. I get to have my awesome vision, and you...get to be food? idk, what would you inferior unaugmented humans do in the post-apocalyptic world? Aside from, you know, being hunted for sport...
It's sociological evolution. It's no longer the physical structure of our bodies that determines our success, but the sociological institutions we form. Thus the selective pressures act on our institutions instead of us.xXGeckoXx said:You know maybe I have no morality. But the day I can get a shiny titanium arm that is as/more mobile, functional, strong (much stronger), and allows me to feel things I would do it. I mean what are the cons there (the shiny titanium bit is personal preference, I never understood the complaints in fullmetal alchemist). And my arm works perfectly at the moment.Ekonk said:That thing looks like a Deus Ex mechanical augmentation.
This excites me and scares me greatly.
And if I could get eyes that worked better than mine there would be no questions. None.
An interesting theory in science now is that our evolution is no longer boilogical and that the evolutionary level of our species is now defined mostly by how technologically advanced we become. So if our technology augments and improves our biology with no drawbacks it is sill to object.
what did the nailed part have to do with hands?Megacherv said:I...erm...hands...Canadish said:I'm clutching at straws here. I guess I must be losing my touch.HankMan said:I have to say I don't find your request opposableCanadish said:Oh snap, I missed that one! You really nailed me.HankMan said:Truly we are living in the digital age.Canadish said:I agree. Science sure is handy. I give those doctors the thumbs up! I just wish I had a grasp on how it all works.HankMan said:It just goes to show what science is capable of when we really knuckle down.
*facepalm*
You'll have to give me a helping hand next time.
Maybe you could point me in the right direction?
Yeah, that'll do...
Guys come on now, this is really getting out of handNecromancer Jim said:Pun relating to handsMegacherv said:I...erm...hands...Canadish said:I'm clutching at straws here. I guess I must be losing my touch.HankMan said:I have to say I don't find your request opposableCanadish said:Oh snap, I missed that one! You really nailed me.HankMan said:Truly we are living in the digital age.Canadish said:I agree. Science sure is handy. I give those doctors the thumbs up! I just wish I had a grasp on how it all works.HankMan said:It just goes to show what science is capable of when we really knuckle down.
*facepalm*
You'll have to give me a helping hand next time.
Maybe you could point me in the right direction?
Yeah, that'll do...
But this man will be the first cyborg. He will be a symbol of hope to all cyborgs when the war inevitably begins.
Don't knuckle under. They'll be under your thumb if you're willing to wrist it all.DEATHROAD said:Guys come on now, this is really getting out of handNecromancer Jim said:Pun relating to handsMegacherv said:I...erm...hands...Canadish said:I'm clutching at straws here. I guess I must be losing my touch.HankMan said:I have to say I don't find your request opposableCanadish said:Oh snap, I missed that one! You really nailed me.HankMan said:Truly we are living in the digital age.Canadish said:I agree. Science sure is handy. I give those doctors the thumbs up! I just wish I had a grasp on how it all works.HankMan said:It just goes to show what science is capable of when we really knuckle down.
*facepalm*
You'll have to give me a helping hand next time.
Maybe you could point me in the right direction?
Yeah, that'll do...
But this man will be the first cyborg. He will be a symbol of hope to all cyborgs when the war inevitably begins.